Doctor Brutality - Knrboys - Banishment for killing someone.

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Knrboy
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Doctor Brutality - Knrboys - Banishment for killing someone.

Post by Knrboy » #553647

BYOND account: Knrboys
Character Name: Giggles von Honkerton/Variation of the name I can't remember
Ban type: Server
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Killed mime from cream pieing them and hid the body in a cabinet. Judging by your history and your bans on other servers in such a short timespan your clearly just here to grief, you can take it somewhere else.
Time ban was placed: 2020-04-06 16:00:22
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 134061
Your side of the story: I loaded into the new round with my clown character and had begun to pick up my items from the chest when the mime pushed me over, stealing said items, pieing me, then hit me I started to attack him as he had just wasted all of my equipment and pushed me over, He began to attack back and the fight escalated in him stabbing me with a bottle and I beat him, and he died, I began to take him towards the medbay when I began to notice a crowd of security and hid the body preparing to take him out when there was nobody around, I was soon messaged by staff and banned after a small chat with the banning admin
Why you think you should be unbanned: I believe I should be unbanned, as for such a minor infraction a perminate ban is quite a lot, I killed the mime for stealing my equipment and I have from what I can infer from the rules which Ive red previously, and recently that If someone steals the person who has been robbed can instigate further attacking said players, I believe this was more than enough to instigate an attack against him, especially after he began to attack me further, I did not intentionally kill him, but only did upon him stabbing and hitting be with a bottle of nothing, I understand although this is a petty reason to attack someone that I may not have the best record but I do truly wish to play on the server, and do not intend on griefing if I wanted to grief I wouldn't be making an appeal but I truly enjoy playing TG station and do not wish to be banned for such a small incident, Im not sure if I have a large record with staff but according to my ban message I do, this isn't my intent to come across as a griefer and I Do apologize from my actions in escolating theft to murder.

My reasoning behind why I feel murdering him was not necessarily against the rules.
You may instigate conflict with another player within reason (you can't completely destroy their department, kill them unprovoked, or otherwise take them out of the round for long periods of time) but they are entitled to respond with violence. If you think it's unfair or excessive they killed you for taking their ID, consider not stealing next round.

References of good conduct: I have not played on other servers as I only play on TG, that is why I am appealing my ban.
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pugie
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Re: Doctor Brutality - Knrboys - Banishment for killing someone.

Post by pugie » #553652

The equipment in theatre is for whoever gets it first, and he creampied you. This is clearly just clowning around, yet you immediately jumped to lethally attacking him. He did not hit you as you say.

Here's the complete attack logs for this shift: https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/134 ... attack.txt

Here is the relevant logs for you fighting the mime:
Spoiler:
Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) has thrown the banana cream pie
Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) has thrown the banana cream pie
Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) has thrown the banana cream pie
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has kicked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) (NEWHP: 89.5)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has kicked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) (NEWHP: 80.5)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has kicked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) (NEWHP: 76)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has kicked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) (NEWHP: 62.5)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has kicked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) (NEWHP: 61)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has kicked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) (NEWHP: 50.5)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has kicked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) (NEWHP: 35.5)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has kicked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) (NEWHP: 32.1)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has kicked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) (NEWHP: 30.6)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has kicked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) (NEWHP: 26.1)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has kicked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) (NEWHP: 18.3)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has punched Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) (NEWHP: 16.3)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has punched Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) (NEWHP: 12.3)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has punched Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) (NEWHP: 7.3)
Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) has shoved Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) (NEWHP: 80)
This was the point that your initial conflict ended, mime didn't fight you at all except for some creampies and a single shove, you beat them to near critical condition. It's this point that the mime runs away to heal up at medbay.

You then proceeded to start fighting them again restarting a conflict that already should have finished and was on the bad side of escalation:
Spoiler:
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with pie cannon (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 67.3)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with pie cannon (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 57.3)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with pie cannon (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 47.3)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has punched Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) (NEWHP: 54.3)
Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) has attacked Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) with the bottle of nothing (NEWHP: 65)
Only after you started attacking them did they hit you with their bottle of nothing

Anyways, moving on, fight now taking place far away from medbay heading to dorms:
Spoiler:
Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) has attacked Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) with broken bottle of nothing (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 58.3)
Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with broken bottle of nothing (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 48.5)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with pie cannon (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 38.5)
Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) has attacked Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) with broken bottle of nothing (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 49.3)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with pie cannon (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 29.5)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with pie cannon (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 19.5)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with pie cannon (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 10.5)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with pie cannon (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 4)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with pie cannon (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -6)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with pie cannon (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -15.2)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with pie cannon (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -25.2)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with pie cannon (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -34.9)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with pie cannon (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -44.9)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with pie cannon (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -53.9
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with pie cannon (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -61.4)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with pie cannon (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -71.4)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with pie cannon (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -80.6)
Knrboys/(Gigglesworth) has attacked Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) with pie cannon (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -90.6)
Ardbrkygn/(Silent Succy Boi) has died (BRUTE: 207, BURN: 0, TOX: 0, OXY: 1.33333, CLONE: 0)
Ok, so far you beat mime to near critical for cream pieing you, then when they healed up you started attacking them again and killed them when they fought back. Odds are if you didn't come back again to fight them this wouldn't have even been a ban or a note, yet you came back and killed them and proceeded to attempt to fullstrip them and hide them in a dorms closet. This is explicitly not allowed on our rules page under the escalation tab, which you really should have read considering your last ban was for flashing and killing two people.
References of good conduct: I have not played on other servers as I only play on TG, that is why I am appealing my ban.
This is just a lie: https://www.yogstation.net/index.php?do ... ch=Knrboys

Considering you aren't even honest in this appeal, I'm denying this.
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Re: Doctor Brutality - Knrboys - Banishment for killing someone.

Post by BeeSting12 » #555491

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