[tsaricide] Permabanned For breaking non-existant rules

[hotdongsteam]

Byond account and character name:Hotsteamydong
Banning admin: tsaricide
Ban type: Perma From Sybil
Ban reason and length: Reason: Asking for ideas on how to fuck with yogstation then posting pictures of it constantly in ooc
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 4:00 AM
Your side of the story: So after everyone was done making fun of yogstation, someone recommended I go on yogstation and see how long it would take until I got banned, and I figured why not so I did and asked what I should do.
So after doing that one of the admins ratted on me to yogstation

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http://puu.sh/jB3p6/2d575b1684.png

and I got banned from there. Then I asked if they ratted me out, they said they didn't and then permabanned me

Spoiler:

http://puu.sh/jB3XS/f79b021ac4.png

Why you think you should be unbanned: https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Rules# There's nothing in the rules about what I did and no on PM'd me to stop earlier, and the OOC was pretty dead so I doubt the admins didn't see it in order to warn me

[Saegrimr]

How about number 1? Don't be a dick.

[hotdongsteam]

How about number 1? Don't be a dick.

No one told me I was being a dick, and when people in OOC are telling me to do it I'm going to do it.

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and correct me if I'm wrong, which I totally might be, but doesn't the dont be a dick rule only apply to the current round

[Saegrimr]

and when people in OOC are telling me to do it I'm going to do it.

Oh sorry.
OOC: Don't be stupid and brag about raiding other servers, stop being a dick.

and correct me if I'm wrong, which I totally might be, but doesn't the dont be a dick rule only apply to the current round

You are wrong. Its pretty general. Don't be a dick.

[hotdongsteam]

and when people in OOC are telling me to do it I'm going to do it.

Oh sorry.
OOC: Don't be stupid and brag about raiding other servers, stop being a dick.

and correct me if I'm wrong, which I totally might be, but doesn't the dont be a dick rule only apply to the current round

You are wrong. Its pretty general. Don't be a dick.

If you would have posted that I would have stopped, and the way the rule is worded makes it seem like the rule only applies to this server, not other servers

[hotdongsteam]

I'm sorry for being a dick and all but I honestly would have stopped if you warned me.

[Saegrimr]

Nobody wants the kind of people who raid other servers around, just like none of the other servers want to be raided.

Is it really so strange that if someone is an excessive shit on one server, that other servers will turn you away too?

[hotdongsteam]

Nobody wants the kind of people who raid other servers around, just like none of the other servers want to be raided.

Is it really so strange that if someone is an excessive shit on one server, that other servers will turn you away too?

People told me to do it so I did, and this server isn't like yogstation is it.

[Stickymayhem]

Wow you're really an idiot. Your justification is you got peer pressured? Are you 12?

This ban can stick.

[hotdongsteam]

Wow you're really an idiot. Your justification is you got peer pressured? Are you 12?

This ban can stick.

My justificaton is that you're using the rule don't be a dick when I wasn't being a dick to anyone in the server

[Screemonster]

I've had people come to raid/grief game servers I admin. We normally just ban them and forget about it, but the point where they start doing it in the name of whatever community they hang around on normally, that's the moment where we fire their login details at the admins of the community in question.
Most communities, regardless of the game in question, don't wanna be drawn into raid and counter-raid bullshit.

Likewise, if one of our players decided to log onto /tg/station and grief on their own time we'd not give a fraction of a shit, but the moment they brag about it on our forums is the moment we give them the boot.

edit: if you want anon3 amendment citing of precedent, a whole bunch of people got banned for the vorestation raids.

[hotdongsteam]

I've had people come to raid/grief game servers I admin. We normally just ban them and forget about it, but the point where they start doing it in the name of whatever community they hang around on normally, that's the moment where we fire their login details at the admins of the community in question.
Most communities, regardless of the game in question, don't wanna be drawn into raid and counter-raid bullshit.

Likewise, if one of our players decided to log onto /tg/station and grief on their own time we'd not give a fraction of a shit, but the moment they brag about it on our forums is the moment we give them the boot.

edit: if you want anon3 amendment citing of precedent, a whole bunch of people got banned for the vorestation raids.

Didn't raid in the name of /tg/ i raided in the name of me feeling like it.

[Akkryls]

I've had people come to raid/grief game servers I admin. We normally just ban them and forget about it, but the point where they start doing it in the name of whatever community they hang around on normally, that's the moment where we fire their login details at the admins of the community in question.
Most communities, regardless of the game in question, don't wanna be drawn into raid and counter-raid bullshit.

Likewise, if one of our players decided to log onto /tg/station and grief on their own time we'd not give a fraction of a shit, but the moment they brag about it on our forums is the moment we give them the boot.

edit: if you want anon3 amendment citing of precedent, a whole bunch of people got banned for the vorestation raids.

Didn't raid in the name of /tg/ i raided in the name of me feeling like it.

And you were banned in the name of admins feeling like it.
It's been a long standing thing where people get banned if they specifically go and shit up other servers. I could've sworn we used to have some written down rule about it somewhere on the wiki, but da rules have gone through so many changes that I don't think it's on there any more. (Didn't it use to be in the admin decisions log? Though that appears to have vanished off the wiki)

[Saegrimr]

It's been a long standing thing where people get banned if they specifically go and shit up other servers. I could've sworn we used to have some written down rule about it somewhere on the wiki, but da rules have gone through so many changes that I don't think it's on there any more. (Didn't it use to be in the admin decisions log? Though that appears to have vanished off the wiki)

Don't think it was actually stated word for word about raids, because that should be common sense (hah), but yes there was a point where about 10 people all got banned here for raiding vorestation. I don't care how fucked up someone's fetish is, just leave em alone. You don't want them coming over HERE, do you?

[Vekter]

Rule 1 or 0, take your pick. We've always banned for raiding other servers and bragging about it in OOC. Don't shit up other servers.

[Stickymayhem]

Wow you're really an idiot. Your justification is you got peer pressured? Are you 12?

This ban can stick.

My justificaton is that you're using the rule don't be a dick when I wasn't being a dick to anyone in the server

That's retarded you can't lawyer out of this.

Please don't come back.

[Ahammer18]

Topic locked, in the progress of being moved.