[Llaren Hlaalo] - Ekaterina von Russland - babymin's first power trip

[ekaterina]

BYOND account: Ekaterina von Russland

Ban/note type (Server Ban/Discord Ban/Forum Ban/Note): Note

Ban/note duration: Note
Ban/note reason: Used the phrase "Let the Liggie" out referencing a lizard who was trapped in AI sat an asked for help. Was notified that as per policy words like Ligger and various variations of it are not allowed. Argued that liggie is not a slur and sounds cute. That doesnt change anything policy-wise. As liggie a diminutive form of the word ligger, with no other explanation for its origins.
Time ban was placed: Note
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 249770

Why are you making this appeal? (Put an x in the boxes):
(X) - The ban/note is factually incorrect
(X) - The ban/note is not against the rules
() - The ban/note needs modification
() - The ban was unjustifiably harsh
() - I was permabanned and I want another chance

Why should this appeal be accepted?: The note is so nonsensical I feel no further commentary is needed (but will render it nonetheless) and can only surmise that the reason it exists to begin with is some form of power trip.

"Liggie" bears no resemblance to any slur and the understandable logic leading to the prohibition of "ligger" makes zero sense when transported to this context, whether from a legalistic perspective or a common sense perspective.

As to it being "a diminutive form of the word ligger", that is pure speculation on his part which he illicitly presents as fact in the note he invented.

Llaren Hlaalo claimed policy existed forbidding "liggie" but refused to point me towards said policy, instead saying "Feel free to think of me as a dictator or something".

[Timberpoes]

So this was discussed in the admin channels prior to the note being placed, where Llaren asked for advice on using liggie.

It is our ruling that liggie bears significant resemblance to the word ligger.

I advised Llaren that liggie is infact just a tad little teenie weenie completely and exactly too close to ligger, sharing 5 out of 6 letters of which the first 4 are in the correct order.

I advised Llaren to place a note telling you that ligger is no longer acceptable on tgstation. This procedure is as per our guidance of noting as a first-last-only warning for players that use a variant of ligger and seem unaware that it has been prohibited - or in your case, where you think your special variation distinct enough to not fall under the ruling

They did as I requested.

Regarding the note itself, it appears to be both factually and materially accurate. It also does not seem that the note's contents or existence are unjustifiably harsh to your standing in the eyes of admins reading it.

One would suggest you avoid sliding errant g letters where there were previously none into comments directed at lizards in the future, doubly-so for the li-double-g.

The note will be upheld.

Timberpoes: Uphold
Omega: Uphold
DrAmazing: Saw the discussion in admin channels, did not oppose or challenge it, implied uphold.

[Timberpoes]

Because Ekat has expressed extreme disgust at the note being handwritten and paraphrasing them, I have replaced the handwritten part with a log entry part to make them happy!

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ADMIN LOG: Timberpoes/(Timberpoes) has edited a note  for Ekaterina von Russland made by Llaren Hlaalo from
Used the phrase "Let the Liggie" out referencing a lizard who was trapped in AI sat an asked for help. Was notified that as per policy words like Ligger and various variations of it are not allowed. Argued that liggie is not a slur and sounds cute. That doesnt change anything policy-wise. As liggie a diminutive form of the word ligger, with no other explanation for its origins.
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GAME-SAY: ekaterinavonrussland/(Marina Rudinova) (mob_3402) "let the liggie out" (Medbay Treatment Center (105,162,3)) referencing a lizard who was trapped in AI sat an asked for help. Was notified that as per policy words like ligger and various variations of it are not allowed. Argued that liggie is not a slur and sounds cute. That doesnt change anything policy-wise. As liggie a diminutive form of the word ligger, with no other explanation for its origins.

I hope the end result truly makes them happy. Another satisfied Timberpoes voter.