Watercooler/Slowchat 2: Son of Watercooler

[420weedscopes]

Bottom post of the previous page:

>TP
is that teleporting?
What the shit happened to Wurm?

yes it's a one-time teleport if you say No or X out the window then you're walking across like eleven kilometers to get to our settlement
the meditating paths also give you a Teleport To Home every 18 hours, excluding Path of Insanity which gives you a Teleport To Random Tile On The Island instead

[Qbopper]

if you think a one time TP is bad don't play unlimited, they give server owners all kinds of options + mods

if a server isn't running above at least 2x action/skill timers it's an oddity

[oranges]

why would you play a game that just lets you edit anything to get everything?

[Qbopper]

Saying unlimited is a game you can edit anything to get everything is like wondering why anyone plays /tg/ because they can download the source, host a server, and spawn all the items

[XSI]

A one time teleport seems alright, I suppose

I do think it's one of those things that you don't really need to have, and any village worth getting into would have someone capable of going back to newbietown to guide you to your new home anyway.
Otherwise, if they don't even want to spend the effort on that, why bother helping them out?

[Qbopper]

When's the last time you played

They have a new map called Xanadu and it's fuckhuge, it's absolutely ridiculous and has like 10 different spawn towns

[Malkevin]

why would you play a game that just lets you edit anything to get everything?

People that have day jobs and family commitments

[Aloraydrel]

Wurm is only really playable at 4x. Even then it still is a big grind

[Qbopper]

I find it really relaxing but I will absolutely be the first to admit that I am a pussy and play Unlimited

more so because >subscription fees in 2017 than anything else, but the increased action timers is a nice bonus

it's a damn fine grind though, nothing is more satisfying than actually having an impact on the map and making friends, it's one of the last old school mmos

you actually recognize your neighbours/people who are good at specific jobs/etc

i rolled a WO character with a yoyo affinity once, its not related but everyone laugh at me

[XSI]

When's the last time you played

They have a new map called Xanadu and it's fuckhuge, it's absolutely ridiculous and has like 10 different spawn towns

2009 or something

[420weedscopes]

2009 or something

you would have been on golden valley
that map is four kilometres squared
Xanadu is 32
you need a one-time teleport, especially when you're recruiting - our settlement is a two hour boat ride from the nearest starter town, and that's with perfect winds the whole way

>subscription fees in 2017

i have never once given rolf money
i shit ten thousand planks out in a day and sell them in the trade channel for a silver then i'm premium for the other 29 days
the crew also get a fucking LOT of rare rolls so those sell pretty bigtime
related: http://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/ ... m-auction/ and http://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/ ... re-larder/
on top of that we've got a handful of priests that are just spamming Pray for 18 hours in a row so they get an influx of coins and gems
we've even used this money to settle personal, IRL debt
tl;dr money isn't an issue lol

[Qbopper]

oh I know you can buy premium but I don't have the time to consistently log on within my membership and make stuff to sell, nor do I find it overly interesting - it's not that it's not possible, I just don't really want to do it, I'd rather pay $30 or whatever once and have a game I can play whenever I want with no issues

I was afraid I'd miss the sense of community but the server I usually play on feels like WO anyways so it's never been a big deal to me

[420weedscopes]

i guess that's a good reason to get unlimited instead of choring on online
do you have time to spare? no? wu

[DrPillzRedux]

I had a really painful dream about a friend who killed himself last year and one I lost not long ago.

Shoot me, desu.

[Qbopper]

I had a really painful dream about a friend who killed himself last year and one I lost not long ago.

Shoot me, desu.

that's unfortunate to hear, I can sympathize with having dreams about rough shit that's happened IRL, sorry man

i guess that's a good reason to get unlimited instead of choring on online
do you have time to spare? no? wu

yeah I love the persistence of WO and how it takes actual work to be well known for stuff/make things, but WU is nice when you can't dedicate that level of time to the game

WU is still challenging/rewarding imo, but there is a difference

[XSI]

that map is four kilometres squared
Xanadu is 32
you need a one-time teleport, especially when you're recruiting - our settlement is a two hour boat ride from the nearest starter town, and that's with perfect winds the whole way

I can see why you'd need a teleport then
Has Wurm actually gone up in playercount over the years?
It's just java, and they've not really done that much to change the game from what I know, so I don't know if they actually had anything going on

