[Saegrimr] Not qualified for an admin

[Dr.Dre]

Byond account and character name:FoolArcana - Dr.Dre
Admin: Saegrimr
Time incident occured:
Detailed summary:

Almost everyone i met in /tg/station says the same for Saegrimr, this guy is not qualified for an admin. And since you made him a trial admin, server started to falter. As an admin, this guy harbors grudges for specific players (and i'm not talking about myself)

Anyway, maybe those players will come here and tell their stories about this trial admin.

As for me, i have been playing Chaplain, Bartender tried to burn me and i asked help of a borg. Borg took bartender to the brig. Now, i am playing a Chaplain, who has been recently attacked by the bartender. I screamed Ling, cause i'm playing a religious fanatic, i wanted to play a religious fanatic, afraid of outsiders, xenos, creatures, so he blames the bartender for being a ling, cause i know, security wont do shit if they can't confirm bartender is a ling. It doesn't matter if bartender is a ling or not, my character was recently burned by this guy, so he believes bartender is a ling. I'm roleplaying, this is a roleplaying game. Anyway, Warden took notice of my claims, but borg refuses to surrender the bartender, warden asked borg to stand down, borg did not stand down, they fought.

In the end, nothing happened, nobody died, nobody did shit. It was just a regular day in Space Station 13

Now, Saegrimr messages people for mundane stuff like this, he threatens them with banning, while this stuff was going on, i was talking with him all the time, which fucked my game up.

The thing i don't understand is, playing on this server was hard, this server was for old, robust SS13 players, which is why me and 10 of my friends enjoyed TG a lot, we never had to deal with bullshit coercion tricks cause admins were always square with us. Until this Saegrimr character.

This guy gave me 6 days of ban, just cause i talked back, i did not harm anyone, i did not organize a lynch mob, it was a 3 people event, that was frakking it, i get 6 days of for what, a player interaction? roleplaying? for what exactly?

Why do this guy even have the authority? He literally has grudges against other players too.

Anyway, here's the screenshot;

[Saegrimr]

Today I learned calling people out for the same terrible behavior more than once makes it a metagrudge.

[Dr.Dre]

Today I learned calling people out for the same terrible behavior more than once makes it a metagrudge.

Everytime you do something like this, i love how you almost immediately run back to the forums to check complaints.

[Saegrimr]

You told me twice you were gonna "take this to the forums".

[Dr.Dre]

You told me twice you were gonna "take this to the forums".

did you moved this thread to ban appeals? i'm not appealing my ban, i'm complaining about you, so i hope you didn't, cause it will look bad if you did.

[elyina]

You told me twice you were gonna "take this to the forums".

did you moved this thread to ban appeals? i'm not appealing my ban, i'm complaining about you, so i hope you didn't, cause it will look bad if you did.

I moved it, you're required to at least try to appeal a ban before making a complaint about it.

[Pandarsenic]

1. We’re all here to have a good time. If you’re intentionally trying to ruin everyone else’s good time, you won’t have a place here. Being a jerk in-character is fine to a point, but being a jerk out of character is not welcome at all.

3a. Randomly murdering people is generally considered to be ruining someone’s fun and poor form in roleplay. If you don’t have a solid IC reason for murder, you may be removed. Trying to justify it with ‘My character is so random/insane’ is not tolerated.

10. It should go without saying, but if you break the rules (or regularly come very close to breaking them i.e. “toeing the line”), you will be warned, muted, banned, or talked about rudely.

Admin Complaints are not a place to make passive-aggressive ban appeals.


In short, get out.

[Dr.Dre]

1. We’re all here to have a good time. If you’re intentionally trying to ruin everyone else’s good time, you won’t have a place here. Being a jerk in-character is fine to a point, but being a jerk out of character is not welcome at all.

3a. Randomly murdering people is generally considered to be ruining someone’s fun and poor form in roleplay. If you don’t have a solid IC reason for murder, you may be removed. Trying to justify it with ‘My character is so random/insane’ is not tolerated.

10. It should go without saying, but if you break the rules (or regularly come very close to breaking them i.e. “toeing the line”), you will be warned, muted, banned, or talked about rudely.

Admin Complaints are not a place to make passive-aggressive ban appeals.


In short, get out.

Learn to read, i never did anything harmful other than claiming guy who literally BURNED ME as a ling, so, in short, read it.

[NikNakFlak]

http://privatepaste.com/8c9396d8dc
Full logs for transparency.
Needless to say, your actions are disgusting. Justifying calling out the bartender as a ling for burning you and "religious reasons" is shit. He got perma'd for his actions, and yet you yelled out at the top of your lungs to have him cremated because obviously the permabrig wasn't enough. Following that, both you and the bartender screamed BORG ROUGES and the various things along with that because you were confronted about potentially violating Asimov. You have been warned, you have been talked about rudely, and you have been banned. Take the hint, and understand that what you did was wrong and that your current behavior, both server and forum wise is terrible.

[Saegrimr]

OKAY well now that this is in the appeals instead of complaints, I guess I have to handle this with a bit more tact.

RUNDOWN:
-Bartender attacks you, gets permad.
-You want revenge, scream he's a ling (during a confirmed blob round) just to get a lynch mob to execute him.
-Scream the borgs are rogue, blow them because they would not let you incinerate the bartender. (Law 1)

Now here's what didn't help the situation.
You get super hostile with me immediately, and don't let up. I asked why you were screaming about the borgs, not asking which finger you wanted me to sever first.
Flimsy excuses for your actions. Which i'll quote the headmin from your last ban appeal.

We don't let RP override the rules here, otherwise we'd have 'My character's crazy!!11' bombers and whatnot.

And this pseudo-appeal which is basically shitflinging and strawmanning in some effort to divert attention away from the fact that YOU BROKE THE RULES AND GOT PUNISHED FOR IT.

In short. Appeal denied.

[Hibbles]

General Rule of Thumb: When an admin asks you things, you answer without hostility. That's also a thing that never helps you. It literally forces us to upgrade things from talking to banning because you demonstrate, clearly, that you won't listen to what they're saying. And if you honestly think they're a shitlord, then answering like this only gives them more ammo for abusing you later because it makes you look as bad as them. In fact, we tell admins not to act rude to players as much as possible for essentially the same reason: it just gives people ammo to use against you.