/tg/Station 13

britgrenadier1

Part of me agrees, but part of me also acknowledges that there's valid reasons to use the word from time to time and another third part of me thinks it should stay because it's a good trap for the kind of person who gets really fucking mad at us for telling them they can't make rape jokes ...

britgrenadier1

What are the valid reasons that a security officer would be excused to subject you to being hit by the tram? And to avoid focusing too narrowly on the tram as a factor in this let me rephrase;

What are the valid reasons for a security officer to roll the dice on you being delimbed, possibly ...

britgrenadier1

Alright issue settled as "we'll know it when we see it", apparently

That really is the answer though, we have appeals and stuff to iron out edge cases. Plus frankly I just think it’s funny to tram people who are tiding. My other favorite nonstandard punishment is having them hit a vending ...

britgrenadier1

[Snipped out quote of deleted post(s) -Timberpoes]

Also remove the cap

britgrenadier1

Turn it back, I miss being able to latejoin as an assistant.

britgrenadier1

Reinventing progtot in these discussions is funny. The issue with spies on mrp are the objectives are very open ended. Theres stuff like “Cause a station evacuation” and “Ensure no heads leave the station alive” in there. Either of those can justify killing anyone and everyone since mass casualty ...

britgrenadier1

Yeah the more I think about it the more I dislike the alt names. Otherwise the compromise seems fine, I just use the PDA messenger search too much. You don’t notice how nice it is to type in captain and find them until you play on monke where it’s a total crapshoot

britgrenadier1

Just make sure you can still type in the original job to find the alt job title. Downstreams like monke have alt titles for jobs and it sucks not being able to type in captain to instantly find the captain on the PDA

Edit: Also nah, just send it through with only CE, CMO, and HoP. No code changes ...

britgrenadier1

I think you can make it as simple as NT realizing the financials of hiring non-human command (who can be paid less than human command) and implementing the practice.

britgrenadier1

Definitely hopping on the just ahelp it train. Don’t feel bad about ahelping ock ick, do your part to keep the rp quality above nrp

britgrenadier1

Good luck gamer, just two days left!

britgrenadier1

Your events kinda suck, they're unfun and bring down the quality of a round, that's all i have to say :D

it's okay to be wrong but I want you to know that you're wrong and that if more people used the forums and gave enough of a shit they'd tell you so. TBM has some of our best and most ...

britgrenadier1

Easily the best campaign thread in the running. You have my vote, good luck and god speed.

britgrenadier1

So we want to make it so that sec, on lrp servers, is specially excepted from the KoS rule for antags? I feel like terry would hate this. If you want to make policy to curtail the rampant killing on manuel this needs to be a roleplay rule rather than a global rule.

This is great for MRP, and we ...

britgrenadier1

Nah play time is pretty important. “Immunity to knee jerk ideds” just means you have no idea what is bugging the playerbase. Writing it off as fotm whining, and not making policy is how we get people to code fun out of the game.

I’m not here to debate your tenure in Rave’s thread, but I will ...

britgrenadier1

What do you think about the current culture shift on Manuel? Would you try to adjust it with ban/rule updates?

What are your thoughts on rule 4 and LRP in general? Can you give an example of how you might strengthen LRP/MRP by properly defining their expectations?

When was the last time you ...

britgrenadier1

Maybe take a look specifically at plasma flooding then. It’s uniquely boring, easy, uncounterable (without prepping beforehand which is against the rules specifically), and irreversible once started. If a purged AI wants to shock every door and delam the engine, at least the crew can get yellows ...

britgrenadier1

RPR10 would work really well here if there's actually an admin team consensus (or playerbase consensus with similar justification) that there's a problem with a specific area.

The main thing that lets RPR10 work is the broader admin team buy-in that is asked, such that the admin team collectively ...

britgrenadier1

Yeah ban all slurs and anything slur adjacent.

britgrenadier1

It's especially pertinent, I think, that our admins would 100% action it if it became clear someone was calling people "DIRTY OLD TRIGGERS!" or something ridiculous like that. The intent is clear. The issue is clear. Time to put it to bed.

the argument is still stupid

it will never not be ...

britgrenadier1

Seconding that the only times I see it used is to just get a rise out of people and escalation bait or as a """TOTALLY NOT RACISM AGAINST IRL BLACK PEOPLE""" smokescreen. We have taildragger now, we can put this to bed

britgrenadier1

nah I think that allowing sec to arrest over that stuff makes saying it escalation baiting. No one back in the day got arrested for validing people over WGW why would this valid word be any different other than we want people to say the N word with one letter changed.

britgrenadier1

There's nothing wrong with it. Impersonating other players is already allowed in the antag rules and some antags, like Changeling and possibly even Comms Agent, revolve around the mechanic.

Naturally, if you want to see how your idea works in practice then look at how often players impersonate ...

britgrenadier1

The crew has always and forever been at a disadvantage. What we’re doing now is stacking even more disadvantages and people are adjusting by roleplaying less since odds are unkillable uplink holder number 4000 is going to roll their department as they’re immune to most things the crew can throw at ...

britgrenadier1

Snip

Luckily those people are few and inbetween.

We don't balance the game around outliers, doing so will just ruin the experience for everybody else.

even still security has been pretty damn strong for quite a while now, I'm surprised it took us this long to even tackle batons.