I'll keep you in mind for when/if I ever want to return to Wurm though, good memories of that game, though it took forever and I was drowned in work and didn't get to do anything fun.
Just had to keep working since literally nobody else on my half of the server did tailoring/leatherworking on a quality above 50, and we needed that to pay for the deed for a massively oversized town with at one point only 3 people in it

[Qbopper]

Wurm has only gotten more popular as time goes on, there's a fucking ton of maps beyond GV/freedom/wild now and most of them are connected via boat

there's been a lot of QOL changes from my experience

[420weedscopes]

Has Wurm actually gone up in playercount over the years?

sort of
it's sitting at around 400-1000 players depending on the time

there's been a lot of QOL changes from my experience

uh huh
here are the maps

testing
golden valley (some players still just hang out on here though)

freedom (pve save one)
independence
deliverance
exodus
celebration
pristine
release
xanadu
chaos (pvp)

epic (pvp, skills start at 50)
affliction
desertion
elevation
serenity

it is possible to right click your ship and Plot Course to a certain island, then when you cross a border you're on the opposite border of that island
this means if you wanted to sail from indy to cele you don't have to sail for literal days

[Qbopper]

I think I had a GV account kicking around at some point, I should have sold it

[XSI]

I suppose Wurm is stable, at least

I've been wanting to play a similar game lately, but I just can't like the UI and interface of Wurm anymore. Even SS13 has a better interface for most things from what I remember

[420weedscopes]

there's a different wooden-looking UI if you'd prefer that
i'm a classic boy though

[Qbopper]

there's a different wooden-looking UI if you'd prefer that
i'm a classic boy though

first thing I change in the options every time tbh

I suppose Wurm is stable, at least

I've been wanting to play a similar game lately, but I just can't like the UI and interface of Wurm anymore. Even SS13 has a better interface for most things from what I remember

May have been the case back in the day but ez mode stuff like the crafting window have made this untrue, you can basically add shit to a little GUI box, select what you're making, and press a button to auto queue the action as many times as you have the mind logic for

[Remie Richards]

Had another blood test.
Yet another hole in my arm.

[Super Aggro Crag]

My head hurts because I've been pounding it against a wall the past two days. I'm starting to get a little dizzy.

[PKPenguin321]

My head hurts because I've been pounding it against a wall the past two days. I'm starting to get a little dizzy.

shouldnt do that

"You scored an 8 on the questionnaire. That means you have minor depression."
"As you're travelling home next week I can't do anything. See your GP down there."

Drugs were offered verbally, twice. I said no to both because my issues are long standing and not something I just need to reach the end of the tunnel on.

fuck depression
youre a buff boi just kick depression's ass

[Remie Richards]

I'm conducting an experiment.
So far the results are:
People suck I have no friends.

[Ricotez]

Spoiler:

i thought we were friends ;_;

[Armhulen]

You don't even consider your fellow spacemen your friends? That's cold.

[Super Aggro Crag]

I'm conducting an experiment.
So far the results are:
People suck I have no friends.

Atleasr you aren't fucking bald remie you hair having goober

[DemonFiren]

I'm conducting an experiment.
So far the results are:
People suck I have no friends.

Atleasr you aren't fucking bald remie you hair having goober

Would you rather have gone prematurely grey?

[PKPenguin321]

reposting from shed

ay fuck depression
everybody in here's saying how fucked up they are and i got a shitload of friends with it irl too
lost a couple friends to it as well and now another's come to me and confided in me that hey guess what he's depressed too and is scared he'll kill himself
is this a common thing or do i just attract depressed people? i wish i could help them out better but when somebody's depressed there just doesnt seem like theres anything to do. i want to do more than give them pity or wave them off with "see a therapist" (that's not to say i dont recommend a therapist though).
how do you help depressed people? ???

[Super Aggro Crag]

Every night I pray that I die in my sleep and yet I am still disappointed. I hate my life and everyone in it. All my friends are a bunch of selfish traitors and I hope they get aids. If I have to listen to one more histrionic rant about how you're the saddest person alive because mike pence is gonna steal your hrt and electrocute you until you don't want to eat pussy (doesn't even make any fucking sense because you have a fucking cock you dipshit) I am going to blow up the ocean. Or bitching about people not letting trannies into bathrooms in south Carolina or some shit because guess what you don't live there and also you don't even leave your fucking house so I don't see how you'd ever need a public bathroom. Having friends that are different orientations, race, or gender identity than you is a fucking chore you have to listen to them piss and cry constantly and they need constant reassurance but when you've been struggling financially and living out on the street for almost a year they just shrug their shoulders and say they can't help you because they need to buy more guns to protect against the terfs/white people/straights. Fucking useless mongs and their fucking spergbux, I hope every democrap dies so these scum don't get paid free money to watch tron every day whereas I have to cut myself down to 3 meals a week to keep out of the rain.

