Please make *scream audible again

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Please make *scream audible again

Post by Likteer » #748761

EDIT: I PR'd it. Turns out I wasn't the 1st one to attempt this either.
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/86782
(https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/57749)

*scream (and *screech) don't play a sound, unless triggered naturally
Other audible emotes work on a cooldown to prevent spam.

With the cooldown in place, and "clowns" moving on to TTS (has it's own anti-spam),
I don't see why it should still be treated so harshly.

Why do I want to scream on demand?
  • The barrier sticks out among the other emotes. It irks me.
  • I find it amusing in moderation.
  • I think it brings out the fun in other people, especially on LRP..
    Audible emotes breathe a bit of life and grabs attention in the way normal talk can't.

    When you act goofy, a lot of people stop thinking about gameplay and goof back,
    when otherwise they wouldn't give you the time of day.
For instance, when I see a giant sentient spider in maintenance, I could immediately run away, fight or snitch on comms...
But I can also stop and *stare until it does something, maybe even *me: chitters (talking is obviously a no-go).

If I could then AUDIBLY *scream when running away, after my excellent diplomacy inexplicably fails, it would really make the whole interaction come together for me.
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Re: Please make *scream audible again (server config)

Post by RaveRadbury » #748782

I'm also pro audible *scream, although I'm not sure if it's ever been audible?

I've seen spam concerns addressed on other servers with oxyloss, which I think is pretty funny and interesting. We should have more mundane oxyloss and stamloss interactions.

"Yeah but is it fair to have it hotkeyed" I'd argue kinda sorta yeah? Like, humans instinctually scream. I'd rather hear a scream from maint than see straightforward callouts in comms. They have the same level of effort but one is more IC, I think.

It's likely an easy PR, just have to see what the maint team thinks.
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Re: Please make *scream audible again (server config)

Post by Roadto3k » #748785

It was that way a long time ago, but oxygen loss didnt stop spam. I think some lung damage would be good
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Re: Please make *scream audible again (server config)

Post by norsvenska » #748791

screaming too much makes you lose your voice irl so that should be mirrored here
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Re: Please make *scream audible again (server config)

Post by Vekter » #748812

I would put a cooldown on it of like 2 minutes because I was around when cyborg *deathgasp didn't have one and holy shit you people can't be trusted with that power
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Re: Please make *scream audible again (server config)

Post by Likteer » #749148

RaveRadbury wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 4:37 pm It's likely an easy PR, just have to see what the maint team thinks.
I asked here because it looked like server config.
I would try to PR myself otherwise, but it seemed best I can do is ask on forums.
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Re: Please make *scream audible again (server config)

Post by Diasyl » #749178

Why we didn't make audible emote spam bannable already?
Seems like most of the problems can be solved by just banning them.
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Re: Please make *scream audible again (server config)

Post by mrmelbert » #749217

I'm of the opinion we need to block people from binding every sound emote to the same button before adding more
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Re: Please make *scream audible again (server config)

Post by datorangebottle » #749280

mrmelbert wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 6:42 pm I'm of the opinion we need to block people from binding every sound emote to the same button before adding more
clearly we should make it so the code automatically bread smites anyone who binds more than one sound emote to the same button.
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Re: Please make *scream audible again (server config)

Post by Likteer » #749607

Diasyl wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 3:46 pm Why we didn't make audible emote spam bannable already?
THIS ^

Also I was wrong, it's code. Ima make a PR.
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Re: Please make *scream audible again (server config)

Post by Jacquerel » #749616

I support making it audible with like a 3 or 4 second cooldown, if we have TTS it doesnt matter anyway
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Re: Please make *scream audible again (server config)

Post by Super Aggro Crag » #749643

i love making noise.
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