How should Canada retaliate for the US pulling out of the Keystone deal?

Helios · Post by **Helios** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:37 pm #588223

What would be a reasonable retalitation for pulling out of a deal that cost tens of thousands of Canadians jobs, and negatively effected our economy.
Would pulling out of a defensive arrangement like NORAD be reasonable? Or pulling out of a trade deal?

Horza · Post by **Horza** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:47 pm #588224

The fact that you think Trudeau would ever retaliate for a move which fucked over Alberta and Saskatchewan is laughable. Doubly so when it's a move by Joe Biden ostensibly to combat climate change.

Helios · Post by **Helios** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:15 pm #588226

Horza wrote:The fact that you think Trudeau would ever retaliate for a move which fucked over Alberta and Saskatchewan is laughable. Doubly so when it's a move by Joe Biden ostensibly to combat climate change.

It fucked over Canada. When people fuck you over, you should retaliate in turn

bobbahbrown · Post by **bobbahbrown** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:18 pm #588227

oil sands are disastrous for the environment, US is doing us a favor

pulling out of norad sounds like a suggestion from a commie
suggesting pulling out of a trade deal after just claiming to care about the economy even more so...

gonna need to see proof of citizenship... csis has already been alerted...

Super Aggro Crag · Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:35 pm

"dude wtf they elected a democrat and he immediately set about destroying people's livelihoods?????"

IkeTG · Post by **IkeTG** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:57 pm #588231

Helios wrote:Or pulling out of a trade deal?

lmao

Rohen_Tahir · Post by **Rohen_Tahir** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:28 pm #588234

Helios wrote:
Horza wrote:The fact that you think Trudeau would ever retaliate for a move which fucked over Alberta and Saskatchewan is laughable. Doubly so when it's a move by Joe Biden ostensibly to combat climate change.
It fucked over Canada. When people fuck you over, you should retaliate in turn

Politicians don't care about you.

thehogshotgun · Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:35 pm

Helios wrote:What would be a reasonable retalitation for pulling out of a deal that cost tens of thousands of Canadians jobs, and negatively effected our economy.
Would pulling out of a defensive arrangement like NORAD be reasonable? Or pulling out of a trade deal?

I don't think we would be losing much with Canada pulling out of NORAD

Post by **MMMiracles** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:38 pm #588237

Super Aggro Crag wrote:"dude wtf they elected a democrat and he immediately set about destroying people's livelihoods?????"

have you ever worked as a tradesman or talked to one?

these people literally work project to project, constantly moving between sites, usually paid by their union to stay at a hotel for the job's duration and then move on to the next.

most of these people are probably going to either just file for unemployment and wait about a week or two before they're assigned a new site to work at. the only 'livelihoods' this will fuck over are the CEOs who were dumb enough to go ahead with it when obama already denied it during his presidency and assumed republicans could keep someone in office after trump.

Tlaltecuhtli · Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:27 pm

offer oil to china

Post by **Armhulen** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:28 pm #588240

Keystone pipeline 4000 jobs, 35 when completed. keystone pipeline's company that is creating it does not contest this

not worth trampling all the native american land you have no right to, and certainly not worth the environmental costs

XivilaiAnaxes · Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:55 pm

Man what is it with you and your bizarre political takes? Like bruh did you really just say "Maybe the Canadians should pull out of NORAD"???? Like seriously dude, what the fuck?

Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:49 pm

they should retaliate by giving money to me specifically via my bitcoin wallet address which can be found at asdf09u120fijidjowoaifj12980fjidof

Farquaar · Post by **Farquaar** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:56 pm #588255

Armhulen wrote:not worth trampling all the native american land you have no right to, and certainly not worth the environmental costs

The aboriginal issue is a bit more complex than that.

A large contingent of aboriginal people (at least in Canada) support pipelines. There were a number of op-eds written last year by Wet’suwet’en chiefs complaining that the Coastal GasLink issue was being framed as “natives hate pipelines”, when in reality most aboriginal people don’t mind infrastructure development if it’s done responsibly.

TL;DR it’s more complicated than “natives vs. big oil”

Farquaar · Post by **Farquaar** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:14 am #588256

Also, if Trump played hardball with Canada for the past 4 years while Trudeau sat on his thumb, I don’t think we’ll be seeing anything crazy or drastic like you’re suggesting, Helios.

Canada is still America’s hat.

thehogshotgun · Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:52 am

Farquaar wrote:Canada is still America’s hat.

Canada is our FUCKING BITCH

bobbahbrown · Post by **bobbahbrown** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:19 am #588266

thehogshotgun wrote:
Farquaar wrote:Canada is still America’s hat.
Canada is our FUCKING BITCH

please keep hornyposting out of the off topic forum

big smiles,
bobbah 'bee' brown

cacogen · Post by **cacogen** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:02 am #588267

Justin Trudeau visit sans cosplay. Just him. No costume.

Helios · Post by **Helios** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:49 pm #588319

bobbahbrown wrote:oil sands are disastrous for the environment, US is doing us a favor

pulling out of norad sounds like a suggestion from a commie
suggesting pulling out of a trade deal after just claiming to care about the economy even more so...

gonna need to see proof of citizenship... csis has already been alerted...