[420weedscopes]

no one thing works for every depressed person
it is unfortunately a case by case basis and even worse so many people simply never get cured
i was lucky and solved it with some pills to get me off the ground and then a stranger on the internet told me some magic words and i just realized everything was fine now
therapy is a suggestion medication is a suggestion a hobby is a suggestion the mountains are a suggestion listening to other's stories and experiences is a suggestion
absolutely try all of these and if they don't work then try harder or try something different
that's the only thing i can say for certain

some anti-depressants and "he threw his pills in the french lake" won't work for everyone

[XSI]

Thats the thing with pills for it
Brain chemistry is different for everyone, and those pills are a gamble. They can work and give you enough motivation and energy to work through things and all, or they can make it worse. Or they just have no effect and after x months its time to move on to other pills to see if those work.

Shit kinda sucks, there is no way to help a depressed person 100%. Pills or no pills

[Ricotez]

Depression brings about physical changes in your brain. Fortunately your brain is very malleable, and the damage will revert over time. But it takes a lot of time. That's why depression is a downward spiral and why it is so hard to snap out of, even when everything else in your life is back to normal.

So remember: when you feel generally miserable and don't really see the point in life, it's your brain chemistry trying to make you kill yourself. Are you going to let a few neurons ruin it for the rest?

[Super Aggro Crag]

I wouldn't be depressed if people would give me a bunch of money

[Remie Richards]

Spoiler:

i thought we were friends ;_;

almost 7 days rico!

hurts tbh.

[420weedscopes]

Shit kinda sucks, there is no way to help a depressed person 100%. Pills or no pills

literally what did i just fucking say

I drew a thing this evening.

nice

[Malkevin]

"May cause suicidal tendencies"

A common side effected printed on anti-depressants.
Just what you need right?

[oranges]

I wonder if that's just a correlation because they're usually given to depressed people and they listed it as a side effect for legal reasons.

I've never been depressed and I don't usually get sad about things so I don't know how to help people who are depressed.

[onleavedontatme]

I forget the technical term for the phenomena but basically some people are just too depressed and apathetic to even bother killing themselves. However, once the depression starts to improve they hit a point where they are still miserable, but are better enough that they can muster the motivation to end it.

[XSI]

I wouldn't be depressed if people would give me a bunch of money

Studies say this is...Partially true
Money helps up to a certain amount, then after that it stops helping
This amount is higher than what a majority of people earn, so it can be generalized that there are an unknown amount of depression cases out there that are at the least started by a lack of money, or worsened by such a lack of funds.

[Super Aggro Crag]

Crag is correct.

[XSI]

Yes. Crag is indeed right

[Ricotez]

Spoiler:

i thought we were friends ;_;

almost 7 days rico!

hurts tbh.

I'm confused now, what's going on?

[IrishWristWatch0]

Crag is always correct

[Qbopper]

I've never been depressed and I don't usually get sad about things so I don't know how to help people who are depressed.

most people don't realize this and just do stupid fucking shit to try and help someone depressed like say "HURR WHY R U SO SAD CHEER UP :DDD" so you're already helping by not begin a fucking dimwitted idiot

can you tell I REALLY hate people that do that

[420weedscopes]

Just what you need right?

the majority of anti-depressants will make you more depressed as you start to take them
and then make you more manic
and then slowly balance between the two
so yes it's what you need

[Cherrypone]

Aye, being told by me own mammy to be happy is not a happy time.

being guilted into being happy is some of the fucking worst shit someone can pull.
"just cheer up!!!" may be retarded and insulting but atleast it doesn't make things fucking worse, or atleast not by the same margin

[Screemonster]

Channel 5 in the uk is showing Watership Down.

I can't wait for the news articles tomorrow about the outraged parents that plonked their kids down in front of what they thought was just a cute cartoon about bunnies.

[Cherrypone]

keep us updated
also
>Watership Down on Easter
Hahaha whew