This is why I’m asking for a vote. Let’s see how the community feels about this. No shitposts. Discussion. You have measures to prevent abuse by rotating head admins. I feel the same standard should be held for head coders/maintainers. I’m asking you to run a poll please. Let’s see how the community really feels about them.
Evidence: I’m going to start with war ops. Here’s an example of oranges trying to dictate policy/admin through the codebase: warops
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/45307
Whether it got pulled or not is irrelevant. This is an example of the 3.5 rule and really goes to show the genius of what Oranges is doing. Whether consciously manipulating or unconsciously manipulating the player base. I believe oranges writes up something like this just to GET the idea of enacting a change such as this in some percentage of the player bases mind. What is largely derided now has reached some (a small percentage) of people who now believe in what the pull request was ultimately about. It gets people to talk about it. Oranges submits it because in the future it can be used again. He knows it will fail and yet he submits it with the knowledge that if 50 people read it 5 will take it to heart. He will then submit it again further down the road those 5 will swell to 10. Then those 10 to 20 until they become the majority. The overall outcome being he will eventually get his way.
A perfect example of oranges doing this before is with cat people: https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=19965 you can see in this thread here. Another direct overreach of oranges that causes a headache for administration.
You can see here the filter was wrong. https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 43#p446943 and as you can see once appropriate filters were applied the community voted to keep. Instead of oranges accepting the result which they were largely prepared to do prior to the filter changing the vote to keep from remove. They added a new poll which was biased. Two to three options to remove and one to keep and they then dangled bait over top of the communities head by tying in the prospect of a new race to go along with removal.
Here we are yet again. Embroiled in another controversy another vote to keep or remove cat people completely. Only this time the 3% rule is in favor of both the administration and Oranges. There’s more people now who’re new and have not played with cat people that only know the game as it is without cat people being a choice. Makes it easier to enact policy change and alienate those that still play cat characters. This is called the 20/60/20 principle. It’s applicable to things like this. Yet again a compromise largely being undermined and more of the older player base being intentionally alienated. I know people who left during the first felinid removal. I know people who left during the second felinid removal. I know people who are going “what am I going to do.” during the third felinid removal.
You can also see here:
It’s a serious hot button issue for a lot of people and you can still see that it causes concern with some in the player base. How’s it even remotely okay to joke about something like that? Specifically given that there was substantial proof that there was some odd behavior with how felinid poll 2.0 was run that required felinid poll 2.5
Hotkeys. There was no reason for this. It’s created an uproar and their response has essentially been telling people to get fucked. https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... ey#p523874
“But that’s just oranges.” Is no longer acceptable.
It’s just proof that they’re actively enacting their vision for tg by removing oldfags through either taking away game mechanics they enjoy or specific races they enjoy. That’s a comment that largely would be dismissed as oranges being oranges but when you look at the actual context of changes being made you can see that it’s not purely made in jest.
There are numerous other instances in the past month pointing at his incompetence as a head coder that have had detrimental effects in game. Racist nanites. (These have yet to be completely exploited. I’ve only seen one instance where someone was charging in game credits for other races to receive the benefits of nanites.)
Anyone remember floor tiles and metal rods duping materials? It was qust’s fault but isn’t Qust largely responsible to oranges?
The reinforced window buff is fucking asinine.
Meme removal of specific maps. (A tactic to get maps removed.)
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/issues/47610
Was warned beforehand. Ignored it. The point is the list goes on and they largely go unchecked and are able to do whatever they want without the expectation of any sort of repercussions. Did you yourself not create the current administration structure to not only alleviate some of the pressure off of yourself but to also to help prevent yourself from becoming a tyrannical dick? (Things that can largely ruin online communities?)
I think there’s a larger picture being overlooked here, by a lot of people. To some this is just a game, but look at the overall larger picture. You’ve built something here that at its core forged a lot of relationships. There’s people here who’ve met other people because of commonalities found in a game. Whether it’s a pair of ears and a silly tail. Or some stupid sprites. Or admemegang. These are relationships forged by /tg/ and I see decisions Oranges is making as pushing a large group out. I’m not diminishing the newfags. But if there’s one thing I remember about board culture it’s that the newfags conformed to the oldfag ways. Not the other way around. >this isn’t a 4chinz related game anymore.
At its core it still is.
It’s obvious his goal is to ruin TG. He doesn’t play the actual game itself. He doesn’t handle criticism very well. I implore you to look into this MSO. So many of us love this community and what you’ve built only to be forced out of it by an asshole with an overinflated ego that largely does things to punish specific people in the player base he doesn’t like. There’s evidence supporting this fact. If you wish the outcome for /tg/ to be a dead one. Ignore this. Otherwise at least give us a poll so that we can see if others feel the same way.
