XCOM2 - More like SyndiCOM

capi duffman · Post by **capi duffman** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:17 am #92311

http://www.adventfuture.org/

As it turns out, commander was a condom, the xenos took over, and now XCOM goes like some good deathsquad cleaning house of taint.

This may be an interesting E3, I'm looking forward to this game. Also PC exclusive, because master race and mod tools.

http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=XCOM2

To note:

-Snakemen
-Sectoid Hybrids
-Race traitors as shitcurity
-Possibly the avenger as a base (please no, I'd rather have multiple bases with base defense)
-Melee weapons
-timed missions everywhere.
-timed campaign

mosquitoman · Post by **mosquitoman** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:35 am #92317

it's just a cutscene, they didn't show anything relevant

and it's firaxis so you know it's gonna be shit

Maccus · Post by **Maccus** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:50 am #92319

I think it's implied that killing off the Ethereals left/will leave a massive power vaccuum in the alien worlds, plus humanity suddenly gaining a psychic presence or something probably alerted any other more experienced psychic aliens to their presence which let them take over earth

I'm 80% pulling this from my butt like some sort of clown handkerchief trick but I could be right and that's what matters

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:50 am #92323

The only in game image, at least showing the UI, that I can find thus far.

Spoiler:

Overall I like the idea being presented of putting XCOM on the backfoot as the invader, in a sense.

E: Also

mosquitoman wrote:it's just a cutscene, they didn't show anything relevant

and it's firaxis so you know it's gonna be shit

Apparently we're going to get a lot more info on the game some time later today.

Also XCOM EU/EW are very well made games, and Firaxis tends to make good games. The biggest complaint I have against them is that their games usually take until all the DLC is made and released until their games become great (see Civ 5)

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:57 am #92325

I'm both surprised and disappointed in the internet that the snake alien doesn't have R34 yet.
But then there's plenty of naga porn out there anyway

That said, looks like it will be an alright game with probably a lot of polish. And that's about it.
Did hear they were going to make it way easier to mod, so maybe there's some good mods in the future for it

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:37 pm #92347

XSI wrote:I'm both surprised and disappointed in the internet that the snake alien doesn't have R34 yet.
But then there's plenty of naga porn out there anyway

That said, looks like it will be an alright game with probably a lot of polish. And that's about it.
Did hear they were going to make it way easier to mod, so maybe there's some good mods in the future for it

Maps are now procedural again...

Steamworkshop Support too. It will even support custom aliens apparently.

Maccus wrote:I think it's implied that killing off the Ethereals left/will leave a massive power vaccuum in the alien worlds, plus humanity suddenly gaining a psychic presence or something probably alerted any other more experienced psychic aliens to their presence which let them take over earth

I'm 80% pulling this from my butt like some sort of clown handkerchief trick but I could be right and that's what matters

The canon ending is that the Ethereals won. The earths governments signed a treat of unconditional surrender.

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:00 pm #92350

Right now we don't exactly know how the original game (XCOM EU) canonically ends. While its established that Earth surrendered to the Aliens we don't know if this is due to the XCOM project failing to stop the invasion, or if XCOM did manage to destroy the Temple Ship which only served to either...

A): Cause the remaining Aliens to abandon any pretence of 'testing' humanity and they simply go nuts and fully invade Earth.

B): This 'greater threat' the Etheral's talk about proceed to catch up and conquer Earth.

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:11 pm #92353

Steelpoint wrote:Right now we don't exactly know how the original game (XCOM EU) canonically ends. While its established that Earth surrendered to the Aliens we don't know if this is due to the XCOM project failing to stop the invasion, or if XCOM did manage to destroy the Temple Ship which only served to either...

A): Cause the remaining Aliens to abandon any pretence of 'testing' humanity and they simply go nuts and fully invade Earth.

B): This 'greater threat' the Etheral's talk about proceed to catch up and conquer Earth.

Promotional screenshots show images of glorious four armed leaders.

Ethereals won brah

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:15 pm #92354

Except you'll see that I actually do agree with that assessment but I contest exactly how the Etherals won.

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:34 pm #92357

Without more info, it's mere speculation one way or another whether how XCOM lost. I'm surprised to see people use what appear to be ballistic and melee weaponry in the trailer, though it might just be that plasma weapons are restricted to the military and aren't easy to get. Though to be honest, this doesn't look like usual Ethereal handiwork considering they used clone soldiers in the last game and I don't see why they would need to keep Humanity alive. Could be a different faction of Ethereals, maybe caused by what the volunteer did?
I do have a theory that we might have mixed race squads if hybrids or even outright defectors are a thing, might shake up dynamics a bit if you could have team members with different abilities and weaknesses.

At any rate, I hope it'll be good and introduce some new concepts to the game.

