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Having played a decently long round as a medical doctor on Catwalk, here's my two cents so far. From what I can see, there are two obvious flaws, one being the lack of showers in the main treatment area, and the cold storage being located in the maintenance BEHIND the break room. The only showers ...

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im unsure if this is just my tg master but some areas of maintenance lack areas. also, considering you can just use wirecutters on the catwalks, it takes just one bored dude to knock out the power

RE this: I took a look at it and there's a wire under a wall (icky I know but it's the best I ...

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im unsure if this is just my tg master but some areas of maintenance lack areas. also, considering you can just use wirecutters on the catwalks, it takes just one bored dude to knock out the power

Fixed the areas.
The power issue is delicated and requires either some really smart remapping of ...

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CatwalkStation is READY!

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/86442

This is the thread for any and all feedback! I'll still be listening in other places but this is my main place I'll look for feedback. This thread will serve both for the testmerge and also for when it releases as well ...

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"loosening" enforcement that is already lax is just going to lead to NRP griefer station and won't really fly either, another solution to knowing if you can do something is to ask beforehand. Loosening the rules will only lead to more frustration with players not being able to get recourse ...

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We're fresh off the Wallening and a lot of discussion has been had about what could have been done differently. Notably there's been a conversation in #mantainerbus about admins not interfering on the moderation of #coding-general, leaving it to the mantainers to do so. Mantainer opinion on this has ...

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Alright so, I now have to ask.

Recently an admin removed someone's timeout from playing the roulette bot in the TG discord; the consequence of this was the removal of the roulette mute function.

How would you handle if something like this happened in a trail by combat? Someone got a friendly ...

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I played a round as the QM of Nebulastation on Manuel, here's my thoughts.

The map is nice. It's really really nice. It looks amazing. Aesthetics-wise, 10/10. Gameplaywise the same; the layout makes sense and is easy to parse, almost everything is either directly above, below or to the sides of ...

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I feel like the map really does not use multi-Z in a good or satisfying way.

The map suffers from a lack of verticality - it has 4 floors, yes, but it feels more like 4 hallways you teleport between with elevators than a real place with height. For example, in floor 1 you have cargo and directly ...

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I want to claim one of the rewarsd - here's The Beach revamp, merged.

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/78568

Discord account to discuss details: fazzie

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1: Is the bounty still up?
2: Does the PR for merging it cost GBP?
3: Has anything changed since when this was first posted? (Rules, guidelines, expectations, etc)

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Isn't this basically what the dna infuser already does?
It just needs some outcomes linked to mobs you get via cytology.

The Genetics minigame is just typing on a console in your room until you get the content
The Cytology minigame involves interacting with the round, cooperating with other ...

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I'm here to propose a solution for both Cytology and Genetic's problems: Cytogenetics.

Full idea breakdown: https://hackmd.io/@kNRZ9uxhShS3s2N9scOXxQ/Skb3SUxn3

Basically, the idea is that Cytology's problems (lack of content, lack of space in most maps) and Genetic's strenght (tons of content ...

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I have returned.

It's been 3 months but, I'm back. And a bit demotivated to work on this project. Making a station is a lot of work; I've done a ton alone but I can't really finish this like that. So I've decided to ask for help. I've created a GitHub fork and opening it up for pull requests n ...

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Can prisoners use the call elevator button? It seems like that'd just be an instant escape and access to the protolathe -- which can print powerful sec weapons -- and two windoors from the armoury.

They're gibbed instantly.

I 100% expect to be forced to change that but it'll be fun while it ...

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I AWAKEN FROM MY ETERNAL SLUMBER WITH THE STRENGHT OF REGIGIGAS, LIKE NO OTHER BEFORE! RIZE, CATWALK STATION! RIZE!

December has comen and gone, I'm rested and that means exactly one thing: Catwalk Station is back in production!
I don't really have anything to show right now as I started working ...

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(also won't prisoners gib themselves via that lower elevator call button or does it have a delay?)

Yes. Yes, they will.

I'd rather have a random selection of contraband in the locker instead of an fixed makarov, I like getting lucky on that combat shotgun or deagle.

It's not a set makarov ...

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So, the december feature freeze has started - meaning, I can't work on Catwalk anymore.

With that said I'll make the last progress report of 2021 - this is all I've done until this point, Sec and Medbay.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525521133060227081/915606821081849957/unknown.png ...

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Solution to all 4 problems: remove mining and allow cargo to order the minerals directly.

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what gameplay purpouse does decaying organs serve?

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What do you mean this interaction I thought about in 2 minutes that in reality adds nothing to the game isn't good? It's C O N T E N T and a F E A T U R E for F E A T U R E R I CH G A M E P L A Y !

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On the topic of Security: Will there be catwalks up above so that sec officers can look down on the prisoners from above? Because that would be pretty hype, and I enjoy the idea of sec officers not paying attention during a gravity outage and having a prisoner float up to robust them and break out ...

