[wineallwine] Lwd_f4d - Permanent ban for publicly sharing a build vulnerability/exploit

[l4dfwd]

BYOND account: Lwd_f4d

Ban/note type (Server Ban/Discord Ban/Forum Ban/Note): Server Ban

Ban/note duration: Permanent ban
Ban/note reason: "In round 241625 spoke about an exploit and tried to get others to do it with him. At a 9 hour player this seem like you're either an evader, an exploiter or an idiot and we don't want any of those here."
Time ban was placed: 2024-11-08 19:58:12
Server you were playing on when banned: /tg/Station - Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 241625

Why are you making this appeal? (Put an x in the boxes):
() - The ban/note is factually incorrect
() - The ban/note is not against the rules
() - The ban/note needs modification
() - The ban was unjustifiably harsh
(x) - I was permabanned and I want another chance

Why should this appeal be accepted?:

Hello, I realize that I have compromised the servers of your build and I apologize for that. This exploit does allow you to disrupt the station every round, without any preparation. I found it on a third-party build based on yours and assumed it works for you as well, since the same items and components are used.

I wanted to share this problem with your community, as I have previously done with Lavaland, invulnerability and the like. I realize that this may have caused a great deal of damage to all BYOND servers based on your build and I am sorry for that.

Also, this is my only BYOND hub account and my first permanent ban at all. I do have few hours on your servers, however I play mostly on your build. I have no hostile intentions towards you and your servers.

[iamgoofball]

The correct place to file bug reports is here:

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/ ... t_form.yml

[WineAllWine]

Hi,

Just to let you know I've seen this. I've been having some technical problems connecting to the server but I'll deal with this Soon™

[WineAllWine]

Sorry about the delay. tl;dr I'm reducing this ban to a week.

Firstly, I got the round wrong, it wasn't #241625 it was #241622.

Now, here are some of your say logs from the round. All logs are your say logs only.

Part 1.
Trying to get supporters in dead chat

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[2024-11-08 19:11:25.543] GAME-SAY: Lwd_f4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_3805) (DEAD) "Guys, I think I found a way to spawn endless antags in any mode and at any time, with any online" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (156,148,2))
[2024-11-08 19:11:38.775] GAME-SAY: Lwd_f4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_3805) (DEAD) "You can SPAWN ANY ANTAG" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (156,148,2))
[2024-11-08 19:12:00.841] GAME-SAY: Lwd_f4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_3805) (DEAD) "want to grief station?" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (157,149,2))
[2024-11-08 19:12:15.222] GAME-SAY: Lwd_f4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_3805) (DEAD) "i can show gow" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (158,149,2))
[2024-11-08 19:13:00.650] GAME-SAY: Lwd_f4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_3805) (DEAD) "follow me to DM and listen" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (163,149,2))
[2024-11-08 19:13:05.162] GAME-SAY: Lwd_f4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_3805) (DEAD) "okay?" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (163,149,2))
[2024-11-08 19:13:06.900] GAME: lwdf4d created a deathmatch lobby.
[2024-11-08 19:13:21.673] GAME-SAY: Lwd_f4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_3805) (DEAD) "no DM" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (162,149,2))
[2024-11-08 19:13:28.297] GAME-SAY: Lwd_f4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_3805) (DEAD) "only TP to station" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (162,149,2))
[2024-11-08 19:13:33.140] GAME-SAY: Lwd_f4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_3805) (DEAD) "and grief" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (162,149,2))
[2024-11-08 19:13:35.557] GAME-SAY: Lwd_f4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_3805) (DEAD) "or kick" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (162,149,2))
[2024-11-08 19:13:52.286] GAME-SAY: Lwd_f4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_3805) (DEAD) "choose scriber" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (162,149,2))
[2024-11-08 19:13:56.896] GAME-SAY: Lwd_f4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_3805) (DEAD) "who wants to see" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (162,149,2))

If I squint I can see you maybe trying to report this as a bug?

Part 2
In the Deathmatch.

