cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Thu May 24, 2018 4:17 pm #412694

Bottom post of the previous page:

In my experience burning bodies will actually keep most of them down but a percentage will revive as charred zombies that are decently tough due to scar tissue and explode into smoke clouds when killed

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Thu May 24, 2018 4:45 pm #412699

I've tried to replicate this a few times but the corpses will just gain the "burned" prefix and remain the highlighted yellow in the item browser, which indicates that they haven't been crippled to prevent revival.

I haven't been able to find any actual mechanical effect of the "burned" prefix, having accidentally scorched a bunch of my clothing. It doesn't appear to be any less protective, durable, or change in weight/volume/capacity.

Alex Crimson · Thu May 24, 2018 5:23 pm

I just play with revive off and butcher as much as i can regardless. Its not fun trying to clear out an area with dozens of zombies only for them to start getting back up. Wouldnt mind enabling it if there was a decent way to mass butcher stuff. Even a corpse cart + fire would be fine. 5 minutes per corpse + stamina loss? Fuck that.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Thu May 24, 2018 6:16 pm #412723

IIRC the time and stamina investment is based on the bashing stat of whatever you have currently equipped. If you are running around barehanded for example it's going to cost a lot to smash zombies, but if you're wielding a sledgehammer or something it's like instantaneous.

I may be remembering that wrong but I thought during one of my "Let's try it out" type experiments of grabbing random weapons and going off with them that using the fire axe resulted in slow attacks that layed everything out, and that I was able to smash large piles of corpses with it super quickly.

Deitus · Post by **Deitus** » Thu May 24, 2018 6:47 pm #412730

So I should be (s)mashing corpses with my knife spear instead of butchering, or can I craft something better for pulping in early to mid game? P sure my butchering tool is just survival-standard pocket knife with butchering 1so that might be what makes it take so long

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Fri May 25, 2018 10:27 am #412932

Anything with a good bash or just high overall damage should do just fine. If you really want to go all in you could make something like the Homewrecker, but the knife spear or a makeshift crowbar should probably be fine.

If it's good enough for you to want to run around melee'ing everything with it, it's probably gonna be just fine for smashing corpses too.

I need to double-check that the system currently works as I think it does. I haven't tested to see if different equipped items currently affects the smash time, but I want to say it does or did work that way at some point.

Deitus · Post by **Deitus** » Sun May 27, 2018 5:40 am #413301

>have str 12
>smash with bare fists pulps
im ok with this.

also
>doing ok for once
>chillin in town lootin shit
>peek around corner
>riot bot getting gangbanged by zeds but nothing really hurting it, gives zero fucks
>sneak around corner and attempt to lockpick into house
>WOOP WOOP DAS THE SOUND OF THE POLICE
>wades through the fucking zombies to come arrest me
>stoprighttherecriminalscum.mp3
>dunno whats happening so let myself be arrested, maybe ill be taken to a police station with sick loot in it?
>nope cuffs
>fuck they wont come off
>run around getting cuff charge to wear off
>riot bot keeps following me constantly *BRAAAAAAAP*-ing his peace gas in my face with his conga like of zeds that now want my dick too
>night time by the time cuffs come off and cant find my cart with my gas mask in it with all the running i did
>get exhausted
>zombies catch up and take turns anally raping me while the bot stands by telling me to stop resisting

ayo FUG da po-lice that was a gayass way to die, even the time where i lit myself on fire by trying to cook water on a burning bush was better than that shit

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Sun May 27, 2018 11:31 pm #413430

yeah police bots will fuck you. Starting as a cop makes them ignore you which is pretty sweet, and i think if you become a US marshal in game they will leave you alone too

Alex Crimson · Sun May 27, 2018 11:33 pm

They are a pain in the ass to kill if you use melee. The gas on the riot control bots fucks you up. I lure them into the gun shop i just robbed and close the door on them.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Sun May 27, 2018 11:46 pm #413432

Anything that makes you lose turns can fuck your shit up no matter how good you think you are. Examples include:

Riot gas
Being shocked
Being knocked to the floor by Bio Operators using judo on you
Special Junji Ito secret assholes
Excessive counter-attacks from Dragon Kung-Fu or Zu Quan

Also not sure if it needs to be said but just in-case:
Aiming can be interrupted by people slapping you. If you try to precisely aim at someone too close they will walk up and slap you, resetting the time it takes to aim. If you select to not stop aiming, they will smack you again before you can get the shot off, prompting another "do you want to stop?". You can/will probably die before ever getting that shot off, so don't keep trying to do it.

