[WalterMeldron] bloofy01 - The ban reason is all wrong

[bloofy01]

BYOND account: bloofy01
Character name: Newmann Sheuer
Ban type: Head of Security, Security, Warden, Detective
Ban length: 30 days for Security roles, 1 day server ban
Ban reason: "Killed an engineer as a security officer for building some walls and windows (not reinforced) in the main hallways, which were easily deconstructable. The player then arrested the engineer and brought them to brig where they were then beaten to death with a welder. When asked why they had killed this person, they said it was to borgify and effectively round remove the player from the round. This is not an acceptable punishment given the crime and is a blatant and extreme overreach in proportion to what they did." This ban (BanID#59802) was applied by WalterMeldron
Time ban was placed: 2022-03-27 15:06:31
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 180630
Your side of the story: My conversation with the admin will show that l feel like it was unfair because l've been on the receiving end of this treatment before, minus the borging part, they just space me; and been told, by admins, things along the lines of "IC issue, sorry" or "you deserve it for messing with security (things like shoving them and stealing their shoes as non antag)" well either way, l accepted that l should just seethe and mald since the admins don't give a fuck about my ahelps, sorry for the rant. HOWEVER, after l've gotten banned l saw something : The admin lied in the report. What happened was that the engineer put down REINFORCED windows to cut the station in two. After dealing with shitters for nearly the entire round, l decided l would borg him so he doesn't do something so dangerous again (this amount of weaponized stupidity happens nearly every other shift). Now maybe it's a mistake on the admin's part, who had no reason to lie and was nice the whole time, but l would love for this to be corrected as to not confuse future admins; The windows were not regular windows, they were reinforced. The admin could've checked and asked me before writing the note, most of the windows were still up

Why you think you should be unbanned: I don't mind being banned if admins decide to really do their job and ban every single security officer who executes people over stupid things alongside the shitters who only play to grief and make others shift worse; but they won't, because this is terry. Let's look at what happened : An engineer (non antag), decides to build REINFORCED WINDOWS (and not EASILY DECONSTRUCTABLE windows and walls) to cut the station in two, their reason : "we keep the poor people out of our half". This is a hazard to every single person on station and a major inconvenience that can only be described as griefing. Anyways most people on the station are mad, the engineer is set to arrest and being chased down by a few angry people. I grab them, execute and they ahelp it. I was told to set them to 10 minutes arrest and that it would dissuade them from doing it again, in a shift where l jailed a mime for 2 minutes and they chased me down to pepper spray me. Anyways, that aside, I joke about "rng adminship" a lot, but this is not something anyone wouldve gotten banned for if any other admin dealt with the situation. It's not even about this ban alone, it's about admins having a different idea of what is and what isn't bannable depending on who you talk to. It's infuriating to think this is bannable and nobody l've ahelped before for executing me as a secoff has gotten this severe a punishment (or any punishment at all...), admins have said they're "cracking down on security and holding them to a higher standard", yet just the day before this ban l and two other people (one killed himself and soul departed because the secoff didn't set a timer) spent 20 minutes in brig, ten minutes with no timer, ten minutes with, by the time l was allowed to leave brig the shuttle had docked. I'm not gonna write down every single story where l shoved a secoff/built walls outside of sec and got executed for it because l'm seething over a 2d pixel art spaceman game, but damn does this feel unfair.
References of good conduct: I would never cheat on tg my beloved by playing on another server <3

[Waltermeldron]

This doesn't really change anything. People executing others for bad reasons should be ahelped, but their actions don't justify yours. You should not be copying a rulebreaker's actions if they are truly rulebreaking. Now you can execute someone if they're actually acting like an antagonist, but building walls and windows in the main halls that can be deconstructed without much effort as part of a gimmick, is not really antagonistic. I don't mind you arresting them for a while, but the places in which I saw the walls built were not really a major intrusion and did not block off major parts of the station as much as it did just provide a minor inconvenience

[Waltermeldron]

As for the reinforced windows part, I'll make amendments to the note, but it doesn't change anything because reinforced windows are still very easy to destroy and deconstruct in comparison to reinforced walls, which is a much more difficult thing entirely.

EDIT: To put it in clear terms, this appeal is rejected