Jshilingthe15th server ban appeal

[Rylee1]

Admin name: Tax Fraud
BYOND account:[Jshilingthe15th]
Ban/note type (Check what applies):[Perma]
Server Ban[Y]
Note[N/A]
Forum Ban[N]
Discord Ban[N]

Ban/note length:[Inf]
Ban/note reason:["self-admitted they would meta grudge another player for having previously ruined their round in admin PM's"]
Time ban was placed:[2:20~ Pm]
Server you were playing on when banned:[Sybil]
Round ID in which ban was placed:[231673]

Why are you making this appeal?(Check what applies):[To be unbanned]
The ban/note is factually incorrect[N]
The ban/note is not against the rules[Y]
The ban/note needs modification[Y]
The ban was unjustifiably harsh[Y]
I was permabanned and I want another chance[Y]

Why should this appeal be accepted?:[I was banned for saying I would meta grudge someone but I never did nor will I meta grudge them, I was banned for something I never did nor will do.]

[Thursday]

Keeping this brief because like, I don't really know what to tell you besides what was already discussed by us in the ticket. Your actions leading up to your ban made it very clear that you had a bone to pick with the player in question considering just how often you kept bringing them up and the fact that you were actively looking for any opportunities to get on-station, assumedly to grief or kill them. So when you tell me outright in admin PMs that you're going to break the rules by metagrudging them the next time you find them, it's hard not to take it as a genuine admission of bad faith intentions. So as of the current moment I don't see much of a reason to remove the ban, sorry.

[Rylee1]

a perma ban for a one time threat to kill someone?

[Rylee1]

this is far to harsh i say it should be at most 3 days

[Thursday]

Well, I probably would've given you 3 days or maybe a week, but you also have a couple of job bans from Beestation AND a full on server ban from Monkestation only a month ago, so that combined with how you were acting in the ticket was the reason why I decided to put it to a permaban.

[Thursday]

Also just to clarify it wasn't a one time threat to kill someone, it was a one time threat to metagrudge someone, infinitely worse to say.

[Thursday]

Also also to clarify even further, here's the ticket in case someone else wants to read it or you don't remember what went down in it:

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From Ticket #2 during round 231673 on Sybil:

---- Log Begins ----
2024-07-05 19:59:32: Ticket Opened by taxfraud: Sooo does this insistence on you getting teleported to dorms have anything to do with your insistence on killing the captain for some random reason.
2024-07-05 20:00:54: Reply from jshilingthe15th: insistence? i asked once and no its as i want to spy on the station from the inside as the comms base is a bad role also i already gave the gun to you via removing it
2024-07-05 20:02:41: Reply from taxfraud: "admin ill make a trade if you kill the cap ill take a perma ban"<br />

"hope i get a good ghost role so i can kill that mother fucker"<br />

"ok if you smite them ill take a week ban"<br />

"one smite for me getting a week ban"<br />

"fine im blowing the base up and wasting the role"<br />

but why tho
2024-07-05 20:04:02: Reply from jshilingthe15th: they ruined my round so im going to lightly beat them to death over and over for each round i ever see them in playing this server
2024-07-05 20:05:20: Reply from jshilingthe15th: i was having a good round till they starting beating the shit out of me for attacking an apc to take back something someone stole
2024-07-05 20:05:36: Reply from jshilingthe15th: so fuck them
2024-07-05 20:07:40: Reply from taxfraud: It really just sounds like you might want to take a short break off TG to calm yourself down because not only is doing that like, super exhausting to keep up, but also 110% against the rules.
2024-07-05 20:10:05: Reply from taxfraud: Sooo did you get that last message of mine or
2024-07-05 20:10:29: Reply from jshilingthe15th: was not looking one sec
2024-07-05 20:11:00: Reply from jshilingthe15th: so i have done zero attacking on them and you are banning me?
2024-07-05 20:11:36: Reply from jshilingthe15th: i never came back to attack them nor have i so far
2024-07-05 20:12:31: Reply from taxfraud: I said that if you're going to try and beat them over the head constantly over a previous round like you have explicitly said to me that you wanted to, then yeah that's probably the outcome. But you haven't, and I'm telling you before it does happen that you should probably just let whatever happened in that previous round go. Again, it's just not worth it to waste your time and likely get banned for a grudge.
2024-07-05 20:14:39: Reply from jshilingthe15th: i can hold grudges how i want and if i get banned for targeting them and killing them for ruining my round then thats my fault and then you can punish me how you see fit
2024-07-05 20:15:00: Reply from jshilingthe15th: yet i have not yet
2024-07-05 20:15:39: Reply from jshilingthe15th: im not saying much but i would be ready to ban someone
2024-07-05 20:16:00: Reply from jshilingthe15th: as that mother fuckers gonna get round removed
2024-07-05 20:21:22: Reply from taxfraud: So true bestie
2024-07-05 20:21:25: Client disconnected
2024-07-05 20:21:25: <a>Tax Fraud</a>/(Morgan Holloway) has created a permanent server ban for Jshilingthe15th.
2024-07-05 20:21:26: Resolved by Tax Fraud
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This ticket can be viewed:

• By the affected player: http://statbus.space/tickets/231673/2
• By admins: http://statbus.space/tgdb/tickets/231673/2

This ticket was generated by Statbus v.1.19.0

And here's the Monkestation ban from your public ban list

Server Ban | MonkeStation | Active
NRP tiding, metacomming with Professional dinkle, lying in ahelps. Very obvious griefer, wasting our time. Dont come back.
Banned: 2024-06-17 20:17:43 Admin: cororeed Origin Ban ID: 7398

I hope you can see why these two things combined made me think a permaban was the best option from my POV.

[Rylee1]

so is it forever stuck on a perma ban? like will I need to just wait or are you telling me ill need to find some other way to play on tg station?

[Thursday]

Well, you haven't exactly given me any reason as to why I should reduce it down from a permaban, which is what I thought you were trying to appeal for. So unless you can give a good reason as to why I should, as of the current moment it's probably staying a permaban.

Also:

or are you telling me ill need to find some other way to play on tg station?

Trying to play /tg/ while you're currently banned is ban evading, which is also against the rules, much like metagrudging is. Please consider not doing that or it's definitely staying a permaban.

[Rylee1]

best i can give you is i wont tell you ill metagrudge and I wont do it in the first place

[Thursday]

Well, if that's the best you can give right now, I'm sorry but I'll have to say no to overturning the permaban I put down, at least for now. But if you give this say... 4 months, assuming you don't get into trouble on another server, if you appeal again there's a pretty OK chance I'll end up overturning the ban.

[Thursday]

I'm gonna assume this appeal is resolved for the time being but in case you do have anything you want to say I'll leave this open for another day and a half before I lock and move this.