what are your plans for mrp enforcement?

[dendydoom]

there's a fairly sizeable contingent of players (and admins) who feel like manuel has been slipping in "rp quality" since lots of sybil players have moved over.

in recent times there's been a push for harder enforcement around rules which relate to rp quality. things like ooc in ic, chicken-fights, etc.

do you have any thoughts on this and manuel's current situation? do you have any plans specifically for how you'd guide admin enforcement on manuel?

[kinnebian]

Its an inevitable factor of Sybillites moving to Manny that Manny was going to suffer. The RP quality has definitely dropped- and I can say that enforcement isn't as 100% as it usually is. I'd like to try enticing people back onto sybil through config events and the such- but that aside, we probably need to be hiring some more MRPmins and moving to crack down a little on more things like ooc in ic. I think the current rules we have on MRP enable roleplay- people just arent using them due to the chaotic nature of high pop. I think if we make sybil enticing again and put a pop cap on Manny a lot of the current issues would lessen or go away.

[TheRex9001]

Lots of folks moving or is bound to ruffle the culture a bit, if we want to regain and maintain the standard Manuel was at you'd need admins to enforce at that level. Really enforcement and shifts come from consistent enforcement and crack downs on ooc in ic or rule 3 breaks. I do not have a true "plan" per say, I would need to formulate one with my fellow headmins but I would say a lower pop cap could be added as a pretty fast answer, you add one and then you can release it at a later point when you feel the roleplay is at a good level.

[RaveRadbury]

I think the current culture shift is reminiscent of the Bagil/Sybil dynamic that existed pre-Manuel. There are players who are willing to play low pop if it means that they get the pacing and social RP they want. Other players want to play on a highpop server and they tend to have preferences and tendencies that the low pop people were trying to escape. Before Manny existed the driving force was high-level players like Lexia Black driving people to play on the other server to avoid getting murderboned for the 5th time in a row. The lowpop server would change as people moved with the currents.

The current situation on Manuel is critical and important for all parties involved. Sybil loyalists don't have the pop they need to have the experience they want. I have always believed that highpop is critical for LRP enjoyment.
I don't think more bans and rules are the solution to this problem. I think this is a social and community issue. I think that the organization needs to do more to win back hearts and minds as well as trying to bring in new people. We need to put effort in and with all this renewed energy around us I think great things can happen if we push together.

Once Sybil has pop again the issue should naturally resolve itself.

I see the shift in framing of LRP and MRP away from their current titles as an opportunity to clarify MRP and LRP expectations in a way that not only suits both groups but also more clearly communicates what makes the two environments different and better sets expectations.

A community meeting would be a strong first step. Showing up for a good faith conversation away from the game could be fruitful. At the very least those who show up will feel more united and community members will have an opportunity to speak their concerns and share their ideas. At best people could gain new understanding and we could have more community harmony.

[xzero314]

I think with TGS current bright potential thanks to the new host We have a really good shot at getting the pop back on sybil. Interest in TG is climbing from what I can tell. The evenings high pops of manny are only hitting new highs.

We had over 90 people the other day. Quite a few of those are players that would prefer to be playing on LRP if it had pop. Enough I would say for a good round of ss13
Our LRP Player base is clearly alive and well and hungry for ss13.

If the mrp rules are not enforced that base has no reason to play on the lrp server.

So for the sake of making sure our lrp players and mrp players both get to have the best experience of their preferred way to play, the MRP rules must be enforced fully on manny. Even in light of lots of awesome folks that would rather be on lrp coming over to play.

I want to stress that I really dont want this to come across as some sort of tribalistic “go where you belong”
The idea is that all we need to do is get the cart up over the crest of the hill. If we can get the momentum going for sybil we can build on it. Nows the time.

[Maxipat]

We should encourage and empower admins to force the bar up where it belonged, since it will probably result in two things - MRP players being happy and LRP players possibly leaving back to sybil. I think main reason we have sybil players influx on manuel is that we don't really enforce the standard as much as we did in the past and that playing on an empty server is BOOOORIIIIING since everyone moved to manuel (and some that don't mind the ping to Terry).

[Jackraxxus]

I dont wanna burn admins out by cracking the whip and demanding standards be enforced to extreme levels. If anything was to be done on that front, I think it would be preferable for a headmin to lead from the front. "RP" to that higher standard by themselves when playing, and enforcing rules how they want them to be enforced themselves, and letting others follow their example. I think TBM did (And continues to do) a pretty good job on this. Admins' willingness to enforce a higher standard is a courage and trust in leadership thing, and imo the best way to earn this trust is to do it yourself.

In my humble opinion, the ultimate solution is to wait for Summer in the northern hemisphere, when some mysterious phenomena causes pop (And especially US pop!) to increase, and go hard on reviving Sybil then.

[iansdoor]

there's a fairly sizeable contingent of players (and admins) who feel like manuel has been slipping in "rp quality" since lots of sybil players have moved over.

in recent times there's been a push for harder enforcement around rules which relate to rp quality. things like ooc in ic, chicken-fights, etc.

do you have any thoughts on this and manuel's current situation? do you have any plans specifically for how you'd guide admin enforcement on manuel?

I have been in those rounds. It's not exactly the most RP friendly rounds, feels like terry or maybe the later stage of manuel that made me quit manuel. My idea is that folks talk more and less pointing and squeezing into departments willy nilly. I feel like radio plus pda plus your physical person is more than enough to communicate what you need or what you want to do. I know from my own experience of playing and also watching that if you ask nicely or ask at all, that the responses are better than just hacking in and leaving the airlock open. I want to crack on that.