Super Aggro Crag · Mon May 28, 2018 2:38 am

Too bad theres no gun kata martial art wherr if u get attackdd while aiming u do a backflip and shoot inair

Alex Crimson · Mon May 28, 2018 6:43 pm

Will you two take your ERP to private messages and stop shitting up a perfectly good topic?

Deitus · Post by **Deitus** » Wed May 30, 2018 6:48 am #413973

im finding shelter challenges to be really good point investments because the basements almost always have at least decent-tier loot, like check this shit out

that said, any tips for early game warmth if i start with 0 fab/tailor? ive been making do with blankets/chestwrap/sock mits, etc but its a pain to take them off before each fight, not to mention dangerous.

Alex Crimson · Wed May 30, 2018 10:54 am

I usually just take a day or two to powerlevel my skills a little. If you are near some cars and have the tools to remove them, car seats will give you leather patches(you can get nice stuff from cars. Even the car clocks can be a good way to get a watch early on). You can also just cut up spare sheets for rags and thread. Get level 3 tailor, make a bunch of T-shirts, Light Gloves, Balaclavas. Leather Cloaks will protect you from the rain completely, but they are kinda heavy. You will need fab 1 to make a wooden needle, i think. Still, just find something cheap to make in bulk.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Wed May 30, 2018 11:11 am #414004

Don't take rags apart for thread, it's very inefficient. Look for long/short strings and take them apart instead. Windows with curtains are a good source for them, as well as car seatbelts.

Turning a rag into thread takes like an hour or something close to it while turning a short string into thread only takes like 5 minutes.

Alex Crimson · Wed May 30, 2018 11:19 am

Timbrewolf wrote:Don't take rags apart for thread, it's very inefficient. Look for long/short strings and take them apart instead. Windows with curtains are a good source for them, as well as car seatbelts.

Turning a rag into thread takes like an hour or something close to it while turning a short string into thread only takes like 5 minutes.

Always new stuff to learn~

Deitus · Post by **Deitus** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:39 pm #414944

>you can only use the pixel minimap with tilesets
wtf I hate console now

Deitus · Post by **Deitus** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:33 pm #419114

Ok so now that the knife spear early game is dead what is a good way to start out without getting infected to shit since clothes are about as sturdy as paper

Iatots · Post by **Iatots** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:05 pm #419118

Jesus christ

Look, the only appealing portion of this game is beating the odds and surviving the first year or so. If you can't or don't want to go from defenseless puppy to experienced doggo, just get an easier start. I recommend Bionic prepper: you start with a machete and crossbow, plus some nice bionics. Learn to kill effectively, bust a lab or two, and then you're done with the game. Remember to aim, read that info box carefully when pressing the fire button.

Alex Crimson · Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:42 pm

Deitus wrote:Ok so now that the knife spear early game is dead what is a good way to start out without getting infected to shit since clothes are about as sturdy as paper

Forked Spear is just as good. Knife Spear isnt even ded. Maybe it just cannot carry you though the early game for once. Reach weapons in general are just too strong, but early game melee is brutally punishing with infections/bites. Its not that hard to get leather stuff though(spoilers: its not from killing animals). Then when you can make heavy survival armor, you are basically invincible to most zombies, as long as your stamina lasts.

Super Aggro Crag · Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:00 pm

Deitus just really fucking sucks at CDDA and we should stop giving him advice and tell him to play something else so he stops being frustrated.

