Borgs Killing Aliens without exposed skin

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Borgs Killing Aliens without exposed skin

Post by Helios » #124700

This came up earlier in a game, where borgs killed an Alien Wizard and his Alien Apprentice. The Alien Apprentice had his skin clearly visible that he was an alien. The wizard on the other hand had a gem hardsuit, which completely covered his skin, so it wasn't clear he was an alien. The borg used Examine, which showed his naked sprite to see the borg, and this was the only way that he knew it was an alien.
Is using examine to tell the species of something as a borg who is completely covered without any exposed skin an acceptable thing to do? Or is the examine showing a naked sprite an oversight which will be eventually fixed?
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Re: Borgs Killing Aliens without exposed skin

Post by Cheimon » #124721

Well, it's not outrageous to imagine the borgs can tell what species something is without seeing the skin. They've got built in medical HUDs, for example.
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Re: Borgs Killing Aliens without exposed skin

Post by oranges » #125236

There are too many tells to properly enforce something like this, just assume the borgs/ai always know what race you are.

In my opinion the AI/Borgs seeing you as non human is one of the balancers on non human races.
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Re: Borgs Killing Aliens without exposed skin

Post by Not-Dorsidarf » #125703

The examine function's little species icon is stupid and just causes issues like this.

I'm pretty sure its supposed to show you them with all their kit on but it doesnt.
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Re: Borgs Killing Aliens without exposed skin

Post by Scott » #126580

Or maybe the silicons can just analyze organics more in depth and figure out their species.
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Re: Borgs Killing Aliens without exposed skin

Post by WJohnston » #126871

I don't really think this should be much of a policy discussion, more of an in-game exploit due to a bug. When we finally fix the ability to see your skin and all that in the tiny icon, then we'll be able to assume they can't kill you if they don't know what race you are.
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Re: Borgs Killing Aliens without exposed skin

Post by Sweaterkittens » #126893

If this helps at all, part of my Plasmamen intiative is changing the examine sprite to just show your current appearance instead of your species, because it's silly that your species is shown no matter what you happen to be wearing/how good your disguise is. So when that hopefully gets merged this will no longer be an issue.
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