[Iansdoor] H3skan - note inaccuracy

Heskan · Post by **Heskan** » Tue Jan 07, 2025 5:50 pm #769963

BYOND account: H3skan

Ban/note type (Server Ban/Discord Ban/Forum Ban/Note): Note

Ban/note duration: n.a.
Ban/note reason: As non-antag CE. Setup a emagged recycler with railings and shower curtains with the ad of "free ERP". Security took this down and in petty revenge, decided to place HFR hidden in detectives office that added lethal rads to a good chuck of brig. Has been talked about not seeing either again.
Time ban was placed: 2024-04-05 15:08:41
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 226701

Why are you making this appeal? (Put an x in the boxes):
(X) - The ban/note is factually incorrect
() - The ban/note is not against the rules
(X) - The ban/note needs modification
() - The ban was unjustifiably harsh
() - I was permabanned and I want another chance

Why should this appeal be accepted?:
The first half about me setting up the recycler and writing the text is false. I was somewhat protecting it from deconstruction because I found it funny, but I didn't set it up to begin with. That's pretty easy to prove considering I wasn't an antag so I had no access to an EMAG to begin with. The radiation being lethal is an overstatement, but it did contaminate an area which I didn't mean to so that's fine. I'd just like this changed because the first half leaves a not so great impression.

Post by **Vekter** » Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:57 pm #769975

Hey, gamer. Ians retired a bit ago so I can take over on this.

I can't realistically fact-check you on this, though I'll honestly say that you turning around and building an HFR near brig is bad enough anyway so I don't care about editing the note. How's this sound?

Prevented people from dismantling an emagged recycler someone had set up hidden with shower curtains and an ad for "free ERP". When Security took it down, decided to place an HFR hidden in the Detective's office which spread rads to a good chunk of the brig. Has been talked to about acting like an antagonist when not playing an antagonist role.

Post by **iansdoor** » Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:22 pm #769996

I am still to watch my mother doing chemotherapy.

that is an old note, but I do have a picture of you and HFR. That seems to be petty revenge on your part for detective doing their job.

: Ara after the ERP Emag was taken down

Post by **iansdoor** » Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:47 pm #769999

The first half about me setting up the recycler and writing the text is false. I was somewhat protecting it from deconstruction because I found it funny, but I didn't set it up to begin with. That's pretty easy to prove considering I wasn't an antag so I had no access to an EMAG to begin with. The radiation being lethal is an overstatement, but it did contaminate an area which I didn't mean to so that's fine. I'd just like this changed because the first half leaves a not so great impression.

I have the logs from that round at the time of my note investigation. What about the note is inaccurate to you?

[2024-04-05 14:26:59.783] ATTACK: Chimpston/(Gay Johnson) (mob_3418) attempted to emag [recycler] (Central Primary Hallway (108,116,2))
[2024-04-05 14:30:11.217] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "noo" (Central Primary Hallway (105,116,2))
[2024-04-05 14:30:13.110] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "leave it" (Central Primary Hallway (105,116,2))
[2024-04-05 14:30:27.082] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "stop" (Aft Primary Hallway (106,112,2))
[2024-04-05 14:30:27.908] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "ill" (Aft Primary Hallway (106,112,2))
[2024-04-05 14:30:29.136] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "secure it" (Aft Primary Hallway (106,112,2))
[2024-04-05 14:31:38.583] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "ill put" (Central Primary Hallway (106,113,2))
[2024-04-05 14:31:42.114] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "another conveyor below it" (Central Primary Hallway (106,114,2))
[2024-04-05 14:31:44.256] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "to get people out" (Central Primary Hallway (106,114,2))
[2024-04-05 14:31:46.765] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "no no" (Central Primary Hallway (106,113,2))
[2024-04-05 14:31:47.825] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "its safe" (Central Primary Hallway (106,113,2))
[2024-04-05 14:32:45.660] GAME-EMOTE: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) points at the conveyor belt assembly (Central Primary Hallway (105,113,2))
[2024-04-05 14:32:45.827] GAME-EMOTE: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) points at the conveyor belt assembly (Central Primary Hallway (105,113,2))
[2024-04-05 14:32:46.062] GAME-EMOTE: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) points at the conveyor belt assembly (Central Primary Hallway (105,113,2))
[2024-04-05 14:35:28.322] GAME-EMOTE: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) points at the floor (Medbay Central (88,102,2))
[2024-04-05 14:35:28.536] GAME-EMOTE: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) points at Anton Chehov (Medbay Central (88,102,2))
[2024-04-05 14:36:01.233] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "its safe" (Central Primary Hallway (110,114,2))
[2024-04-05 14:36:06.836] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "es" (Central Primary Hallway (105,114,2))
[2024-04-05 14:36:08.064] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "yes" (Central Primary Hallway (105,114,2))
[2024-04-05 14:36:12.189] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "why" (Central Primary Hallway (107,114,2))
[2024-04-05 14:36:14.792] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "its literally" (Central Primary Hallway (106,115,2))
[2024-04-05 14:36:15.549] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "safe" (Central Primary Hallway (106,115,2))
[2024-04-05 14:36:32.387] GAME-EMOTE: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) screeches! (Central Primary Hallway (105,114,2))
[2024-04-05 14:36:54.034] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "i shoved the det for being a buzzkill" (Central Primary Hallway (100,115,2))
[2024-04-05 14:37:10.257] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "i know shove combat" (Central Primary Hallway (99,115,2))
[2024-04-05 14:37:20.825] GAME-SAY: H3skan/(Arar 'Makita' Dreizehn) (mob_3396) "det got robusted" (Central Primary Hallway (101,115,2))

