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I think it's been long enough. I'm willing to give you a second chance now, please take care not to do this again.

You should be unbanned now, let me know if you can't connect.

Try connecting now.

The 357revolver account shouldn't be banned. TG servers also don't show that you've made any connection. Could you list what message you specifically get when you try to connect to the servers?

I'll be lifting this ban and giving you a second chance. Avoid playing on any of the alt accounts you've listed on, or any alternative accounts in the future when playing TG.

This is not a clean slate, but a second chance, please play with care and caution. If you can prove that you aren't here to ...

Can you please list all the accounts you used to evade?

I'll consider lifting this ban depending on whether you are being truthful about the accounts you evaded on and after making sure you didn't do anything super serious on those accounts whilst at TG.

I've said what I want to say and I'm not really going to amend this note.

There was additional context I could've mentioned here about how the cult really wasn't rampant and about half of the cultists were dead, which I didn't include in the note because it didn't seem super relevant, but in ...

I want to also mention, we have precedent about this too, not specifically about whether an antag is winning or not, but about saying what gamemode it is.

Referencing the gamemode ICly - It's OOC in IC if you say something similar to "It's revs" but it's okay if you say "There is a revolution ...

Im not sure where you are going with that it doesnt really make too sense. Referencing Narsie summon definetly is not an OOC thing.

You're allowed to reference the nar'sie summon. You're not allowed to speak as if you're playing a game. When you are in IC channels, you should be making an ...

The point is that you shouldn't be using phrases and terminology that implies that you're actually playing a game. The phrase that 'The heretic is going to win' or 'The cult is going to win' is OOC in IC in the context and way that you used it. It's clear that you meant they were going to achieve ...

I've been baited

One of the most frustrating things in the game is somebody just coming into your job and saying too bad the HOP said I can work here without having asked you at all. In the past not Only have I kicked these people out For this, but I have also ahelped them and been told to always do so. This is of ...

Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:20 pm So it then follows you can give the AI “only unicorns are human” laws and it is expected to act as a standard escalating crewmember, completely subverting the entire point of the purged AIs are antags rule?

yeah

this is one of the other several reasons i eluded to in my previous post. creativity is hard, i'm not worried about the difficulty inherent to making a compelling idea. i'm specifically worried that admins who would otherwise be running the same hypothetical event on our standard servers saving ...

what would this mean for the other servers? i feel like a lot of people have probably intuited this but big, round-defining, admin-abuse DM events are noticeably less common than they used to be (there are several reasons for this, but maybe most relevant here is that quality standards have ...

I don't think making restricted antagonists more rare in hopes that admins inject them into the round more often is a great idea. Right now, the best hope is a full rework in how dynamic works so that the storytelling aspect is more consistent and it doesn't feel as random as it sometimes feels ...

like goof said, viable

There isn't really any performance implications.
There is a problem if tgui breaks, which is why there needs to be a way to fallback to the built in command bar without having to go through tgui, because then it defeats the purpose of the fallback.

A version of RPR10 is already in rule 0. I think it's fine keeping RPR10 in the roleplay rules, because the rule 0 variation already covers all the cases we'd want to cover in LRP.

Rule 0 should only be invoked by admins when it is in the best interests of the server.
Admins have intervened before ...

This has been forwarded to the headmins.

I disagree with your last point and you are free to forward this to the headmins if you think the note was too harsh. But I don't think it was harsh at all as it's only documenting what happened and Lenald Wabbite isn't a good excuse anymore as to why you suicided because you couldn't get gamer gear ...

(X) - The ban/note was unjustifiably harsh

This note really is not unjustifiably harsh. It's just me telling you to stop doing this gimmick because you're doing it every metastation round as an assistant, breaking into the vault and taking all the loot. You claim that it's primarily for 'drip ...

my feedback page on page 2...

I'm glad that you acknowledge you went too far this time.
I'm willing to give you a second chance as long as you tone down your behaviour. It's fine if you cause conflicts like these and escalate them to their most extreme as long as you have a good reason for starting them, but if you're doing it ...

Somepan has retired so I'll be taking over this appeal.

You should be unbanned now.
Kedi310 will stay banned since you've admitted that it's your alt.

Let me know if you can connect to the server

You dangle a carrot in the form of more IC and then say you can just ignore the carrot. That is not what the average player will do, they will chase the carrot and the rest of the shift is negatively impacted by progtot only doing errants for TC that barely impact anyone.

Okay, but the ...

Traitors already have their primary objective system. Given that progression traitor is now limited to roundstart traitors only, they have plenty of time to plan out whatever they want to do. Secondary objectives have always been largely optional.

You can only set one objective at a time. On the ...

I would prefer to Code Request:

The ability to check antags from Discord
The ability to check the Crew Manifest from Discord
The ability to Reject an insufficiently useful Urgent Ahelp with the standard "Reword your ahelp and try again" message from Discord

this feature request would ...

considering how urgent adminhelps require you to read the infobox and follow what the infobox says and type out "I understand", it's completely your fault if you then decide to send something that breaks the usage rules outlined within the infobox.

Any note or bans applied would only be applied to ...

