[NoxVS] MentalDecayed - Banbaiting ban?

[MentalDecayed]

BYOND account: MentalDecayed

Ban/note type (Server Ban/Discord Ban/Forum Ban/Note): Server ban

Ban/note duration: 1 Day
Ban/note reason: Banbaiting. As a nonantagonist printed a large quanity of plates and intentionally drew the attention of a revenant to haunt them. after being questioned by the crew, claimed it was for another reason and failed to mention the revenant in their ahelp when they believed they were about to be permabrigged for the plates instead claminign they were arrested for making plates and breaking them
Time ban was placed:2025-06-25 21:50:25
Server you were playing on when banned: Manuel
Round ID in which ban was placed:253577

Why are you making this appeal? (Put an x in the boxes):
() - The ban/note is factually incorrect
() - The ban/note is not against the rules
() - The ban/note needs modification
(x) - The ban was unjustifiably harsh
() - I was permabanned and I want another chance

Why should this appeal be accepted?: usually when i ahelp something and i don't include information, i am ASKED about it and give answers. Because an ahelp doesn't include additional information a player didn't know was important, and an admin does, in the INITIAL AHELP, doesn't mean its banbaiting. That's what the whole ahelp system is there for. I lied to the crew yes, because they seemed INCREDIBLY harsh judging about breaking plates, of which shards i had thought at the time were HARMLESS. Usually I interact with revenants and nobody really has ever told me that was a problem. it's very interesting to parlay with revenant players and has resulted in an interesting round on more than one occasion. Yes i told the revenant the plates were a gift, but i was asked that in the ahelp, but was banned for banbaiting anyway after the information was given after being asked? I didn't want them banned i just wanted to be revived so i could at least explain why i revived the clown to Lico, the medical doctor, who murdered me. The first ahelp was made because i thought i was being put in perma and was panicking after the sec told me i was charged with littering.

[NoxVS]

Oh, sorry, I thought I replied to this before going to sleep.

First off, going to start out by saying I got there a little before the shuttle left for CentCom, so it's entirely possible that I missed relevant details. Let me know if there's anything that you think would exonerate you and I can try digging through logs for it. Enough time had passed and damage undone that I didn't feel comfortable speedrunning to act on the rest, but what I saw as banbaiting felt egregious enough that I had to do something about it.

Relevant ticket logs

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From Ticket #2 during round 253577 on manuel:

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2025-06-25 21:00:05: Ticket Opened by mentaldecayed: hey i was thrown in perma for literally making plates and breaking them. nobody died. it was making a mess.
2025-06-25 21:13:03: Ticket Opened by mentaldecayed: people here are super pissy for no reason. i was killed by licorina eton for reviving the dead clown because. i thought he was killed by the literal megafauna someone brought to medbay. so i revived him. then lico killed me. now the janitor put me in a body bag and labelled it DNR. this is actual round removal. i know the janitor hates me after i made a mess in a hallway but his is FAR FAR overkill. she's tried to kill me twice now.
2025-06-25 21:38:57: Reply from noxvs: Did you have any reason to make the plates beyond making a mess?
2025-06-25 21:40:14: Reply from mentaldecayed: not really. i just wanted to make a mess. but that's not a reason to fucking label my body bag DNR. I had zero clue the clown revived baby heirophant in medbay. i saw a ton of casualties and tried to revive the closest body which happened to be the clown and lico fucking murdered me for it. then the janitor fucking labeled me DNR. HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THE CLOWN DID THAT I WAS IN PRISON
2025-06-25 21:40:57: Reply from noxvs: Why did you ask the rev if they wanted it and told them it was a gift for them then?
2025-06-25 21:41:18: Reply from mentaldecayed: i thought there would be a lot of plates breaking. i like the sound it makes and wanted more of it.
2025-06-25 21:42:13: Reply from noxvs: So you created a ton of plates for a revenant to haunt and throw around causing lots of shards? And you see no reason why you would be arrested for giving a revenant access to all that?
2025-06-25 21:43:17: Reply from mentaldecayed: oh no i jumped the gun on the first ahelp. i thought i was in perma which i wasn't. also i didn't think shards did damage. never saw plate shards actually be used as a weapon before. i just thought it was little bobblety bits that made a mess.
2025-06-25 21:46:50: Reply from noxvs: I think it's perfectly fine to judge you DNR for reviving someone who created a problem like that. Even if you didn't have a way to know that's just how it goes sometimes.<br />
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I do take issue with the mass production of plates, getting the revenant to haunt them, lying about it when asked by others, and failing to mention any of that relevant information in your original ahelp when you faced retaliation for it. I don't want to drag the round out anymore, that feels like enough conveniently undisclosed context for me to consider this banbaiting.
2025-06-25 21:47:46: Reply from mentaldecayed: ban baiting? i thought they were harmless
2025-06-25 21:49:46: Reply from noxvs: It isn't that you thought it was harmless, it was that you misrepresented the situation in your ahelp. You weren't arrested for making plates and breaking them, you were arrested for giving them to a revenant. There was no reason to leave that out except to make the others look bad.
2025-06-25 21:50:27: Client disconnected
2025-06-25 21:50:27: <a>noxvs</a>/(Lethe) has created a temporary 1 day server ban for MentalDecayed.
2025-06-25 21:50:28: Resolved by noxvs
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This ticket can be viewed here: https://statbus.space/tickets/253577/2
This ticket was generated by Statbus v.2.0.19

