How are you going to try to increase pop

[bastardblaster]

Sybil is dead, and we're basically operating a two server framework here, Manuel (whose core audience is either sick of LRP refugees coming in or has already left) and Terry. What, if, any, plans do you have to try to increase population counts?

[kinnebian]

I don't trust a definite stance or policy on how to get pop back- because at the end of the day, people are only going to play on the servers if its fun. I've outlined specific points in my platform- but things like enforcing a better standard on Manuel, tweaks to dynamic and special config events or options for places like Sybil are all good steps to bringing a population back to their best places. If we make the game as fun as possible- people will probably play. Can't force them to otherwise.

[RaveRadbury]

First step: community meeting for Manuel players, recent and established. Those who show up and have something to (respectfully) say get heard. Ideas for sybil improvement from sybil fans, ideas for manuel improvements from manuel fans. The fastest solutions are only achievable with group buy-in. Because this isn't something that one person can fix with words or an edit of the config. We all leave the meeting with a better sense of the future and a feeling of community effort.

My whole time here I've been trying to get things shaped up so the atmosphere is more like a community clubhouse as a way to make it easier for us to get exposure and have content creators around. The new host is interested in paying some bigger youtubers out in the wild to make vids on us. I've been helping out with that. If we can induce another tide there will be pop again.

Really going to have to play it by ear and see what works, I've detailed more in my thread.

[xzero314]

I am starting to sound like a broken record forgive me. I guess I just see the issues as similar. I Gave an answer to another question that I should have put here for this one! But the answer is the same regardless.



Its great that we have people all able to play on manny and have a good time but its very true that there are some disgruntled voices

We have pop on the rise on manny. The (morning my time) pop is consistently 20-30 instead of the 5-15. And in the evenings we are seeing more and more.

LRP preferring players would probably rather be playing on Sybil. But nobody else is on it and the gang is all on manny so why would you bother? Its a self feeding problem.

Currently there is no reason for a player that prefers lrp to go over there when they can get both the pop and the lrp experience on manny


I am happy to see that the player base is able to get along in one sandbox. But it cannot be denied that everybody would be having even more fun if we got people playing in the other sandbox too.

[bastardblaster]

I am starting to sound like a broken record forgive me. I guess I just see the issues as similar. I Gave an answer to another question that I should have put here for this one! But the answer is the same regardless.



Its great that we have people all able to play on manny and have a good time but its very true that there are some disgruntled voices

We have pop on the rise on manny. The (morning my time) pop is consistently 20-30 instead of the 5-15. And in the evenings we are seeing more and more.

LRP preferring players would probably rather be playing on Sybil. But nobody else is on it and the gang is all on manny so why would you bother? Its a self feeding problem.

Currently there is no reason for a player that prefers lrp to go over there when they can get both the pop and the lrp experience on manny


I am happy to see that the player base is able to get along in one sandbox. But it cannot be denied that everybody would be having even more fun if we got people playing in the other sandbox too.

Yes, but what are your plans to address this issue?

[TheRex9001]

I do not think there is 1 single thing you can do to increase pop, but I think getting community feedback is very important, polls like how they arrived are helpful to find ways to move forward, from that poll I think we should help content creators on tg more

[Jackraxxus]

More RETENTION by letting new players talk to their experienced friends over voice (Or text idc - with threads) on the /tg/ discord. I go on a lot about this my thread.
This is a wacky idea but what if we crossover this thread and the antag tokens thread and promise tokens of some sort (maybe antag maybe something else) to ppl who introduce their friends + the friends get one?
It's very mobile-gamepilled like u know when youtubers are like "USE CODE SUCKMYNUTS420 AT WARTHUNDER TO GET 5000000000000 PISSIUM AND A FREE PAPER PLANE" or something it's kinda cringe (and might get scammed) but it's an idea idk.
I talk about this in my thread where I suggest using notes to keep track of ppl using the metacomming thing could bundle it w/ a token.

I got a gift card for doing a survey once could promote it like that.
But you also get rewards for bringing people to multi-level-marketing scams so......

[Maxipat]

I think what killed the pop was:
- Wallening drama, a lot of LRP people left bcs of it being mechanically unplayable (and LRP players love game mechanics) and,
- Server uptime being at best 50% in 2024, all the crashes, forums being dead, terry being dead, logs dying resulted in lot's of people just losing faith in us and just leaving for more stable servers.
On top of it being march and im almost sure pop is always lower around that time of the year?

Terry is not in danger really, since it fills a demanded niche of english speaking european LRP server, and for manuel we should just up the RP bar back to where it was to make lrp players actually want to play on the lrp server instead of turning our mrp server into lrp one.

I think bringing some OOC rules like rule 11 up to modern standards of public community would be a good start, i can't imagine any streamers or other rather popular influencers risking their accounts/not getting paid for it just because /tg/ allows slurs "BUT ONLY IF THEYRE NOT BIGOTED UWU". Back when the vtuber Jelly Hoshiumi streamed here for some rounds, it was just basically people screaming slurs and other neonazi shit for attention and from my knowledge Jelly hasn't ever returned to ss13 as a whole and i'm not surprised.

[xzero314]

I am starting to sound like a broken record forgive me. I guess I just see the issues as similar. I Gave an answer to another question that I should have put here for this one! But the answer is the same regardless.



Its great that we have people all able to play on manny and have a good time but its very true that there are some disgruntled voices

We have pop on the rise on manny. The (morning my time) pop is consistently 20-30 instead of the 5-15. And in the evenings we are seeing more and more.

LRP preferring players would probably rather be playing on Sybil. But nobody else is on it and the gang is all on manny so why would you bother? Its a self feeding problem.

Currently there is no reason for a player that prefers lrp to go over there when they can get both the pop and the lrp experience on manny


I am happy to see that the player base is able to get along in one sandbox. But it cannot be denied that everybody would be having even more fun if we got people playing in the other sandbox too.

Yes, but what are your plans to address this issue?

It wont be an overnight solution but I think by trying to foster the MRP environment again and encouraging folks to try sybil if they arent a fan of the rp rules is a good start

[iansdoor]

Sybil is dead, and we're basically operating a two server framework here, Manuel (whose core audience is either sick of LRP refugees coming in or has already left) and Terry. What, if, any, plans do you have to try to increase population counts?

Well, there is a few issues at hand. One being admin interest to sit and chatter with folks on Sybil, I did do that for most of the spring/summer 2024 and when I left, the population graph tanked. Second, cultivating a vibe that wasn't that terrible selfishness that drove folks away in the first place. My heart broke when Ani Myu left due to harassment of Sybil players and Fabian and several others joined her to manuel. I don't see any issue of going to different server just to vibe, but her reasoning was every round harassment. Third, Aaron and myself had to plead with the headmins at the time to force rule changes, simply because antagonist on LRP with barely any pop, had free reign to just break into bridge or engineering, get an axe and break into the armory via the windows in less than 2 minutes. I noted them not for that, but for blasting folks trying to speedrun their own death, which they didn't die buffed lasers are pretty strong against no armored and then next shift a different person would do it.

If there was to be a change to sybil, it would have to start with several admins interested in the server for it thrive. I couldn't do it alone on my evenings.

[Ezel]

I'd honestly would slim the map rotation pool down to 4 maps, since certain maps already kill pop pretty quick and it wouldnt help a already dying server so the rotation would probaly consist to something like Meta, Delta, Icebox, Birdshot can't really go wrong with that rotation, introdicing the other maps back once it gets a more stable pop. and then as xzero said about outting the bar higher on the MRP envoirement and encourage players that dont like the RP rules to go to sybil, i think the combination if these two things could work really well to build pop back up.