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Even if the assistant cap doesn’t really solve the problem population is causing I still really like it. My only real problem with it is when it gets down to the point where the essential jobs are taken and it’s either play psychologist or botanist or something you have no interest in or don’t know ...

Whats the realistic end goal for people who want this to be a code solution?

Make it so there's no actual shuttle on the station z-level, you have like pods or something that let you move between the shuttle and space. There's always going to be way more crewmembers than there are nukies, there ...

1. Bombing antags in high traffic areas(hallways medbay etc) should be cracked harder upon even if its war ops 10 crewmembers for 1 nukie isn't a worthy trade, neither is just a nukie but medbay is a hole.

Already sort of policy, if this isn't being enforced then make an admin complaint.

Use ...

What are the valid reasons that a security officer would be excused to subject you to being hit by the tram? And to avoid focusing too narrowly on the tram as a factor in this let me rephrase;

What are the valid reasons for a security officer to roll the dice on you being delimbed, possibly ...

There's nothing special about the tram to demand special policy. If security has a valid reason to inflict the penalty of being hit by it on you then there's no reason why they can't use it. If they don't have a valid reason then there's no reason why they can use it. The tram itself is utterly ...

The main points of an appeal are to:

Make sure admins aren't going against what is expected of them
Provide players with an opportunity to speak with the banning admin and hopefully reach an understanding
Provide players with an opportunity to appeal to headmins for a review of the decision ...

As I’ve mentioned before, I think that mindset is toxic as fuck and the server as a whole is worse off for it. Saying that mechanically speaking it doesn’t matter (which is also just objectively false, it makes complete sense that command wants the cockpit secure for a variety of reasons such as not ...

Regardless if weather or not its a non antagonist or an antagonist doing it, if you're trying to stop a combat mech (or anything, for that matter) through violent means, its entirely reasonable to expect the subject to respond violently as well.

Overall you aren't allowed to do stuff that you ...

I was not going to make this appeal, but the admin who banned me convinced me to. Please help me bring an end to their tyrannical reign.

I shall rule for a thousand lifetimes, and the masses shall know no peace while I still draw breath

Ill admit it. Sometimes, I just want to strap on my ...

have it apply the drowning effect if you aren't a fishperson

Am I able to access the logs as well or do I have to argue from the position of what is deigned to be presented? It doesn't feel like a strong position for me.

Admins have access to raw logs which have sensitive information, hence why only admins have access to them, and the publicly available ...

I'm sorry you're so lacking in taste that you were unable to appreciate the SPIDER JOCKEY and AETHER reveals because of this one decision. Take issue with Herobine all you want, let's see how critical you are of it when the third movie has a Jack Black VS Jack Black fight scene.

I've been thinking about this for a while and I don't really see a good way to change the antagonist to fix it, so might as well just see about thoughts on removal. I think spies sort of run into the problem progtot has where it encourages constant chasing of objectives over trying to do anything ...

The sins of the previous term must be corrected. They were supposed to enable rainbow assistants, and then this term would be the one to disable them once again. We must endure three consecutive terms of grey assistants to restore order, and allow the next term to inherit a config in which they can ...

What's the purpose of this policy thread? I feel like it's just asking about lore stuff which isn't really the realm of policy. We have common core if you want to make lore changes to accommodate a change, and it's not like it'd be some monumental change to justify

Initial cargo checkpoint break in (Attack)
[2025-03-28 00:52:21.921] ATTACK: ronuro/(Emet Ali) (mob_3519) attacked [Security Post - Cargo] with the chainsaw (Wielded) (Cargo Bay (166,170,2))
[2025-03-28 00:52:22.746] ATTACK: ronuro/(Emet Ali) (mob_3519) attacked [Security Post - Cargo] with the ...

To start things off, I can find absolutely no logs for this round save for tickets because they exist in a format separate from logs. If any admins can find them please let me know.

I just realized the reason why I couldn't find them was because I was looking through Sybil's logs. I'll sort ...

To start things off, I can find absolutely no logs for this round save for tickets because they exist in a format separate from logs. If any admins can find them please let me know.

Ticket logs involving you and me
From Ticket #2 during round 250657 on manuel:

---- Log Begins ----
2025-03-28 02 ...

I think I know what Maxipat is trying to describe, I'm gonna try and give a better example.

Lets say I'm playing as Joe Maxcap, the nonantagonist scientist. I use a maxcap to blow up John Syndicate, a traitor, and I also catch a dozen innocent bystanders in the blast. Obviously, I would get ...

The player, despite being allowed to do whatever they want to the antagonist, still acted against rule 1 towards those other players that put good-faith effort trying to have a better RP situation.

Does this general mindset only apply to the nonantag side of rule 4 (do what you want to antags ...

there was a situation where a player was entitled to killing a deconvertable and cuffed cultist, and the player did so, though seemingly only to be a dick towards everyone around trying to deconvert that cultist player

So to clarify, are you saying this is a situation that you believed should ...

Manuel would need a population cap for MRP2 to work

A population cap wouldn't work either. We tried this when Sybil was real popular and regularly hitting the popcap by establishing Sybil-2 as an overflow server. It was constantly dead because people wanted to play with the community of their ...

It was romerol. U FAIL!!!!

Actually, romerol itself doesn't cause toxin damage. Romerol, no matter how it ends up in the body, creates a benign tumor that will sit there doing nothing until the patient eventually drops. It is only zombie bites and scratches that create the malignant form of the ...