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>dissapointing
>summoning nar'sie
what

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Looks incredible, I just wonder if the Headcoders will consider adding it (did you talk with any of them about it) or if one of our current maps has to be taken behind the shed, and if that's the case, which one.

Before this thread even went up I talked with the maptainers showing the design ...

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Why did you call it a short rant that's 7 paragraphs

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Why can't we just implant them, give a mop and bucket and say go

Because they work for an organization that literally seeks to destroy Nanotrasen and feast upon its carcass.

what better way to flex on them than to take their special agents and make them clean it up, jannie

Any good ...

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Quick lil' update: Permabrig!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525521133060227081/910980539681497111/unknown.png

Decided to go with a more grittier style, to make it feel more like a prison indeed. The prisoner education room and isolation cell have been merged into one, the white room ...

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we cannot let this happen
craig would get too powerful

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Why can't we just implant them, give a mop and bucket and say go

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You literally answered your own question in your own first paragraph. Anyone who cares more about realism than game design should not be trusted with github access.

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where we droppin boys

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We need fewer stupid pages on the wiki, not more.

The wiki is better with a few silly pages than it would be with no silly pages.

- Veteran user who doesn't need the wiki

Yeah, it's funny when you' only go there once or twice a month but seriously after a while half the links linking to ...

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I live.

Here's the bridge.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525521133060227081/907732095164620850/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525521133060227081/907732145630494800/unknown.png

Whatty'all think? Fancy, hm?
Also before anyone asks: Yes, that is just a statue. It ...

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oranges wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:02 am it's not a removal, they're being consolidated into one item which has slightly more tradeoffs that require active user decision making.

If you're taking something and turning it into something that acts completely different then you're removing and replacing it.

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I like Idea Co because it means we get to seal you away in it

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Fuck it, actually make heretics and cultists MORTAL ENEMIES. Give them reasons to want to murder each other, make them immune to each other's spells. Give heretics and cultist bonuses for sacrificing one another.

New gamemode idea, the Clown is the only roundstart cultist and the Mime is the ...

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Cult:
Ok so you gotta do these spells so you can have a on-field presence but before that you gotta make these runes to convert people and-

Rev:
Tide. Go.

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I like the idea. My main concern is with assistants; if an assistant wants to make a larger scale maint room it's much harder to get a RCT than a RCD; for the RCT you'd have to get either Engineer's or Atmos' only RCT while for the RCD you can just ask Cargo.

What do you think about adding a ...

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I just got into test season meaning I shouldn't push myself too much with CatwalkStation - aka, I have the time to do this. I was indeed looking for something to distract myself a little and this is perfect. Expect a dope ass asteroid from me.

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oranges wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:15 pm any of the nonstandard shuttles are awful because people don't actually map things that have a design intent behind them, just what they think is cool.

Based oranges.
Honestly that's the same reason why I hate genetics and mining but that can go in its own thread.

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I was hoping this necro thread would have some design insights and boy was I disappointed

If you insist.

-> Turns out, removing things makes people MAAD! (Woah!).
-> Cloning completely trivialized an entire department. Hold your breaths til Ghilker removes the SM and adds 16 different ...

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Why the fuck should we, in a game that is infamous for its interlocking systems and creativity have a shuttle that bottlenecks creativity so the only solution is "get money lmao"?

Make the doors breakable. That way you can have some good design and have multiple ways of tackling the problem ...

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Cosmodeus wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:07 pmThe round only lasted thirty minutes. The virus was made by an administrator. The virus killed most infected players within five minutes of having it./quote]

I'm on the against virology side but this scenario is clearly not the mechanic's fault and just fucking shitty admemery

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I love how you had an excellent suggestion and managed to shit on it on the last possible moment

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Heyo! Told you guys I would be back in a few days!

Here's the courtroom area.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525521133060227081/900870420415254618/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525521133060227081/900870476073672734/unknown.png

Law & order! Everything you need ...

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Metastation is undoubtely the best map in the station.

I'm here to ask: Why?
Of course of course, the obvious answer is "Meta has worked continuously on it for years; all that time of polish made it the best station" but what I'm interested in is different: What was that polish? What changed ...

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In the past year or so TG station has irrevocably ran downhill, completely ruining any hopes of having a fun round in any codebase, let alone on TG itself. As a consequence, we had to have Cuban Pete himself bomb the server room irl to save us all from Ghilker deleting us from irl.

Other than that ...

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Hello friends! Long time no see, eh? Time for some updates!

Here's a completed departure hall and chapel!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525521133060227081/899790018510475284/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525521133060227081/899790065088221234/unknown.png

Had a ...

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Of course the problem here is that it would add nothing gameplay-wise, it'd only deduct from it, since the small aura of vision/awareness around you when you're deprived of your vision or sleeping, helps giving you the sensation that you're still part of the round, and that there's stuff happening ...

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