[Kevinz000?] Oldman - BSA'd 2 seconds before the round ends

[Oldman Robustin]

Time: Like 5 minutes ago, 11:00pm EST
Server: Sybil
Admin: Only one I see is Kevinz000

I solo hijacked, was cruising to Centcom, sent out some messages on the Command Console, then right as the round was about to end I get instantly killed by an explosion.

I ahelp'd it, no response. Ahelp'd next round, no response. I don't like the idea that an admin killed me and isn't going to fess up.

[imblyings]

[04:32:55]EMOTE: *no key*/(monkey (535)) : <b>The monkey (535)</b> rolls.
[04:32:59]SAY: ForcefulCJS/(Oldman Robustin) has made a Syndicate announcement: Nothing personnel kid
[04:33:01]SAY: Henk/ : Delicious!
[04:33:03]GAME: Explosion with size (-1, -1, 2, 0) in area Emergency Shuttle (164,194,2)
[04:33:03]GAME: Explosion with size (0, 0, 3, 0) in area Emergency Shuttle (164,194,2)
[04:33:04]EMOTE: ForcefulCJS/(Oldman Robustin) : <b>Unknown</b> seizes up and falls limp, his eyes dead and lifeless...
[04:33:04]GAME: Explosion with size (0, 0, 3, 0) in area Emergency Shuttle (164,194,2)

these are the unedited admin logs so I'm mystified as you are.

[D&B]

The only explanation I can think of, but it's a loooooong fucking stretch, it's you carrying a GPS and someone building a BSA cannon from the station goal and shooting it at your tag.

[bandit]

In the href logs Jimmy Jelly, the QM, appears to be using a detomax cartridge a bunch of times around the same point, could that be it?

04:32 NetherRocker (usr:Jimmy Jelly) || PDA-Jimmy Jelly (Quartermaster) src=[0x202e40f];choice=Detonate;target=[0x202e50d]
04:32 ForcefulCJS (usr:Unknown) || The communications console src=[0x2004ad3];operation=MessageSyndicate
04:32 Venomsnek (usr:Malachi Stough) || Vote src=[0x21000026];vote=close
04:32 AquaRei (usr:Transparency) || /datum/tgui src=%5B0x2101e809%5D&action=tgui%3Ainitialize
04:32 AquaRei (usr:Transparency) || /datum/tgui src=%5B0x2101e809%5D&action=power
04:33 Croatar (usr:Zaex Croatar) || Jonathan Talist src=[mob_401];item=11
04:33 NetherRocker (usr:Jimmy Jelly) || PDA-Jimmy Jelly (Quartermaster) src=[0x202e40f];choice=Detonate;target=[0x202e308]
04:33 ForcefulCJS (usr:Unknown) || The communications console src=[0x2004ad3];operation=nukerequest
04:33 Croatar (usr:Zaex Croatar) || Jonathan Talist src=[mob_401];item=1
04:33 Armhulenn (usr:Maximus Hincken) || Maximus Hincken src=[mob_836];follow=[mob_848]
04:33 NetherRocker (usr:Jimmy Jelly) || PDA-Jimmy Jelly (Quartermaster) src=[0x202e40f];choice=Detonate;target=[0x202e50d]
04:33 NetherRocker (usr:Jimmy Jelly) || PDA-Jimmy Jelly (Quartermaster) close=1

[imblyings]

In the href logs Jimmy Jelly, the QM, appears to be using a detomax cartridge a bunch of times around the same point, could that be it?

04:32 NetherRocker (usr:Jimmy Jelly) || PDA-Jimmy Jelly (Quartermaster) src=[0x202e40f];choice=Detonate;target=[0x202e50d]
04:32 ForcefulCJS (usr:Unknown) || The communications console src=[0x2004ad3];operation=MessageSyndicate
04:32 Venomsnek (usr:Malachi Stough) || Vote src=[0x21000026];vote=close
04:32 AquaRei (usr:Transparency) || /datum/tgui src=%5B0x2101e809%5D&action=tgui%3Ainitialize
04:32 AquaRei (usr:Transparency) || /datum/tgui src=%5B0x2101e809%5D&action=power
04:33 Croatar (usr:Zaex Croatar) || Jonathan Talist src=[mob_401];item=11
04:33 NetherRocker (usr:Jimmy Jelly) || PDA-Jimmy Jelly (Quartermaster) src=[0x202e40f];choice=Detonate;target=[0x202e308]
04:33 ForcefulCJS (usr:Unknown) || The communications console src=[0x2004ad3];operation=nukerequest
04:33 Croatar (usr:Zaex Croatar) || Jonathan Talist src=[mob_401];item=1
04:33 Armhulenn (usr:Maximus Hincken) || Maximus Hincken src=[mob_836];follow=[mob_848]
04:33 NetherRocker (usr:Jimmy Jelly) || PDA-Jimmy Jelly (Quartermaster) src=[0x202e40f];choice=Detonate;target=[0x202e50d]
04:33 NetherRocker (usr:Jimmy Jelly) || PDA-Jimmy Jelly (Quartermaster) close=1

nice one sherlock

I guess this bomb of an admin complaint.. fizzled out

*csi miami ending theme plays*

[Armhulen]

it's not ogre, last I checked detomatrix don't create a hole in space much create THREE explosions at once

[imblyings]

*svu opening sound plays*

bluespace has an explosion signature of 0,0,0,0 and is meant to not blow up holes to space so it can't be bluespace arty, the first -1,-1,2,0 is the PDA blast

uh oh

[onleavedontatme]

It is possible that the PDA explosion set off other explosives Oldman may have had, like C4.

[imblyings]

ah inspector phaeron

yes that seems to be the case, the explosive signatures match that of c4, and sympathetic explosions do occur if the c4 is on the ground, even if in a bag

this case may just be successfully.. disarmed

*yeahhhhh*

[Lumbermancer]

It is possible that the PDA explosion set off other explosives Oldman may have had, like C4.

C4 doesn't even break floors unless placed on the floor, you wouldn't mistake it for bsa.

[kevinz000]

I didn't have anything to do with this, I wasn't at the computer.
I do apologize for being AFK, though. I seem to have a big issue with not closing my clients

[firecage]

It is possible that the PDA explosion set off other explosives Oldman may have had, like C4.

C4 doesn't even break floors unless placed on the floor, you wouldn't mistake it for bsa.

lumber, perhaps. Though after the PDA explosion, the floor would already have been weakened. The two explosions after that would be enough to destroy an already damaged floor plating.

[sirnat]

But how would detamax PDA thing had reached him?

I thought once shuttle takes off you can't use it on anyone in the shuttle/escape pods BC there not being a tcom server for that z level

[lzimann]

The complaint was against Kevinz000, in the case of Forceful thinking he(kevinz) BSA'd him, which was not the case. What killed him is another question that has nothing to do with the complaint in question.
So I am going to lock this until a headmin decides about it.

[Okand37]

Oh my, this sure happened early!

It looks like there's nothing in the presented logs to indicate that it was an admin created bluespace artillery strike that ended up in your death, I know it really can be a bummer to die out of the blue, but you're always more than welcome to ask another admin for the logs if the one you're trying to contact isn't there! It is certainly understandable coming from your point of view to want to blame it on the administrator online, but in the future it'd be appreciated if you could try to verify whether it really was the admin or not before making a complaint against them!

As a recap, as there's nothing evidence wise presented that shows it was due to an administrator, I think we'll have to deny this complaint. If you do however figure out whatever led up to your death, we'd be glad to know incase it is something we've overlooked! Thank you for your understanding, have a nice day!