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Please make asking the gamemode/antags OOC in IC.

Tarchonvaagh wrote:Please make asking the gamemode/antags OOC in IC.

It is, you're supposed to word things in an IC manner.

https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Headmin_Rulings

Referencing the gamemode ICly

It's OOC in IC if you say something similar to "It's revs" but it's okay if you say "There is a revolution." Basically make it sound like you're not referencing the fact that you're in a round.

That being said enough of the times that I've ahelped it it's either not responded to or treated as an annoyance that I don't really bother anymore.

Honestly My main problem is that as soon as some idiot uses a flash, be it borg or otherwise, as long as it isn't sec or captain, and even then it, probably jokingly, happens occasionally, People are really fucking quick to yell "REVS" or a certain gamemode.

hell, In general, people tend to, on the first HINT of it being a certain gamemode from a semi-quasi reliable source (AKA NOT THE CLOWN), prepare for the shit for that gamemode like madmen. One time, as comms agent, I called myself gandalf the greytide, and said hello. people IMMEDIATELY went "WIZ WIZ WIZ" and fucking went balistic. Even though I wasn't wiz, or on the station.

Asking if its a certain mess and yelling a certain possibility as soon as it MIGHT be the case, such as someone yelling nuke ops just because a pda bomb went off, Is really fucking annoying. Sorry for the derail, but it might be on topic. Feel free to have an admin delete this post if it's too far off topic or derailing.

Reyn wrote:Honestly My main problem is that as soon as some idiot uses a flash, be it borg or otherwise, as long as it isn't sec or captain, and even then it, probably jokingly, happens occasionally, People are really fucking quick to yell "REVS" or a certain gamemode.

hell, In general, people tend to, on the first HINT of it being a certain gamemode from a semi-quasi reliable source (AKA NOT THE CLOWN), prepare for the shit for that gamemode like madmen. One time, as comms agent, I called myself gandalf the greytide, and said hello. people IMMEDIATELY went "WIZ WIZ WIZ" and fucking went balistic. Even though I wasn't wiz, or on the station.

Asking if its a certain mess and yelling a certain possibility as soon as it MIGHT be the case, such as someone yelling nuke ops just because a pda bomb went off, Is really fucking annoying. Sorry for the derail, but it might be on topic. Feel free to have an admin delete this post if it's too far off topic or derailing.

Exactly.

annoyinggreencatgirl wrote:

Tarchonvaagh wrote:Please make asking the gamemode/antags OOC in IC.

It is, you're supposed to word things in an IC manner.

https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Headmin_Rulings

Referencing the gamemode ICly

It's OOC in IC if you say something similar to "It's revs" but it's okay if you say "There is a revolution." Basically make it sound like you're not referencing the fact that you're in a round.

That being said enough of the times that I've ahelped it it's either not responded to or treated as an annoyance that I don't really bother anymore.

Most people don't bother to even TRY to word it in an IC manner.

Do we have [REDACTED]?

Actually, Not entirely policy related, But it's gotten to a point of meta where pretending to be another antag type can cause the crew to go nuts. On the flipside, people often just ASSUME revs if the greytide or most of the station get into a fucking civil war with the rest of the crew. That happened this month, It was not revs, and people were breaking in, killing eahother, killing sec, breaking into brig and armoury... Jesus christ.

Reyn wrote:Honestly My main problem is that as soon as some idiot uses a flash, be it borg or otherwise, as long as it isn't sec or captain, and even then it, probably jokingly, happens occasionally, People are really fucking quick to yell "REVS" or a certain gamemode.

hell, In general, people tend to, on the first HINT of it being a certain gamemode from a semi-quasi reliable source (AKA NOT THE CLOWN), prepare for the shit for that gamemode like madmen. One time, as comms agent, I called myself gandalf the greytide, and said hello. people IMMEDIATELY went "WIZ WIZ WIZ" and fucking went balistic. Even though I wasn't wiz, or on the station.

Asking if its a certain mess and yelling a certain possibility as soon as it MIGHT be the case, such as someone yelling nuke ops just because a pda bomb went off, Is really fucking annoying. Sorry for the derail, but it might be on topic. Feel free to have an admin delete this post if it's too far off topic or derailing.

You are mad that you pretended to be a wizard and people thought you were a wizard?

Admins do your job better thread issue #1569

This is already not allowed (kinda) stop making threads about it

Regardless dynamic is the solution, once the meta is that there is no longer one type of threat people will ask more ic questions

CPTANT wrote:

Reyn wrote:Honestly My main problem is that as soon as some idiot uses a flash, be it borg or otherwise, as long as it isn't sec or captain, and even then it, probably jokingly, happens occasionally, People are really fucking quick to yell "REVS" or a certain gamemode.

hell, In general, people tend to, on the first HINT of it being a certain gamemode from a semi-quasi reliable source (AKA NOT THE CLOWN), prepare for the shit for that gamemode like madmen. One time, as comms agent, I called myself gandalf the greytide, and said hello. people IMMEDIATELY went "WIZ WIZ WIZ" and fucking went balistic. Even though I wasn't wiz, or on the station.