Attack logs between you two.
He notices the emagged recycler under a shower curtain with the words ERP room and a belt that led into the machine and destroyed it, cause its his job.
You as the CE made a death trap for that round and petty revenged security with HFR and your free power tools to break into his office to do so.

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Game logs from that round

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Heskan · Post by **Heskan** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:47 pm #770101

As I wrote in my appeal, the inaccuracy is the part about me building the thing, not just defending it. I never made the death trap, just modified it by adding a conveyor below the recycler that removes the corpses of those who entered it. I wanted to make it safer by also removing the courtains that obscured it and keep it around, but it got deconstructed before I could do so. I saw it, found it funny but wanted to make it safer, saw the det beating it, tried to convince him to let me make it safer, thing got destroyed, I found it funny to get back at him by putting an HFR in his office, radiation leaked more than I wanted it to.
The logs should show that I never constructed it, and what I said confirms my claim that I meant for this to be turned from a death trap into a "have fun consentually shredding yourself" thing.

The change proposed by Vekter sounds good, though I genuinly didn't mean to act like an antagonist. I didn't act in malice, the det and I just had some fun banter that I wanted to play into and simply miscalculated the amount of radiation the HFR would make, walling it off once I noticed the leak and bringing sec a lifetime supply of rad meds. As far as I recall, nobody got seriously hurt.
I feel like this is less about self antagging and more about being more reasonable with dangerous stuff like the HFR in areas that aren't meant for it.

Post by **Vekter** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:47 pm #770116

Heskan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:47 pm The change proposed by Vekter sounds good, though I genuinly didn't mean to act like an antagonist. I didn't act in malice, the det and I just had some fun banter that I wanted to play into and simply miscalculated the amount of radiation the HFR would make, walling it off once I noticed the leak and bringing sec a lifetime supply of rad meds. As far as I recall, nobody got seriously hurt.
I feel like this is less about self antagging and more about being more reasonable with dangerous stuff like the HFR in areas that aren't meant for it.

I understand that you didn't intend to act like an antagonist, but you did. It's clear that you intended to put the HFR where you did in revenge for the Detective destroying the death trap, which means that part of things is very much relevant to the note at hand.

If all you did was build an HFR in a weird place that ended up having a negative impact on others, this would be a note about that. The fact that you were actively trying to prevent the death trap from being dismantled, then went to build the HFR in the Detective's office as revenge means that this becomes more of an issue of taking actions that are antagonistic in nature as a non-antagonist.

Heskan · Post by **Heskan** » Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:45 pm #770131

Yeah I get it, it just wasn't mean spirited, that's all.
Again, I'm fine with the proposed note change.

Post by **Vekter** » Thu Jan 09, 2025 2:55 am #770209

Okay I fixed the note thank you have a good evening

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