Deitus · Post by **Deitus** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:15 pm #419136

i enjoy playing cdda and i appreciate the advice you guys give, im just looking for ways to optimize my games. didnt mean to annoy you guys so i apologize if it came across that way

Alex Crimson · Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:49 pm

Deitus wrote:i enjoy playing cdda and i appreciate the advice you guys give, im just looking for ways to optimize my games. didnt mean to annoy you guys so i apologize if it came across that way

Eh i wasnt annoyed at all. Dont know about Super Aggro Crag. Personally the most amazing thing i realised when i started playing CDDA was that you can get so much stuff from disassembling building/cars. Curtains from windows give you rags, car seats give tons of leather patches, seatbelts are ropes. Hell, the clock on a car is a wrist watch. Their fuel tanks can be removed, emptied and used as water tanks. You can get a lot of shit real fast once you learn what stuff disassembles into. Then with all that stuff you powerlevel your skills and have leather armor on day 2-3.

Iatots · Post by **Iatots** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:43 pm #419152

I am annoyed, he's been at it since november and every time he gets cockslapped he comes here asking for meta strats. Learn the game, or don't, it's bad anyways.

Super Aggro Crag · Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:04 am

Not annoyed just concernes for your well being

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:18 am #419550

Why are people yelling at the person keeping this thread alive? What?

Chill duders. Share your strategies and help another player out. Be excellent to eachother.

Infection tips:

Cauterizing a bite using a knife and source of flame fucking sucks try not to do it. I think these days it's more likely to immediately upgrade the bite to an infection than it is to clean the bite. Might be affected by either/both survival or medical, dunno. If you have a deep bite try to run around for a little while looking for something better to fix it before resorting to the knife. If you can't find something after a few hours then roll the dice.

IIRC liquor can be applied to bites to try to fix 'em, or at least used to make shitty improvised medical kits and give you a slightly better chance to try to cure it that way. Early game bites/infections are probably the number one killer of players tbh, and why I recommend grinding tailoring/suiting up as fast as possible as your highest priority in the beginning.

All that carrying capacity wont matter for shit when you're getting ripped apart and slowed down by pain, or festering wounds. Armor rating and encumbrance are the two most important stats for armor, carrying capacity should be an afterthought.

Armor progression is like:

Denim -> Leather -> Survivor Trenchcoat + Survivor Cargopants -> Fullbody Survivor suits GG you have practically won at this point

Try not to ever ever ever let any body part tip 20 encumbrance. I try to stay as low as I can go since it makes you faster, better at dodging, your melee and guns more accurate, etc. etc. etc.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:09 pm #419570

Start in summer and create a new class called the shower samurai that starts with nothing but a towel and a katana. Making new profession is really easy I have done it.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:34 pm #419590

Playing one of the bionic military professions is a great way to learn like has been said. When you have become god-king of the world start over again with a slightly less effective start.

Eventually you'll be grinding against RNG as a shower victim on a really bad day start hoping to fuck you find some kind of antibiotic ASAP or die.

Super Aggro Crag · Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:10 pm

Shower victim is fun

Deitus · Post by **Deitus** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:48 am #420495

>start a new run
>find a glock and 50 ammo in my bunker
>get to town
>oh shit fungaloids, i keep hearing how they're really bad
>realize they're nonagressive
>zombies hate them with a burning passion so they leave me alone
>thanks fungabros
>get a shitton more good loot and necessities while raiding a few buildings
>go to sleep after reading a few books thinking how lucky i've been
>wake up to see the walls of the house ive been squatting in have been fungalized
>haha thats weird but it cant be that bad r-right
>go outside
>over 2 pages worth of fungaloids milling around farting out spore clouds

ok so lesson learned about fungaloids.

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:05 am #420499

Run as fast as you can before you get infected.

Deitus · Post by **Deitus** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:18 am #420500

too late

literally everything in my reality bubble seems to be infected and there's a small country's worth of fungaloids making walls of *braaap* so i think imma just restart here

still kinda funny though

Alex Crimson · Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:49 pm

Set it on fire before you restart. Always fun.