Asking if its a certain mess and yelling a certain possibility as soon as it MIGHT be the case, such as someone yelling nuke ops just because a pda bomb went off, Is really fucking annoying. Sorry for the derail, but it might be on topic. Feel free to have an admin delete this post if it's too far off topic or derailing.

You are mad that you pretended to be a wizard and people thought you were a wizard?

Yep. Mainly because it's so outlandish that the wizard wouldnt be doing anything and would be yammering over comms instead of doing anything.

I remember one round hardly a 2 weeks ago where sec and command handed out guns, all-access, called the shuttle and changed the AI's (myself) laws because one traitor used the PDA bomb near the beginning of the round. People are really quick to use meta-tells but I dunno if that's something that policy CAN change.

There are already two policies in place:

Referencing the gamemode ICly - It's OOC in IC if you say something similar to "It's revs" but it's okay if you say "There is a revolution." Basically make it sound like you're not referencing the fact that you're in a round.
Fake Revolutions - Faking a revolution always causes grief, without fail. If someone is pretending to be a revolutionary, feel free to murder them. If I find someone faking a revolution as a non-antag, they can prepare to catch a rule 1 ban for being a griefing shitter.

That being said I personally am not offended, if somebody uses the dreaded i-word in an IC sentence. If you want to be safe, just cut down your sentences to "REVS", "WIZ", "OPS" etc or use ebonics and say "This be X". Add questionmarks, if you want to ask what type of danger the station is facing. The policy causes pointless overhead to the admins to begin with and only place where its useful is for sniping specific people with selective notes/bans.

Edit:

Real question is when we start banning people of ICing in OOC, when they talk about shifts and not rounds?

Reyn wrote:Honestly My main problem is that as soon as some idiot uses a flash, be it borg or otherwise, as long as it isn't sec or captain, and even then it, probably jokingly, happens occasionally, People are really fucking quick to yell "REVS" or a certain gamemode.

hell, In general, people tend to, on the first HINT of it being a certain gamemode from a semi-quasi reliable source (AKA NOT THE CLOWN), prepare for the shit for that gamemode like madmen. One time, as comms agent, I called myself gandalf the greytide, and said hello. people IMMEDIATELY went "WIZ WIZ WIZ" and fucking went balistic. Even though I wasn't wiz, or on the station.

Asking if its a certain mess and yelling a certain possibility as soon as it MIGHT be the case, such as someone yelling nuke ops just because a pda bomb went off, Is really fucking annoying. Sorry for the derail, but it might be on topic. Feel free to have an admin delete this post if it's too far off topic or derailing.

Honestly for revs in particular you can only blame how the mode itself plays for that kind of reaction. If the rev heads are good sec has a very short time frame to get things under control before the snowball is too great for them to have a chance of stopping. If sec doesn't start going full mindshield and cracking down on any tiding on the first mention of revs the round will be over before sec even started to get ready to control the revs.

Typing out Revolution instead of revs can be deadly in some cases

annoyinggreencatgirl wrote:

Tarchonvaagh wrote:Please make asking the gamemode/antags OOC in IC.

It is, you're supposed to word things in an IC manner.

https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Headmin_Rulings

Referencing the gamemode ICly

It's OOC in IC if you say something similar to "It's revs" but it's okay if you say "There is a revolution." Basically make it sound like you're not referencing the fact that you're in a round.

That being said enough of the times that I've ahelped it it's either not responded to or treated as an annoyance that I don't really bother anymore.

Just because you don't get a response doesnt mean it hasn't been dealt with.
At least from my perspective, I'll just see those tickets, check the player logs of whoever you reported and deal with it, its not a big thing that requires a mass back and forth to corroborate stories kind of deal.

Timonk wrote:Typing out Revolution instead of revs can be deadly in some cases

"REVS!" is ok

At this point, the only ones who still say "It's revs!" are memesters who want to stir shit up in policy discussion because "tHerE's nO dIffErEnce"

word filter revs, its revs to oh no marxists in hop line, oh shit there is a man flashing people and saying they want to abolish capitalism if you care enough

Try to type that out while being chased

I want nonantags to roleplay more so I can kill them easier.

It's almost like Revolution is glorified TDM to begin with so all RP goes out the window.

Timonk wrote:Try to type that out while being chased

Try to type out literally anything while being chased lmao


Or you know just start running with arrow keys and toggle off hotkey mode to type while running

Xeroxemnas wrote:It's almost like Revolution is glorified TDM to begin with so all RP goes out the window.

If you're bad at the game maybe.

Qbmax32 wrote:

Timonk wrote:Try to type that out while being chased

Or you know just start running with arrow keys and toggle off hotkey mode to type while running

You can use arrow keys while in hotkey mode you non-hotkey mode user


Also typing 4 letters is better than typing 9 while trying to remember spelling

[Common] Bal Di says, "IT'S REVS I HEARD FLASH"

Tarchonvaagh wrote:[Common] Bal Di says, "IT'S REVS I HEARD FLASH"

it's already against the rules, ahelp it

Tlaltecuhtli wrote:word filter revs, its revs to oh no marxists in hop line, oh shit there is a man flashing people and saying they want to abolish capitalism if you care enough

revs arent anticapitalistic and i want people to stop injecting their fetish politics into the game

This is already against the rules, it counts as OOC in IC.