[NoxVS] - Milthy - Okay with RR Sec grief

[Milthy]

This happened on Manuel on July 3rd, around 11:04ish Central time.
Milthy, Hudson Jett
NoxVS
ROUND ID HERE IF APPLICABLE: 253832
Detailed summary:
I chose to play as prisoner. I was fucking around, making sand doors with the tramstation sand prison. Later in the round, Jeff Gaiman starting taking all of the prison metal and stuff, so we all called him a pig and stuff (in character.) Then, I built a single wall infront of the door to mess with Jeff. Instead of unwelding it, beating me, and isolating me, or even gulaging me. He shot me. Until I was dead. Then stuffed my dead body in the locker in the execution room. And then left me. For the entire round. I then message NoxVS about it. It then becomes a back and forth with him saying "It's totally fair because what if you do it again. He's justified." I'm just not understanding how THIS specific round removal is okay for something so minor, when literally all other forms of it is ABSOLUTELY not.

04:06:59: Milthy/(Hudson Jett): Bro Jeff Gaiman just round removed me for making a wall in the prison.
04:08:30: PM From NoxVS: Where was the wall?
04:08:44: Reply PM from-Milthy: Infront of the prison.
04:09:18: Reply PM from-Milthy: Like he didn't just kill me. He stuffed me in a body bag and hid it in a closet.
04:09:59: PM From NoxVS: So if you were able to build a wall outside perma had you escaped?
04:10:21: Reply PM from-Milthy: No I didn't escape, I was still in perma. It was IN perma. By the door.
04:12:09: PM From NoxVS: What spot was it? Hover there as a ghost
04:12:29: Reply PM from-Milthy: Here
04:15:01: PM From NoxVS: Honestly if you're walling the only way for sec to bring prisoners into the brig and you're already at the second worst possible punishment it's hard to take issue with them just killing you for it. There's not really any other punishment they can give
04:15:42: Reply PM from-Milthy: Uh yeah they can lavaland me. Or like, kill me and bring me back. Or Isolate me for 5 minutes. Round removal is insane for something so minor.
04:18:05: Reply PM from-Milthy: I mean like why am I being taken out of the game permanently when I haven't done anything major.
04:22:04: PM From NoxVS: I mean if your crime is sabotaging the area they're holding you then it feels absurd to not think you're just going to do it again. I don't really see anything wrong with this. So any situation where you would be returned to perma doesn't make sense, if they send you to the gulag there's a risk they can't send anyone else there ever again.
04:23:20: Reply PM from-Milthy: That's totally unfair. I made ONE wall and I get completely kicked out of the game for it. No trial, no jail time, no nothing. Think about it from my perspective. I make ONE wall. I then get shot and killed without even a word. And now I don't get to enjoy the game.
04:24:09: PM From NoxVS: It's not making one wall, it's making one wall in the doorway to perma that prisoners are brought into, rendering perma (which also serves as the entire brig as a whole) unusable.
04:24:42: Reply PM from-Milthy: Literally all they had to do was unweld it. Which they did. And then shot me to death.
04:26:36: PM From NoxVS: and what's stopping you from just making another once they leave
04:27:17: Reply PM from-Milthy: Literally nothing and if I had then MAYBE that's justification of round removing me. But they didn't even tell me to stop. They just fucking gunned me down. It's not cool.
04:30:57: PM From NoxVS: I just think if you do something that makes them regret having confined you instead of just executing you then it makes sense for them to execute you. You were already in perma, I can't really think of a situation where perma is justifiable but execution never is.
04:31:56: Reply PM from-Milthy: Execution is used on things like mass murder and shit. I built a wall blocking the prison that was easily fixed. A simple gulag or just yelling at me and beating me up would've been nice. Not being round removed for something so minor.
04:38:42: PM From NoxVS: It would be absurd to kill over it if that was all that happened but you're already in perma. You are a perma prisoner.
04:38:59: Reply PM from-Milthy: Yeah but that doesn't justify round removing me for a wall.
04:39:57: PM From NoxVS: I think it does. Killing you is preferable to repeatedly losing functionality of the entire prison system
04:40:16: Reply PM from-Milthy: But it wasn't repeatedly. It was one time.
04:44:17: PM From NoxVS: I'm saying repeatedly because there's nothing stopping you from just doing it again and there's no punishment that wont just put you back in the exact same place.
04:44:40: Reply PM from-Milthy: But I wasn't gonna do it again. And they could've stopped me by sending me to Lavaland.
04:45:28: PM From NoxVS: Where you can also just do it, stopping them from using lavaland. Overall I think I've said all I have to say on this, I don't intend to change my mind.
04:46:06: Reply PM from-Milthy: Dude what the fuck. I literally was only gonna do it once. I just wanna play after a long ass day at work.
04:48:45: PM From NoxVS: There's always next round.
04:49:09: Reply PM from-Milthy: Dude its been almost an hour. Why the fuck is this allowed? This is really fucking messed up.
04:54:24: Reply PM from-Milthy: Look, I get having to stick with the popular people and all that, but it's been so long that I've lost all chances to contribute anything to the round, even spawner roles. It's just really disheartening to get home, try and play a few rounds, and get round removed over something so simple.
04:55:33: PM From NoxVS: Because you're doing something with really no benefit to you that serves no purpose except to irritate sec. Once again, you are putting the ability to use either the gulag or prison as a whole at risk for no reason. I have 0 interest in sticking wit hthe popular people. You're saying you just want to play the round, I'm wanting to make sure security is able to do the same.
04:56:22: Reply PM from-Milthy: What risk is there. There is literally 0 risk. I was making a wall. One time. They should've checked to see if I was gonna do it again. THEN murk me. But they just shot me first chance they got.
04:57:16: Reply PM from-Milthy: PLUS theres so much more shit sec can do even if I did wall off the prison. Not to mention just THROWING prisoners into the prison, they can go do other shit away from it. It was ONE time and they didn't even confirm if I was doing it again. No nothing.
04:59:28: PM From NoxVS: I've said all I have to say, I don't intend to change my mind, you are free to open an admin complaint if you disagree.
04:59:38: Reply PM from-Milthy: Dude.