Kot · Post by **Kot** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:47 pm #92358

I like this. I'm Polish, I love doing partisans work, especially when it comes to nazis. Alien Nazis are ok too.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:38 pm #92364

I just have a really bad feeling about this, despite or perhaps because of sexy scalies.

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:05 pm #92418

Kot wrote:I like this. I'm Polish, I love doing partisans work, especially when it comes to nazis. Alien Nazis are ok too.

But Poland. You are the nazis.

Balut · Post by **Balut** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:10 pm #92420

So I might've not liked what they did with Chryssalids, but fuck, these Snakemen look baller as shit.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:55 pm #92722

http://tgweaver.tumblr.com/post/1205460 ... od-already

Still not seeing any porn of it

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:32 pm #92761

XSI wrote:http://tgweaver.tumblr.com/post/1205460 ... od-already

Still not seeing any porn of it

As of nineteen hours ago, the first new snakeman pic has appeared on Paheal, under the X-COM tag. Four in total, now.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:52 pm #92772

thank you for keeping us up to date about alien pussy

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:22 pm #92779

Actually, more reptits than alien pussy, but we're getting there. Slowly.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:52 pm #92787

Every time

Slower than usual, but it happens every time

capi duffman · Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:25 pm

Xeno-loving scum. When she uses you to implant her eggs, I'll be sure to execute you first.

tedward1337 · Post by **tedward1337** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:54 am #92836

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:15 am #92845

Loonikus · Post by **Loonikus** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:00 am #92887

Gas all xenos. Gas all race traitors. Gas all xeno race traitors, even if that means they are betraying the xeno race. Scale suckers, suck on my S.H.I.V.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:46 am #92905

That's lewd, and I'd actually do it.

rexagon · Post by **rexagon** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:25 pm #92911

Just in case some people didn't get the memo, this is what happens if you dick around in XCOM:EU/EW and lose. This is why no laser/plasma. Because you couldn't/didn't. TL;DR Red Alert continuity

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:20 pm #92937

Most likely scenarios I can think off as to why the Aliens won.

1:) The game simply assumes XCOM was unable to fare well in the first few months of the invasion and the Aliens steamrolled over Earth.

2:) XCOM conducted limited research into Laser weapons before they lost the war.

3:) XCOM won the war, but the volunteer on-board the Temple Ship was either sent back in time or had his memories sent back in time and was found by the invading Aliens in the early months of the invasion. Armed with the knowledge that Humanity is the 'species' they are looking for they drop the pretense of testing Earth and invade it out right.

tedward1337 · Post by **tedward1337** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:41 pm #92945

PORN
WHEN

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:58 pm #92972

Tedward, you are way, way, late. Read up a bit.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:53 pm #92996

tedward1337 · Post by **tedward1337** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:18 pm #93063

EndgamerAzari · Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:20 pm

tedward1337 · Post by **tedward1337** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:21 pm #93067

EndgamerAzari wrote:

Where is this from

EndgamerAzari · Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:24 pm

It was from the old Dwarf Fortress thread before the rollback. It made me laugh like an idiot so I screencapped it.

Scones · Post by **Scones** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:09 pm #93090

I thought initially that maybe the doom tracker bad ending was cannon, but I know the volunteer will show back up in this game so scratch that

Anyways, I'm excited.

tedward1337 · Post by **tedward1337** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:19 am #93116

EndgamerAzari wrote:It was from the old Dwarf Fortress thread before the rollback. It made me laugh like an idiot so I screencapped it.

Ayy

Dr. Aura · Post by **Dr. Aura** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:42 am #93185

You know, I like to think that it's going to be more along the lines of XCOM won, but the Ethereals called their home buddies about the time they figured humans would be the ones to beat them, probably just after they captured the Gollop device and killed their first Ethereal. About this time, I usually get to it 3-4 months in. That is to say, 3-4 months past March, so June. From June, to the end of the year, we have the rest of the capacity of the same race that brought the Temple Ship into the Earth's atmosphere out of seemingly nowhere, coming to Earth, fully expecting their eternal search for the perfect fighter and psionic to be ripe for harvesting, right?

Wrong.

They meet an unaffected race, likely beginning to distribute the information and apply it to themselves as a race. So, we have the rest of the alien forces there to take over, how do they do it? The Ethereal Device. When the Volunteer first touched it, they ascended to a state of mind and being similar to that of the Ethereals: not only seeing flashes and glimpses into the alien world, but getting the ability to use the Rift for the last mission. By the end, they interact with the Temple Ethereal device, and they seem to have a flash of realization about what the ship would do to the Earth, then fly that fucker the way it came in to save everything. All of this, likely ported over to the group steaming full sail to come and get them under their command. However; a single being was able to equate to the power of the Uber, and is now tied to their conscience.