When I first started to look into this I immediately saw complaints about you having mass produced plates to give to a revenant, so I was already aware of that being something people were taking issue with. Looking over logs quickly showed that you had explicitly done this.

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[2025-06-25 20:43:17.668] GAME-SAY: mentaldecayed/(Arcticus Cecropia) (mob_3238) "hey revenant" (Service Hallway (130,138,2))
[2025-06-25 20:43:22.602] GAME-SAY: mentaldecayed/(Arcticus Cecropia) (mob_3238) "want like 50 plates?" (Service Hallway (130,138,2))
[2025-06-25 20:43:46.687] GAME-SAY: mentaldecayed/(Arcticus Cecropia) (mob_3238) "hey revenant" (Service Hallway (129,138,2))
[2025-06-25 20:44:00.897] GAME-SAY: mentaldecayed/(Arcticus Cecropia) (mob_3238) "revenant" (Service Hallway (132,148,2))
[2025-06-25 20:44:02.628] GAME-SAY: mentaldecayed/(Arcticus Cecropia) (mob_3238) "come with me" (Service Hallway (132,148,2))
[2025-06-25 20:44:06.304] GAME-SAY: mentaldecayed/(Arcticus Cecropia) (mob_3238) "i got something to show you" (Service Hallway (132,148,2))
[2025-06-25 20:44:43.888] GAME-SAY: mentaldecayed/(Arcticus Cecropia) (mob_3238) "50 plates" (Service Hallway (130,138,2))
[2025-06-25 20:44:58.205] GAME-SAY: mentaldecayed/(Arcticus Cecropia) (mob_3238) "the revenant printed them" (Service Hallway (130,137,2))
[2025-06-25 20:45:52.474] GAME-SAY: mentaldecayed/(Arcticus Cecropia) (mob_3238) "rev do you like my gift" (Service Hallway (129,131,2))

You were attacked for doing this and saw fit to conceal why you had done it. You were also explicitly told that it had been causing harm.

