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Post by Deepwoods » #518629

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Tarchonvaagh wrote: Not only miners boots and not only survivor knives
Here's a question, as I never figured it out when I was messing with it. How do you extract the knife from the boot when you need it?
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Deepwoods wrote:
Tarchonvaagh wrote: Not only miners boots and not only survivor knives
Here's a question, as I never figured it out when I was messing with it. How do you extract the knife from the boot when you need it?
Alt click, or pull its sprite to yours, just like with any other container
Also if you examine it and click the hyperlink, it'll show you the list of items you can put in it
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Post by zero the big boy » #518668

the uv lamps on suit storage units completely and utterly remove all radiation damage from people at the cost of some burn damages
it's probably going to be the normal strategy for the cmo to jam people in to their suit storage unit once omnizine chems are merged to purge radiation
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zero the big boy wrote:the uv lamps on suit storage units completely and utterly remove all radiation damage from people at the cost of some burn damages
it's probably going to be the normal strategy for the cmo to jam people in to their suit storage unit once omnizine chems are merged to purge radiation
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zero the big boy wrote:the uv lamps on suit storage units completely and utterly remove all radiation damage from people at the cost of some burn damages
it's probably going to be the normal strategy for the cmo to jam people in to their suit storage unit once omnizine chems are merged to purge radiation
If you hack them, you can make it so they totally destroy anything placed inside. So that may not be the best option.
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Cryo cells consume oxygen, so you can also hook them up to any pipe that supplies enough oxygen. Distro probably won't work, unless it's highly pressurized and contains more oxygen mols than usual.
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Denton wrote:Cryo cells consume oxygen, so you can also hook them up to any pipe that supplies enough oxygen. Distro probably won't work, unless it's highly pressurized and contains more oxygen mols than usual.
>not overloading the distro with 1000 kpa oxygen as atmos tech
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Denton wrote:Cryo cells consume oxygen, so you can also hook them up to any pipe that supplies enough oxygen. Distro probably won't work, unless it's highly pressurized and contains more oxygen mols than usual.
>not overloading the distro with 1000 kpa oxygen as atmos tech
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You can pre click people to make them get instantly get clicked the moment they step on your tile
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Ian can deliver cargo mail and lay it at people's feet, because corgi's are programmed to retrieve objects to its "owner" based on old name-tagger gimmicks that usually get the HOP killed when said item is a syndicate minibomb.

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according to the wiki, you can make shivs to convert into heretic knives. no longer will i have to break into the kitchen or cargo to make my blades.
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datorangebottle wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:18 am according to the wiki, you can make shivs to convert into heretic knives. no longer will i have to break into the kitchen or cargo to make my blades.
you didn't know this? any sharp weapon can be used.
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Jonathan Gupta wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:21 am
datorangebottle wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:18 am according to the wiki, you can make shivs to convert into heretic knives. no longer will i have to break into the kitchen or cargo to make my blades.
you didn't know this? any sharp weapon can be used.
I thought it was literal kitchen knives and that was it. Sheeeit. Hatchets?
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Vekter wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
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Chadley wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 4:00 am WENDEZ, cute, cute. I imagine the sleeper activation code when I hear it. That's pretty cool. qB). But I don't like that it doesn't line up to be anything obsurd like WEWLAD. 6/10

SUGMA, nevermind it makes sense now. fuckyou/10
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datorangebottle wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:30 am
Jonathan Gupta wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:21 am
datorangebottle wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:18 am according to the wiki, you can make shivs to convert into heretic knives. no longer will i have to break into the kitchen or cargo to make my blades.
you didn't know this? any sharp weapon can be used.
I thought it was literal kitchen knives and that was it. Sheeeit. Hatchets?
yes even hatchets.
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Jonathan Gupta wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:31 am
datorangebottle wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:30 am
Jonathan Gupta wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:21 am
datorangebottle wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:18 am according to the wiki, you can make shivs to convert into heretic knives. no longer will i have to break into the kitchen or cargo to make my blades.
you didn't know this? any sharp weapon can be used.
I thought it was literal kitchen knives and that was it. Sheeeit. Hatchets?
yes even hatchets.
it technically works with anything thats coded as a subtype of the kitchen knife

this includes bloodletters, plastic knives, shivs, carrot shivs (???), xenobio rainbow knives, the envy knife, ritual knives (not cult daggers), butcher's cleavers, combat knives, bone knives and the curator's hunting knife
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nianjiilical wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:13 amcarrot shivs (???)
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Post by cacogen » #620427

you can buy a mail bag from the cargo autodrobe to empty mail crates without having to move them off the cargo shuttle

you can also use the mail bag to pick up manifests with one click to easily move them
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cacogen wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:43 am you can buy a mail bag from the cargo autodrobe to empty mail crates without having to move them off the cargo shuttle
yeah but why would you not take the empty mail crates off the shuttle to store things so that you can sell the normal crates that are actually worth something?
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Chadley wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 4:00 am WENDEZ, cute, cute. I imagine the sleeper activation code when I hear it. That's pretty cool. qB). But I don't like that it doesn't line up to be anything obsurd like WEWLAD. 6/10