XCOM won; the rest of them showed up. Mind control, and control over the single most powerful psionic human, would likely be enough to garter capital and people to begin the ADVENT company and easily 'take over' anyone who'd oppose them. ADVENT and the aliens solidified their control, more so that the aliens were subverting everyone and pointing them towards this seemingly inconspicuous company, probably touting stolen gene mods to humans to boast the elimination of old age and sickness, entire towns with the utopian society. How many people flock to that? At what point do the aliens step out and claim final victory publicly? At that point, how many governments of the Council are in their pocket?

I don't want to say I have all the answers, but I don't want to let the only answer be one that is defaulted to because of slightly convoluted timelines or details we'll never know even when the games come out.

I need to get a better hobby.

rexagon · Post by **rexagon** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:17 am #93554

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/02/ ... -overlords

Jake Solomon:“When the aliens showed up, XCOM suffered massive casualties, and governments around the world crumbled in face of popular support to surrender. Then, the Earth was quickly overrun. And so, 20 years into the future, the world is a very different place. The aliens rule Earth from giant shining megacities where all the people of Earth are flocking; that’s where they’re promised an easy life, a secure life free of disease.“

So here, you don't beat the aliens, they steamroll you. On another note, The classes are now Ranger (Assault), Sharpshooter (Sniper), Grenadier (Heavy), Specialist (Support), and a fifth mystery class. Much hype. Very excite.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:28 am #93569

So, we got the classes renamed into something that sounds mildly more military and makes somewhat less sense, and my guess is number five will revolve either around DEM ROBOTS or DEM PSIJICS.

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 5:38 pm #93628

DemonFiren wrote:So, we got the classes renamed into something that sounds mildly more military and makes somewhat less sense, and my guess is number five will revolve either around DEM ROBOTS or DEM PSIJICS.

Possibly a stealth class of some sort. This is 20 years ahead in the timeline, so that wouldn't be entirely out of the question. I'm kinda interested to see what they do with the partisan resistance theme they're working on.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:20 am #93731

If the mystery class is a suicide bomber I'm buying this

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:50 am #93838

cedarbridge wrote:
DemonFiren wrote:So, we got the classes renamed into something that sounds mildly more military and makes somewhat less sense, and my guess is number five will revolve either around DEM ROBOTS or DEM PSIJICS.
Possibly a stealth class of some sort. This is 20 years ahead in the timeline, so that wouldn't be entirely out of the question. I'm kinda interested to see what they do with the partisan resistance theme they're working on.

I think stealth is gonna be given to either the sniper or assault.

Takeguru · Post by **Takeguru** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:57 am #145407

Necroing the thread because youtubers and shit got their early access copies.

Almost every god damn normal mission is on a timer.

MELD was one thing, because it was basically optional, but requiring it is shit tier

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:35 am #145410

Ehh it's a different kind of game really. Xcom 1 heavily rewarded you for going slow and dealing with enemies that way, but Xcom 2 rewards you for rushing through and going fast so the change of pace with Meld in Enemy Within was very jarring.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:43 am #145411

So what you saying is that its even more dumbed down and cut down for the instant gratification generation then xcom?

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:46 am #145412

Well no because your soldiers are, from what I've seen, made of paper, even more so than other Xcom titles. You probably won't have a bunch of super soldiers who never die in this game like Xcom 1, but 1 or 2 at max with hte rest rotating out on death.

Lumbermancer · Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:17 pm

Takeguru wrote:Necroing the thread because youtubers and shit got their early access copies.

Almost every god damn normal mission is on a timer.

MELD was one thing, because it was basically optional, but requiring it is shit tier

If I wanted timers I'd go play superior Invisible Inc.

capi duffman · Fri Jan 08, 2016 2:07 pm

I have seen three different types of mission without timers.
One was about looting some cargo, another to take down a statue, and another to loot a macguffing, also, I know there is an assassination mission (but I couldn't see it in play, so I don't know if there is a timer)
There are two mission types with timer, one to acquire intel, and another to destroy an antenna or something.
Also, yesterday I saw Beaglerush get his ass kicked playing legend with a modified .ini
The pectoids pretty much wrecked him, and he had to restart over and over.

Jazaen · Post by **Jazaen** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:32 pm #145443

capi duffman wrote: One was about looting some cargo, another to take down a statue, and another to loot a macguffing, also, I know there is an assassination mission (but I couldn't see it in play, so I don't know if there is a timer)
There are two mission types with timer, one to acquire intel, and another to destroy an antenna or something.

So... We became the Syndicate?

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:52 pm #145453

Why not just play Xenonauts?

It's closer to actually being X-com than any 'Xcom' game gets

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:31 pm #145457

Graphics are kinda bad. The game also gets really samey really quickly so you get bored fast.