I hope they didn’t burn the entire year’s budget on the first two months, we’ve still got 311 days to sprinkle drama among.

I really liked Haagen Dazs toasted coconut caramel but then they discontinued it so I’ll go with cherry vanilla

I think murder is a severe response to a word, even if that word is a slur. We don't murder people over words in real life and I think that reasoning should extend to IC as well and Security should be allowed to arrest murderers even if the murder was valid OOC.

In real life you'd be at risk of ...

Wait I just realized I responded to a 5 year old post

Anyways, I think what I miss most aren't even the people I remember playing with, it's all of the people I used to play with but can't even remember. I'm approaching 7 years having played this game, there's bound to be tons of people I used to ...

hell, even Athena validhunt who hates my guts probably but it was nice to always see her in the same rounds

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/697207914930372728/1322022888517140571/Screenshot_577.png?ex=676f5d42&is=676e0bc2&hm ...

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AFAIK if you use arrow keys instead of WASD you're able to move at the same time you talk?

The up arrow pulls your last message, and then the message before that, and so forth. The down arrow does the opposite. So, unless you can toggle that off, you still talk with your feet ...

Wait why is this from August

My concern would just be that this role seems prone to validhunting.

I don't really want drones doing stuff in that area is my problem, it's the realm of atmos techs and engineers. They shouldn't be undoing sabotage or anything in these areas. I really prefer just being more lenient on drone laws but using code to cripple what they can do to make sure they aren't out ...

conrad wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:48 pm
warbluke wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:44 pm Have you tried typing while running?
Idk what you mean, you talk with your feet so you the spessman can't walk and talk at the same time. There's probably a problem I am not seeing?

AFAIK if you use arrow keys instead of WASD you're able to move at the same time you talk?

Is walk speed even config, or is this a code issue?

Please edit your appeal to fit the template.

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There don't appear to have been any tickets opened that shift to get the sec officers' sides of the story, so I'm not sure how Nox knows what justification the sec officers actually had. DrAmazing was also online during at least part of the ticket and talking in asay, so I'm sure either they or ...

Please fix formatting, if you don't mind

Overall, I determined that officers going on strike to prompt the armory to be opened (Under what felt like a pretty justified reasoning) was entirely within the realm of IC.

You are allowed to disobey a superior's order with appropriate in-character ...

"Do not go out of your way to round remove antags that can be deconverted, unless the situation has degraded to the point where it is necessary to do so."

I want it to work less in the realm of "can" be deconverted

Can be deconverted as in "is an antag with deconversion mechanics", not can ...

If anybody can think of a better way to handle this then let me know.

There's no obligation for you to hold back or anything. Cultist comes at you? You're free to kill them then and there. Storming a cult base? It'd be stupid to say you can't kill them. Go ahead, fire into it with absolute ...

There's no obligation for you to hold back or anything. Cultist comes at you? You're free to kill them then and there. Storming a cult base? It'd be stupid to say you can't kill them. Go ahead, fire into it with absolute disregard for the lives of those within. The only issue is when you start going ...

If a law is vague enough that it can have multiple reasonable interpretations, it is considered ambiguous.

I think this does most of the heavy lifting. It has to be a reasonable interpretation - Saying "Aha, you spelt revolutionary as revulotionary and as such I can now kill you" is pretty ...

I think the overall point im trying to make is enforcement and the line as to what is to far is not clear. The rules state one thing, policy discussion another and each administrator which I spoke to as per the request of Iain had differing opinions. I I think its entirely unrealistic for someone ...

There's not really much time left to reduce it without just lifting it entirely, but I'm perfectly fine with doing that.

It felt a little excessive when I placed it, but I also couldn't think of another way to convey how serious of an issue it was. You seem genuinely apologetic, so I've reduced ...

I'm a little worried we'll just end up with a repeat of Sybil-2, from back when Sybil was the popular highpop everyone is playing it server. Sybil-2 was an overflow server that no one ever used, and when given the choice of waiting to play Sybil or joining the deadpop Sybil 2, people would either ...

[b]Why are you making this appeal?(Check what applies):[/b]
[b]() - The ban/note is factually incorrect[/b]
[b]() - The ban/note is not against the rules[/b]
[b]() - The ban/note needs modification[/b]
[b]() - The ban was unjustifiably harsh[/b]
[b]() - I was permabanned and I want another chance ...

You can also just clear it with an admin beforehand.

Naming policy is ruled on a per admin basis. One admin approving of it doesn't protect it from other admins.

I just want a naming policy that works as a guideline for most players and as something to point to when someone asks why they have ...

I somewhat agree with changing the purpose of Bagil, if only for the data. If Bagil is turned into a MRP server and people still max out Manuel, then that would mean that a good chunk of the playerbase who insist on playing on Manuel despite there being a viable alternative are simply pop chasing ...

Is this an MRP exclusive issue or do you just not like it in general?

I've always found it to be a boring enemy to fight in general. Space combat is terrible, fire spam is annoying, depressurizes a large chunk of the station. If you die to it you're probably husked, along with however many ...

I dont think we should be relying on admins to inject this stuff. I'm faaaaaaairly certain y'all can just disable dynamic and do what you want in any given round anyway, so why not just internally encourage that to happen more rather than removing normally spawning antags for the rounds where we ...

Would be funny if mothpeople also left moth dust as fibers in forensics.

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