Super Aggro Crag · Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:51 pm

I play with fungalards off. Theyre boring to fight and they cause performance problems.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:53 pm #420674

Fungaloids actually dont spread unless you keep them in your reality bubble, so just drive away. They are also a source of infinite plant sacs which give good hydration and can be made into cooking oil and as plant matter in a few vegetarian food dishes so having a few nearby can be useful as long as you dont let them get out of hand and have a gasmask to prevent infection

Alex Crimson · Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:58 pm

Antifungal drugs are pretty easy to make in bulk anyways. The mass of enemies can give you something fun to do when you are geared enough to blow shit up. I can understand turning it off if the idea of spreading masses of units is intimidating for newer players, but it really isnt that bad.

Super Aggro Crag · Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:04 pm

Its fantastically fucking boring clearing them when i can get anything they give me from farming (excluding the marloss shit but im not a shroomfucking dimensiontraitor)

Alex Crimson · Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:29 pm

Super Aggro Crag wrote:Its fantastically fucking boring clearing them when i can get anything they give me from farming (excluding the marloss shit but im not a shroomfucking dimensiontraitor)

Its not that bad. Its just a different kind of challenge compared to clearing out a city of zombies or dying instantly to Chicken Walkers. Not like you NEED to clear them out anyways.

TheWiznard · Post by **TheWiznard** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:05 pm #420701

Alex Crimson wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:Its fantastically fucking boring clearing them when i can get anything they give me from farming (excluding the marloss shit but im not a shroomfucking dimensiontraitor)
Its not that bad. Its just a different kind of challenge compared to clearing out a city of zombies or dying instantly to Chicken Walkers. Not like you NEED to clear them out anyways.

first time I saw a chicken walker I just saw the name and was like "oh it must be like a zombie chicken thing" managed to walk right up to it before kaboom

Super Aggro Crag · Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:37 am

At least a special zombie or a chicken walker can be threatening. Fungaloids are literally boring spam that cant do anything if you wear a mask.

Deitus · Post by **Deitus** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:55 pm #424761

>it’s a screecher alerts every zombie within a parsec to your exact geographic coordinates during a night raid episode
Fffffffffuck
Also the new skeleton rework seems to spawn DOOT juggs on every street corner send help
Good news is that I found a wood axe in my starting shelter this run, bad news is no grocery stores. Early alternatives for/how to cobble together a grocery cart?

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:58 pm #424768

I think fungaloids are cool because they change the terrain to be that all white fungus and I can picture it being really still and spooky walking around in this quiet place with spores floating in the air and a thick blanket of greyish moss covering everything

Deitus · Post by **Deitus** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:57 am #429399

>jump off bike
>crash through an entire fucking wall

why did this make me laugh so hard

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:34 am #429418

American construction, everyone.

Super Aggro Crag · Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:01 pm

Youre lucky the roof didnt collapse onto you.

Deitus · Post by **Deitus** » Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:59 am #439199

been getting back into this since MHW is wearing a bit thin for now, found a megastore early on and decided to try for it before realizing there was a platoon of zeds inside. luckily though they're all just basic ones so far, so i've just been using the bushes in the field to kite them all and whack them with a bat i was lucky enough to find earlier. hopefully some good loot in there to make up for the time and effort, but unfortunately a decent-looking RV parked outside got hammered pretty hard by the horde; hopefully i'll still be able to use it as a water source and/or salvage parts for later if i survive.

food item's new ability to freeze is probably gonna be a real pain in the ass though since im doing winter start.

Super Aggro Crag · Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:45 pm

Food freezes now? Does that mean we can iced cream

John_Oxford · Post by **John_Oxford** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:55 am #439858

reinforced iced cream+++

Qbmax32 · Post by **Qbmax32** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:48 pm #439956

Am I beta when I disable all the nether monsters and just leave the basic zombies

TheWiznard · Post by **TheWiznard** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:43 pm #440022

Qbmax32 wrote:Am I beta when I disable all the nether monsters and just leave the basic zombies

do you turn up the spawn rate with just plain zombies or leave it default? I like doing basic zombie runs but I double or triple the spawns

Super Aggro Crag · Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:32 pm