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[2024-11-08 19:17:37.849] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "if foind way to TP on statiob" (Deathmatch Arena (35,211,13))
[2024-11-08 19:17:41.088] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "and grief" (Deathmatch Arena (35,211,13))
[2024-11-08 19:17:47.863] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "for eretic" (Deathmatch Arena (35,211,13))
[2024-11-08 19:17:51.968] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "yes" (Deathmatch Arena (35,211,13))
[2024-11-08 19:18:01.139] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "wants go to station?" (Deathmatch Arena (35,211,13))
[2024-11-08 19:18:35.189] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) has passed the soft filter for "antag" they may be using a disallowed term. Message: "you can endless antag tokens"
[2024-11-08 19:18:35.190] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "you can endless antag tokens" (Deathmatch Arena (30,213,13))
[2024-11-08 19:18:37.602] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "aall" (Deathmatch Arena (30,213,13))
[2024-11-08 19:18:40.450] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "at all" (Deathmatch Arena (30,213,13))
[2024-11-08 19:18:46.717] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) has passed the soft filter for "antag" they may be using a disallowed term. Message: "any antag"
[2024-11-08 19:18:46.718] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "any antag" (Deathmatch Arena (30,214,13))
[2024-11-08 19:18:59.155] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "just role dev room" (Deathmatch Arena (30,214,13))
[2024-11-08 19:19:03.639] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "TP tp dev room" (Deathmatch Arena (30,214,13))
[2024-11-08 19:19:06.996] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "and go to ladder" (Deathmatch Arena (30,214,13))
[2024-11-08 19:19:13.154] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "you spawn on statiob" (Deathmatch Arena (30,214,13))
[2024-11-08 19:19:19.879] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "i found this bug today" (Deathmatch Arena (30,214,13))
[2024-11-08 19:19:22.816] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "so" (Deathmatch Arena (30,214,13))
[2024-11-08 19:19:33.486] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "NOW KILL ALL STATION CREW!" (Deathmatch Arena (30,214,13))
[2024-11-08 19:19:50.068] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "you can kill your inround killer" (Deathmatch Arena (30,214,13))
[2024-11-08 19:19:54.299] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "for example" (Deathmatch Arena (30,214,13))
[2024-11-08 19:19:58.869] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "traitoru" (Deathmatch Arena (30,214,13))
[2024-11-08 19:20:01.362] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "as nukie" (Deathmatch Arena (30,214,13))
[2024-11-08 19:20:34.958] GAME-COMPAT: ADMIN: Wineallwine/(Aldrich Kemp) checked the individual player panel for lwdf4d/(Kyler Black). [Who's this handsome fellow?]
[2024-11-08 19:20:54.832] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "I don't really understand how it works, but it's related to this class" (Deathmatch Arena (30,215,13))
[2024-11-08 19:20:57.039] GAME-WHISPER: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "BR'NG F'RTH TH'M T' M'." FORCED by spell (Void Pull) (Deathmatch Arena (30,215,13))
[2024-11-08 19:20:59.764] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "R'T'T'`ST'R!" FORCED by spell (Star Blast) (Deathmatch Arena (31,217,13))
[2024-11-08 19:21:14.278] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "нуы" (Deathmatch Arena (32,216,13))
[2024-11-08 19:21:16.739] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "yes" (Deathmatch Arena (32,216,13))
[2024-11-08 19:21:32.337] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "with your rifle" (Deathmatch Arena (32,216,13))
[2024-11-08 19:22:05.315] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "see" (Deathmatch Arena (31,217,13))
[2024-11-08 19:22:09.133] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "shot at me" (Deathmatch Arena (32,217,13))
[2024-11-08 19:22:11.055] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "try" (Deathmatch Arena (32,217,13))
[2024-11-08 19:22:25.901] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "you need to Tp at dev room" (Deathmatch Arena (32,217,13))
[2024-11-08 19:22:58.733] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "shot at me" (Deathmatch Arena (30,214,13))
[2024-11-08 19:23:12.623] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "again" (Deathmatch Arena (28,215,13))
[2024-11-08 19:23:25.545] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "hm" (Deathmatch Arena (28,213,13))
[2024-11-08 19:23:39.493] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "there be a change to TP at dev room" (Deathmatch Arena (28,213,13))
[2024-11-08 19:23:57.182] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "again" (Deathmatch Arena (29,214,13))
[2024-11-08 19:24:09.587] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "shot" (Deathmatch Arena (29,212,13))
[2024-11-08 19:24:44.531] GAME-WHISPER: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "BR'NG`F'RTH`TH'M`T'`M'." FORCED by spell (Void Pull) (Deathmatch Arena (30,222,13))
[2024-11-08 19:25:34.037] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "so i need to go" (Deathmatch Arena (30,214,13))
[2024-11-08 19:25:39.649] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "you can try" (Deathmatch Arena (30,214,13))
[2024-11-08 19:25:41.567] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "it" (Deathmatch Arena (30,214,13))
[2024-11-08 19:25:50.031] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "try to tp at dev rom" (Deathmatch Arena (30,214,13))
[2024-11-08 19:25:55.243] GAME-SAY: lwdf4d/(Kyler Black) (mob_4004) "and go to ladder" (Deathmatch Arena (30,214,13))

Here, not only do you sort of try and get someone else to exploit a bug (which neither of you managed), you also talked about how a user might exploit this bug to their advantage, by ""you can kill your inround killer"", "and grief", " "NOW KILL ALL STATION CREW!""

These are not the words of someone trying to report a bug, they are the words of someone trying to exploit a bug (or at least, get someone else to.)

For the avoidance of doubt, if you did want to report a bug you can follow the link given by goof above, or you can press F1 and talk to an admin.

I've decided to reduce this ban to a week. When your ban is expired, please don't think about exploiting bugs here again.

[l4dfwd]

Okay, I'll keep that in mind. My words were more of a misplaced joke, I wouldn't have griffed anyway.
Thanks for yours, have a good day.