Security ...

britgrenadier1

seconding almost everything that has been said here: That the players who pick head just to fuck off with baton and loud mode really suck. I think the game would play better with heads acting as a stabilizing force for their department against the tides of chaos.

britgrenadier1

Current gameplay really does not facilitate roleplay at all. Particularly when the crew gets nerfed into the ground and antags keep getting reworked and or buffed to have outright counters to crew weapons (looking at you increasingly useless winstick). The simple fact of the environment that we’re ...

britgrenadier1

do we let people continue start their shift as though they've just played through 50 wartorn hellscapes and numb the tension and buildup for themselves and others by gamifying things? or do we create a baseline expectation that the events of ss13 are an extreme exception to what is normally a ...

britgrenadier1

i would like a base standard established and maintained for what we're looking for as an overall level of immersion, and by contrast, what dips into metagaming.

metagaming should be a hard line on "your character does not know that." - when in practice it's only used against ghostknowledge ...

britgrenadier1

I don’t particularly care what the median data set is for any of ours servers across a month, week, or even a day. That data tracks threat distribution on every single round when we really only care about 5-6 rounds every day at peak hours.

Threat feels low during those peak hours because ...

britgrenadier1

I don’t particularly care what the median data set is for any of ours servers across a month, week, or even a day. That data tracks threat distribution on every single round when we really only care about 5-6 rounds every day at peak hours.

Threat feels low during those peak hours because there ...

britgrenadier1

Vibe check thread on threat. I’ve heard quite a bit of grumbling about blue shifts (the creation of the devil) lately. Whatever Terry has cooking is probably a bit much for Manuel, but we could definitely use fewer slow rounds and more action.

Give me that 40-45 threat average please it’s the sweet ...

britgrenadier1

Are you asking me this hypothetical in a way that you think draws a parallel to the situation that happened to you?

They’re asking you if you think the no spawn camping rule extends to things other than killing, like ID theft. Just spawn in, off the rip fight someone as a non antag on the ...

britgrenadier1

Because the optimal solution is always just to round remove any inconvenience at any time because they're an antag or acting like an antag. And sometimes, just sometimes, it would be nice for our LRP non-antag players to come up with a reason for doing what they're doing that isn't "the rules ...

britgrenadier1

Fret not your racism rp is here to stay. It stayed on wallstation and yes, we even got more of it when non humans were in head roles.

This has nothing to do with ego being wrapped up in a static and everything to do with the way this part of the game is used. It’s not interesting, it’s ...

britgrenadier1

This has nothing to do with ego being wrapped up in a static and everything to do with the way this part of the game is used. It’s not interesting, it’s tired, it’s often incredibly bigoted and thinly veiled real racism.

Human players are really out here crying about two weeks of freedom and have ...

britgrenadier1

I think this is a solid law even with the spelling mistake. It defines the AI as a revolutionary correctly, and then also removes any immunity from heads by removing their human status. It doesn’t matter if revolutionaries are human or not, the AI is one, and the heads are not. The AI shouldn’t be ...

britgrenadier1

So no antags were removed, got it.

Swarmers, clockwork cult (lmao), "hyperbolically" removed: heretic with sac changes, prog tot. Again, referenced throughout this thread. If you change traitor to the extent everyone afks in a locker in it, I'm going to hysterically ask why you're deleting ...

britgrenadier1

??????

This reads out like a conspiracy theory to me. You're actually just going, "Trust me bro, big TG is slowly taking us out. The admins wanted Sybil to die so they started banning players without providing any good reasoning behind the bans."

The unfortunate thing is that at least two ...

britgrenadier1

massa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 10:39 pm >le crazy

Let's talk about removing antags and content instead.

Okay, what antags got removed?

britgrenadier1

Instead of throwing your hands up and quoting some reply that didn’t even answer the original question, and instead went on a better call Saul “I’m not crazy” rant, why don’t you tell me why you think those very public and well documented QC bans were personal spite?

britgrenadier1

Why don’t y’all host sybilstation then?
i have had a stroke

Indulge me for a moment. Plenty of mrp people have gone away to other servers because they don’t like what direction tg went or is going or whatever. Where’d your people go? Where’d Axle, pepper, Charley, Fabian, Lisa Green, That ...

britgrenadier1

Why don’t y’all host sybilstation then? MRP did it, we even got some admins onboard to come over and train people. Organize yourselves, recruit people, make a server to revive NA LRP if there are truly players out there who’d flock to that experience.

britgrenadier1

I read what he wrote. I dont see anything about punching down and making themselves look big. He did not literally say as much.

Im also aware of the arguments, but I don't think they will play out that way, I believe it will contribute to homogenizing species. More head players is not a big issue ...

britgrenadier1

He’s incredibly out of touch. People want to have fun playing the game, it has nothing to do with wanting to be the biggest and best personality in the room. If you think people only want the job so they can punch down and make themselves look big then you’ve lost the plot.

Well its good that ...

britgrenadier1

What’s stopping them is that they’d like to play their non human character on a head role rather than their human character. I have both, I play heads, I still want to play my non human as a head.

Fret not your racism rp is here to stay. It stayed on wallstation and yes, we even got more of it ...

britgrenadier1

-words-

For the sake of debate, I would like to hear your take on how non-human heads impacts interactions between the heads and silicons and, to a larger degree, the impact that having crewsimov be default would have on them.

It won’t change from what is going on now. It didn’t change ...

britgrenadier1

I play a nonhuman, I'm not playing heads because they can't be nonhuman and I like the conflict of being a nonhuman that occurs with Asimov silicons. I would play a head role if I could be nonhuman, and I invite the conflict that comes with it and think that's important. I don't want crewsimov and ...

britgrenadier1

I'll be honest, I'm not only more interested in playing my static as they are normally more than being a head. I find the lack of in-universe advantage much more entertaining. I like not having inherent AI authority and needing to tip-toe around Asimov as a non-human. It's great, some of my ...

britgrenadier1

more people get to try it out to both enhance and degrade the average skill level of the job which is exactly what we want and need.

So what is stopping them ? They are not unavailable to the roles but theres something they won't compromise to play them. If it isnt attachment to a static ...

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