SUGMA, nevermind it makes sense now. fuckyou/10
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Jonathan Gupta wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:58 am plasma cutter target limbs.
Holy shit Gupta your right.
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My penis
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datorangebottle wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:31 am
cacogen wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:43 am you can buy a mail bag from the cargo autodrobe to empty mail crates without having to move them off the cargo shuttle
yeah but why would you not take the empty mail crates off the shuttle to store things so that you can sell the normal crates that are actually worth something?
well i don't know how you play cargo but it's faster and i've never used a crate to store things. i don't think i've ever seen anyone using them to store things either. they're usually just sitting around cargo, begging to be sent back, along with other crates and unstamped manifests. why don't you share a little thing you learned instead of responding to mine and turning it into a dick measuring contest?
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cacogen wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:20 am well i don't know how you play cargo but it's faster and i've never used a crate to store things. i don't think i've ever seen anyone using them to store things either. they're usually just sitting around cargo, begging to be sent back, along with other crates and unstamped manifests. why don't you share a little thing you learned instead of responding to mine and turning it into a dick measuring contest?
first off: i tend to order emergency supplies and store them in the warehouse. random stuff like pacmans, tools, medkits, defibs, etc.
secondly, i think you're reading a little too much hostility from my post. maybe i didn't word it right or whatever. i was just trying to point out that since mail crates have no value, they're perfect for storing and mailing things. if i wanted to make the thread into a dick measuring contest, i'd respond to timonk instead.
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Vekter wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
Chadley wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 4:00 am WENDEZ, cute, cute. I imagine the sleeper activation code when I hear it. That's pretty cool. qB). But I don't like that it doesn't line up to be anything obsurd like WEWLAD. 6/10

SUGMA, nevermind it makes sense now. fuckyou/10
kieth4 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 2:34 pm If it goes to appeals I will stand as the shield and protect this man's right to shit himself. Heavy is the head that wears the crown.
sinfulbliss wrote: I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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datorangebottle wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:07 am
cacogen wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:20 am well i don't know how you play cargo but it's faster and i've never used a crate to store things. i don't think i've ever seen anyone using them to store things either. they're usually just sitting around cargo, begging to be sent back, along with other crates and unstamped manifests. why don't you share a little thing you learned instead of responding to mine and turning it into a dick measuring contest?
first off: i tend to order emergency supplies and store them in the warehouse. random stuff like pacmans, tools, medkits, defibs, etc.
secondly, i think you're reading a little too much hostility from my post. maybe i didn't word it right or whatever. i was just trying to point out that since mail crates have no value, they're perfect for storing and mailing things. if i wanted to make the thread into a dick measuring contest, i'd respond to timonk instead.
And thirdly, I am the alpha cargo tech with the biggest dick because I store things exclusively in coffins, which can be made from wood ordered via the supply shuttle at a cheaper price than normal crates while functioning the same.
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Post by cacogen » #623041

Fire alarms aren't triggered by the temperature thresholds on the air alarms in the area but by their own internal temperature thresholds (above 200 celsius and below -3 celsius) which as far I'm aware you can't view or change in the game.

Fire alarms react only to the temperature on their own tile. If you put an atmos holofan over a fire alarm's tile (usually the tile in front of its sprite) and the temperature changes in the area to the point that it would normally activate, it won't. You can just deactivate the thermal sensor with a multitool after screwdrivering the alarm, but it's easier to fix firelocks once you understand how they're triggered.

Fire alarms activating beneath -3 celsius is why they activate so often. That temperature is because humans take cold damage beneath that limit (supposedly). That damage can easily be offset with a winter coat though (helps up to -213.15 celsius, the same as a firesuit, but covers less body parts), which takes about as much effort to get as a crowbar with the added bonus of not having to crowbar open firelocks until the temperature is fixed. Strangely, humans take heat damage at 66 celsius but that isn't the upper limit.

There was a PR opened at the beginning of the year decreasing the temperature at which fire alarms activate that never went through (https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/59205) which would've avoided a lot of unnecessary firelock hell this year. But there's a PR open at the moment making it so firelocks only activate based on the temperature of their own tiles (https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/62055) which resolves the issue of one -3 celsius room with a fire alarm in it closing every firelock in the area (which the firelocks themselves exacerbate by preventing the flow of air in an area from averaging the temperature).
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Post by Timonk » #623071

Do the fire locks also close if the air alarm threshold is hit?
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Post by cacogen » #623076

Nope, air alarm thresholds have no effect on them. They check the temperature on their own tile to see if it's above or below a certain hardcoded threshold and if it is and they aren't emagged or broken, they activate. https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/ ... #L124-L125
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