[Dunham] xzero314- Security Meta Protections not upheld.

[xzero314]

Manuel Round 250085
xzero314(Barry Brittle)
Dunham


The Summary of this is I think Dunham did not do that great a job enforcing the rules in a ticket I made yesterday in round 250085 on Manuel.

So the story goes:
I was on my Security Officer character Barry Brittle. I asked an assistant that was surrounded by a gang of other assistants in medbay to pay their fine of 50 credits for breaking into tech storage prior.
The assistant responded to me by tossing me into the wall a few times while their gang surrounded me. This was against the rules on responding to arrests I believe. This encounter ends with the assistant walking away. I call for back up to make another attempt and go add assault of an officer to the list of crimes.
I and the now gathered sec team encounter the assistant again but without their gang about a minute later in the bar. The assistant gets in a fight with the chef then goes down disposals. We chase him to cargo then disposals.

Some of the gang then show up in disposals to help him out while we are trying to arrest him. I think they were breaking rule 2 given this was a valid arrest. "Character friendships should not be exploitative in nature or be used to gain an unfair advantage. Having an IC friendship with another player does not, for example, justify giving them all-access each round."

Story Ends

I don't think the assistant that attacked me despite sec meta protections was bwoinked about this incident which is why I think security meta protections were not being upheld. It seems like Dunham was told by one of the friend gang it was a wordless arrest and assumed that to be true based on the responses I got in the ticket.

I am also not sure if any action was taken against their gang of friends.
The reason why I think this is an issue is this reaction from the assistant and their gang should not have passed even on LRP.
I think cases like this are a contributor to the issues we have on Manuel with seeing too many lethals in arrests by security due to having to deal with large gangs of assistants.

Relevant info is that during the initial confrontation in Medbay when I asked The assistant to pay their fine, the friends did not attack only surrounded. Then later on in disposals the friends were unable to make any attacks as they were subdued first. But it made the scenario very difficult as there was now three people to arrest and not one. So if log diving this case you will not see any attacks against myself in med expect the ones made by the main assistant. Nor during the final confrontation in disposals against myself or the other officer in disposals from the hovering gang of assistants because they couldn't make any. Only getting in the way. If this is relevant to how Dunham ruled against the gang of friends I can understand even if I disagree. But I still believe the main offending assistant here should have been spoken to.

[Dunham]

I talked to both of the people interfering with the arrest, one of them said they were just tagging along and based on what I saw in the logs I believed it to be true. The other one I did talk to extensively about not interfering with arrests since they were there when the assistant threw you against the wall. I do admit I didn't talk to the assistant because I chalked it up to be IC but I did talk to the others

[xzero314]

Thanks for the Reply. Thinking back I believe it is also part due to the wording of my ahelp. It was more directed at the interferes than the main instigating assistant. I also remember one of my ahelps getting cut off for yapping too much and hitting the character limit. I dont want to see anything done to you about this I just wasn't sure how to bring up the discussion, which it did do. So I think we can close this down unless a headmin wants to chime in about any details.

[Timberpoes]

Just gonna drag comments from the headmin ivory tower on Discord to resolve this one.

Complaint not upheld.

Omega: Close, both parties are happy with the resolution.
Xzero recognizes their ahelp wasn't made well and that Dunham acted in good faith, Dunham acknowledges their mistake in failing to question everyone involved. Nobody acted in bad faith and healthy discussion was had.

Timberpoes: Don't care, baby drama. Parties resolved it, see no need to get involved.