Suggesting we do nothing to retaliate makes you sound like you're south of the border.
Reason I brought up NORAD is because since 1984, Canada has been disarmed from nuclear weapons. American military ships docked in vancouver and other ports have nuclear capabilities. The entire controversy started because of nuclear weapons used by the air force.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_an ... _armaments
Withdrawing or changing the agreement so Americans can't use nukes on Canadian soil seems reasonable.
If you have a more reasonable retaliation, let me know. The entire point of this thread was asking suggestions

Flatulent · Post by **Flatulent** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:10 pm #588329

declare war and deploy chemical weapons

Timonk · Post by **Timonk** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:32 pm #588337

Super Aggro Crag wrote:"dude wtf they elected a democrat and he immediately set about destroying people's livelihoods?????"

"dude wtf they elected a Democrat and he immediately set out about not destroying the environment and not contributing to the fact that the earth is slowly dying and that the US is one of the biggest contributors?????"

Tlaltecuhtli · Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:37 pm

> earth is slowly

bro the animals are gonna just evolve and survive the enviroment, we dont have to give them welfare and private property

Post by **Armhulen** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:23 pm #588340

Tlaltecuhtli wrote:> earth is slowly

bro the animals are gonna just evolve and survive the enviroment, we dont have to give them welfare and private property

This is what atheists believe, guys join your local church

XivilaiAnaxes · Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:38 pm

I'm not sure how to tell you this Helios, but you sesame seeds dont have Hammurabi in charge. Justin Trudeau isn't going to begin a long path of vengeance leading to the deaths of everyone on the continent - he's going to be a good little dog and do nothing at all. Maybe a couple Canadians will write it in their book of grudges to be snarky with at a later date but nothing is going to happen.

IkeTG · Post by **IkeTG** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:55 pm #588343

Helios wrote: Suggesting we do nothing to retaliate makes you sound like you're south of the border.

this is what bad canadians say, you should be better

Horza · Post by **Horza** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:37 am #588356

Timonk wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:"dude wtf they elected a democrat and he immediately set about destroying people's livelihoods?????"
"dude wtf they elected a Democrat and he immediately set out about not destroying the environment and not contributing to the fact that the earth is slowly dying and that the US is one of the biggest contributors?????"

I agree, importing oil from countries with no meaningful environmental controls, no meaningful human rights policies, controlled by outright authoritarian governments, literally using slave labor, is always better.

Timonk · Post by **Timonk** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:10 am #588366

The US would do that even with the pipeline

DrPillzRedux · Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:22 am

Horza · Post by **Horza** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:38 am #588369

Timonk wrote:The US would do that even with the pipeline

Let's implode the entire economy of the protectorate to the north of us in order to get overpriced and unethical oil from horrifically authoritarian and murderous regimes halfway across the world.
What's that? Oil tankers burn heavy unrefined oil and more than offset the carbon savings from not buying it next door?

Nah, let's throw more homosexuals off rooftops. Gotta keep that oil under $3/gallon at all costs.

Timonk · Post by **Timonk** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:50 am #588372

If your economy depends on building a huge nature destroying pipeline across half of north America then your economy is fucked either way

Horza · Post by **Horza** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:55 am #588375

Timonk wrote:If your economy depends on building a huge nature destroying pipeline across half of north America then your economy is fucked either way

I too agree that the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Stickymayhem · Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:37 am

DrPillzRedux wrote:

or uhhh

renewable energy?

The kind that creates permanent jobs, endless energy and sets the US up to be geopolitically relevant in the face of chinese renewable expansion across developing nations?

Rohen_Tahir · Post by **Rohen_Tahir** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:41 am #588382

Stickymayhem wrote:
DrPillzRedux wrote:
or uhhh

renewable energy?

The kind that creates permanent jobs, endless energy and sets the US up to be geopolitically relevant in the face of chinese renewable expansion across developing nations?

But that's not what lobbyists pay the people in the US govt for.

cacogen · Post by **cacogen** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:56 am #588391

Horza wrote:
Timonk wrote:If your economy depends on building a huge nature destroying pipeline across half of north America then your economy is fucked either way
I too agree that the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Reading this taught me things, even if it signals right-wing edgelord

Helios · Post by **Helios** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:09 am #588605

XivilaiAnaxes wrote:I'm not sure how to tell you this Helios, but you sesame seeds dont have Hammurabi in charge. Justin Trudeau isn't going to begin a long path of vengeance leading to the deaths of everyone on the continent - he's going to be a good little dog and do nothing at all. Maybe a couple Canadians will write it in their book of grudges to be snarky with at a later date but nothing is going to happen.

I asked how should Canada react, not how will Canada react.
2 different questions.

Timonk · Post by **Timonk** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:09 am #588612

They should be happy that the US came to their senses

cacogen · Post by **cacogen** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:14 am #588616

Rationalism not idealism

wesoda25 · Post by **wesoda25** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:25 am #588621

Could someone redpill me on american politics and our relations/expectations/place in global politics really quick

thehogshotgun · Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:51 pm

wesoda25 wrote:Could someone redpill me on american politics and our relations/expectations/place in global politics really quick

America #1. Also Europe would crumble into commie hell without chad American presence trust me on this

Rohen_Tahir · Post by **Rohen_Tahir** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:51 pm #588645

wesoda25 wrote:Could someone redpill me on american politics and our relations/expectations/place in global politics really quick

https://web.archive.org/web/20201101063 ... sblast.us/

cacogen · Post by **cacogen** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:27 am #588692

wesoda25 wrote:Could someone redpill me on american politics and our relations/expectations/place in global politics really quick

no but especially no one here