I'm willing to remove this note now that you've clarified that you saw previous radio logs from the detective, which sufficiently explains why you may have doubted Pom as a heretic. Additionally, the other situations have been clarified too regarding the 'Seems clear' and I'm also willing to give ...

From what I can see, the crux of the issue is my initial comments during/after the arrest. I severely doubted that jumpsuit fibers found inside ENGINEERING (their own department) near a heretic rift were enough to blame someone as an EOTC; especially when the alleged heretic was arrested inside ...

I'm willing to amend this note to the follow:
"Watch out for metafriending between C4g/Pom Patel. Had a round where Pom Patel, an atmospheric technician, was a heretic who was arrested after jumpsuit strand evidence near a drained heretic influence. During the order to arrest Pom Patel by the warden ...

As for the statements about "Everything seems clear" to the lawyer, was that not said AFTER C4g/ Pom Patel was given a clear bag check by myself? I feel that saying that "Everything seems clear" after the bag was found to lack any contraband or damming evidence to be reasonable. As shown by your ...

After various irrelevant encounters with assistants, I am directed by 1GlitchyCent/Tungsten-Carbide XXV to go with Conrad and detain C4g/Pom Patel with the assistance of the AI who opens the way to atmos and requests we dont harm the human(Pom Patel).

You've excluded details where you state ...

If you are an antag, or acting like an antag, you can be treated under rule 4. Assuming this isn't manuel, they can do whatever the hell they want to you as long as they're not breaking rule 8.

Problems you mentioned should be fixed by now. People sending sentences really quickly will now properly queue the messages up. You can't hear stuff through walls anymore, you'll only hear TTS messages from people who have actually spoken to you (aka you are able to see their chat message).
If you ...

Being tangentially connected to a crime will always be a case by case when determining if someone can be treated as an antag or not. If they're acting like an antag, they can be treated like one. Finding fingerprints near a heretic rune isn't good enough to immediately treat someone like an antag ...

Relaxed escalation standards is fine. Killing them all is not.

No, this isn't okay. You can't kill players for no reason, and giving 'Kill all X' orders, where X is a group of players, is a rule 1 breach if you don't know whether everyone in the group is definitively evil.
You'll get banned if you say "Kill all assistants" or "Kill all borgs" if there are a few ...

After discussing this with other admins, I'll be lifting the note.

This ban wasn't placed out of good faith, nor was it a spite ban. Every time you got heretic, you would constantly request for it to be switched out with a different antag, which comes under antag rolling. You are enabling heretic, taking the role that others could be taking and always requesting an ...

I'd really like to be able to bring back old tot *through* prog tot. Let me be able to choose big high rep objectives from round start with the caveat being that I can't cancel them and even when completed they do not go away, basically locking an objective slot. Also raise the objective slots to ...

Was this not the case anyways? I don't think you CAN do Nuke Ops/Zombies/Be A Dragon/Delam The SM without killing anyone who gets in your way, so Murderbone rules don't even apply unless the person is blatantly ignoring what their final objective requires to kill people for their epic ss13 kill ...

What does that have to do with being allowed to murderbone?

If it's in pursuit of something like station destruction objective, it does not fall under what the rules would consider murderbone.

Murderbone is already a negative buzzword but it is intended to be aimed at something else entirely ...

Response to mrmelbert

My personal two cents is while I think very relaxed escalation makes sense (killing people to spread romerol, for example) allowing full murderbone will just see traitors running down the halls with 60 tc full of equipment deswording random bystanders' heads off off with zero ...

just to let you know that a traitor cannot really complete their final objective. When they take their final objective, all other objectives get disabled and they automatically greentext (like heretic). They don't necessarily have to follow their final objective either, but most of their final ...

When a traitor takes a final objective, they can no longer take any more objectives and are automatically awarded greentext. Most final objectives are usually station destruction or mass panic/mayhem, so it would make sense that (on MRP) traitors would be allowed to do whatever they want now that ...

I'll be lifting this ban and turning it into a 1 year (from today) OOC ban. If you are told to not do something in OOC and then proceed to do it in the ahelp, this is a very bad idea and harsh punishments will be applied.
You should also not jokingly post the IPs of admins as this will also be dealt ...

As for the reinforced windows part, I'll make amendments to the note, but it doesn't change anything because reinforced windows are still very easy to destroy and deconstruct in comparison to reinforced walls, which is a much more difficult thing entirely.

EDIT: To put it in clear terms, this ...

This doesn't really change anything. People executing others for bad reasons should be ahelped, but their actions don't justify yours. You should not be copying a rulebreaker's actions if they are truly rulebreaking. Now you can execute someone if they're actually acting like an antagonist, but ...

I'm going to host a private SCP laboratory server for anyone willing to join over the weekends, post a reply in this thread with your discord name and tag if you want to play so that I can ping you when we start playing.

Quite a lot of traitor item costs were balanced around the fact that 20 used to be the maximum - think scarp and nstar gloves. Can't buy em both without a discount or buddy.
21 TC lets you get both, 22 TC lets you do double powersink, 23 TC lets you do blah blah blah bogus silly shit that we used ...

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