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[2025-06-25 20:46:28.742] GAME-SAY: thranos/(Laura Winters) (mob_3542) "YOU" (Medbay Central (119,104,3))
[2025-06-25 20:46:47.227] GAME-SAY: mentaldecayed/(Arcticus Cecropia) (mob_3238) "HELP" (Medbay Treatment Center (123,95,3))
[2025-06-25 20:46:51.118] GAME-SAY: thranos/(Laura Winters) (mob_3542) "MOTHERFUCKER" (Medbay Treatment Center (126,97,3))
[2025-06-25 20:46:51.331] GAME-SAY: mentaldecayed/(Arcticus Cecropia) (mob_3238) "HE HAS A WEAPON" (Medbay Treatment Center (123,98,3))
[2025-06-25 20:46:56.857] GAME-SAY: thranos/(Laura Winters) (mob_3542) "THEY PRINTED" (Medbay Treatment Center (125,97,3))
[2025-06-25 20:47:03.623] GAME-SAY: thranos/(Laura Winters) (mob_3542) "FIFTY PLATES AS &#34;A GIFT&#34; TO THE REVENANT" (Medbay Treatment Center (125,97,3))
[2025-06-25 20:47:16.408] GAME-SAY: thranos/(Laura Winters) (mob_3542) "AND NOW THE REVENANT IS KILLING PEOPLE WITH A GIANT FUCKFEST OF SHARDS" (Medbay Treatment Center (125,97,3))
[2025-06-25 20:47:17.594] GAME-SAY: mentaldecayed/(Arcticus Cecropia) (mob_3238) "untrue. i printed 50 plates fo rthe chef" (Medbay Treatment Center (122,96,3))
[2025-06-25 20:47:36.650] GAME-SAY: thranos/(Laura Winters) (mob_3542) "THEY ARMED THE REVENANT WITH A LETHAL AMOUNT OF SHARP SHIT." (Medbay Treatment Center (123,96,3))
[2025-06-25 20:47:40.067] GAME-SAY: mentaldecayed/(Arcticus Cecropia) (mob_3238) "and you tore them onto the floor" (Medbay Treatment Center (124,99,3))
[2025-06-25 20:47:50.944] GAME-SAY: mentaldecayed/(Arcticus Cecropia) (mob_3238) "it&#39;s not my fault you&#39;re haunted" (Medbay Treatment Center (123,98,3))
[2025-06-25 20:47:55.488] GAME-SAY: thranos/(Laura Winters) (mob_3542) "I was trying to put them IN DISPOSALS until you started DRAGGING THEM AWAY" (Medbay Treatment Center (123,96,3))

And here's where you were arrested for it and blatantly told that it was for giving the revenant ammunition.

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[2025-06-25 20:56:21.854] GAME-SAY: grungussuss/(Ruby Lamprouge) (mob_3630) "Arcticus" (Service Hallway (132,147,2))
[2025-06-25 20:56:26.560] GAME-SAY: grungussuss/(Ruby Lamprouge) (mob_3630) "did you break all those plates?" (Service Hallway (132,147,2))
[2025-06-25 20:56:34.306] GAME-SAY: thranos/(Laura Winters) (mob_3542) "THEY DID." (Service Hallway (131,147,2))
[2025-06-25 20:56:38.633] GAME-SAY: mentaldecayed/(Arcticus Cecropia) (mob_3238) "not all of em no. just like between 3 and 5" (Service Hallway (131,150,2))
[2025-06-25 20:56:42.813] GAME-SAY: mentaldecayed/(Arcticus Cecropia) (mob_3238) "out of 50" (Service Hallway (132,150,2))
[2025-06-25 20:56:44.672] GAME-SAY: grungussuss/(Ruby Lamprouge) (mob_3630) "that&#39;s pretty bad" (Service Hallway (132,147,2))
[2025-06-25 20:56:55.963] GAME-SAY: grungussuss/(Ruby Lamprouge) (mob_3630) "you&#39;re giving the revenant ammunition" (Service Hallway (132,147,2))
[2025-06-25 20:57:05.295] GAME-SAY: grungussuss/(Ruby Lamprouge) (mob_3630) "this time, I have to brig you for sure." (Service Hallway (132,147,2))

So, you gave the revenant haunt ammunition. You tried to deny this, acting as if it was purely a coincidence when it was the explicit reason why you had decided to make a ton of plates. You were told that this is exactly why you were facing aggression. You then made two separate ahelps about how you were facing unjustified action just for breaking some plates. You knew exactly why you made those plates. Those involved in the conflict with you knew exactly why you made those plates. There was absolutely no reason for you to conveniently not mention that you gave them to the revenant in your ahelps. There is a massive difference between saying "I was just breaking plates and making a mess" and "I gave plates to a revenant to be haunted and thrown around despite being told not to and being made aware of the effects it was having". The involvement of the revenant is such important context that I don't see a world where you decided to leave it out as irrelevant information. From what I can see, this is just blatantly misrepresenting what happened to get someone else in trouble with admins.

Now that I've had time to look further into the logs, the only regret I have with how I handled this is that I didn't deal with what seems to be pretty blatant feigned ignorance with giving a revenant haunt ammunition and not making this harsher.

[NoxVS]

The ban has since expired (Actually seems like it may have already expired when I initially responded?) so you may continue this as a note appeal if you wish. If you don’t have anything else to add I suppose this is denied.