Ban/note type (Check what applies):
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() - Note This
() - Forum Ban
() - Discord Ban
Ban/note length: N/A
Ban/note reason: OOC in IC - a mere 16 lines of text in to the round, take your pick - "what the sigma" "sussy bakka?" "on skibidi?"
Time ban was placed: 2024-09-25 19:00:50
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: Round 238954
Why are you making this appeal?(Check what applies):
() - The ban/note is factually incorrect
() - The ban/note is not against the rules
() - The ban/note needs modification
() - The ban was unjustifiably harsh This
() - I was permabanned and I want another chance
Why should this appeal be accepted?:
I would like to preface this appeal by clarifying that parsed logs are currently unavailable. Any help in retrieving logs to provide context including that of ahelps would be greatly appreciated.
In this round I made three references to OOC memes. For context I was playing HOS.
"what the sigma" - I cannot remember the context behind this one. I believe it was when an officer arrested the reporter of a crime rather then the offender however I am not certain.
"sussy bakka?" - It was reported that someone had broken into lawyers office. I was conversing with the detective and running print scans myself, there were three two sets of prints on the door and a separate set on a tie lay on the ground. the detective then gave me the name of an assistant and I asked if he was a "sussy bakka". I did this as a synonym of antagonist as he was suspected to be a heretic, the detective understood what I said and replied yes.
"on skibidi?" - For context, at shift start when HOS I drop tear gas grenades, flash grenades, cuffs, HOS clothes and the riot shotgun all on the equipment room floor shift start. Later on in the shift, I was walking around brig, I walked into the officer equipment room, and an officer walked in and stated, unprompted "for free??". I believe this was both in reference to the equipment on the floor and to a well known meme, I responded "on skibidi?".
For context, in popular culture the phrase "for free" started when individuals on the internet shared images or videos showing their feet, either intentionally or unintentionally, and commenters would respond with "for free??" implying they should have sold the foot pictures instead of giving them away for nothing.
References -
1.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywAe7okdLBQ
Title "For Free? (Song)" Quote, "You better put on your socks, you posted for free in this economy"
2. https://www.tiktok.com/@jaq0ha/video/71 ... 7300547617
A man takes pictures of a statues feet, the caption reads "For free?"
3.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x503LFqxWVA
Pokimane blurs her feet in a video and there are subtitles over the video which read "No free feet"
The point im trying to make here, is that "for free" can be interpreted as a reference to popular culture. However, very clearly, I misinterpreted this statement as the individual ahelped and Iain0 wrote a note for all three meme references.
EDIT: I then ahelped the initial "For Free" comment, full logs -
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Exact quote - pretty much the bottom line guidances are that your character should behave with a conversational style approptiate to this future setting and thus not based off 350 year old memes that died 348 years ago. similarly you should be a character and not apparent as someone merely playing a game and your conversation should be distinct from just memeing it up on discord chat, because again context.
I still did not agree with the decision with Iain made, so in preparation for my appeal I ahelped four instances in which I observed individuals breaking this rule.
The first ahelp was for a character named "Courier 6" this is in reference to Fallout New Vegas's main character, or a direct copy of his name. Iain0 dealt with this and I do not know the outcome, however the individual was running around after my ticket was closed still named Courier 6. I do not expect clarification on what the outcome was, however the above is simply my observations into the matter.
The second ahelp was someone using the word based.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/based
"Based is a slang term that conveys many different meanings depending on the context. Based typically means something that is "agreeable" and "cool," but it can also be used to mean something is considered anti-woke. Often used as part of the wider catchphrase Based and Redpilled, the word started to become used as a standalone term, further greying the core meaning and making it rely on the surrounding context of where it's placed."
It was then clarified by an admin that based does not in fact break OOC in IC rules, its only direct references to OOC memes. So, I thanked the admin for the clarification and continued my observations. I do not know who this admin was as I have forgotten. Clarification here would be appreciated.
The AI then made the comment "Press x to doubt". I ahelped this and received no response.
(https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/la-noire ... x-to-doubt)
Johnathan B Gibs (Liar GG, an admin) then stated "Smash or pass" over radio. I am unsure of the context however as per the last admins instructions, I ahelped as it was a direct reference to an OOC meme.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/smash-or-pass
Nox then responded and stated that references to popular culture were acceptable HOWEVER you cannot go mindlessly running around shouting them out without any cause or reason. I completely agree with this!
In conclusion we have four instances where people, including admins, have referenced popular culture such as I did however enforcement was not appropriate. I believe in each instance I made reference to a meme it was understandable and discernible accept the last instance of "skibidi" where I completely misread someone was saying due to my own brainrot.
Although I like to discuss and as seen above yap about problems or rule breaks, genuinely I attempt to use each instance as a learning experience. I do not believe however this note is a learning experience, I think it is a heavy handed approach to what began as a simple and hopefully understandable faux pas.
The enforcement of rule 3 was different dependant on which admin I was speaking to and in each instance where I ahelped behaviour which I myself took part in there was no enforcement including that of admins which should be held to a higher standard.
I do not believe this is a be all and end all situation where either its enforced or its not however I do not believe the context behind my language was properly assessed and neither was I given an opportunity to do so as Iain0 enforced the rules as they are seen by the book. I believe the above examples show a precedent where references to popular culture are only enforced if they're inappropriate or disruptive which I don't believe my statements were.
