Ban appeal: Sec job bad Strider13

[fizziz2]

BYOND account: Fizziz
Character name: Prometheus Aloexopolus
Ban type: Sec roles
Ban length: 3 days
Ban reason: Banned from Roles: Head of Security, security, Warden, Detective, Security Officer for 3 days - As Detective, used shock touch on a crew member and shot them into crit when they retaliated. Already has a recent note for improper security conduct. Appeal on forums if you can explain your reasoning.
Server you were playing on when banned:/tg/station Terry EU
Round ID in which ban was placed: 189397
Your side of the story: I saw the player that I crited use shock touch on another player before using it on him myself since I thought we were all joking with it, then he went ahead and attacked me he was Hulk so I shot him into crit and let him be brought off into med. I did not just randomly shoot this guy and crit him out of cold blood, I just did to him what he did to other players and he used it as a reason to escalate further until he got his final result. Sorry if I did not communicate properly to admins I had to leave abruptly due to real life issues.
I hope you will reconsider my case in light of the new evidence.
Thank you,
Fizziz

[san7890]

Banning admin was striders13. It would be great if you could amend your title to reflect this.

[Striders13]

Hi there, thanks for appealing.

The event occured on R189909, and the ban was placed next round.
Link to parsed logs of that round: https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/ter ... nd-189909/

I'd like to clear up a couple of things. As far as I can see, it went down as such -
Sorrel was using shock touch on a monkeyman:

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[2022-09-05 13:54:21.113] ATTACK: Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) cast the spell Shock Touch. (Genetics Lab (113,82,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:22.505] ATTACK: Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) attacked *no key*/(Audrey Coldsmith) with �shock touch (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 100)  (Genetics Lab (113,81,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:22.507] ATTACK: Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) cast the touch spell Shock Touch on *no key*/(Audrey Coldsmith) with the �shock touch (NEWHP: 87.5)  (Genetics Lab (113,81,2))

You proceeded to use shock touch on them:

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[2022-09-05 13:54:27.805] ATTACK: Fizziz/(Prometheus Alexopoulos) attacked Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) with �shock touch (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 83.9)  (Genetics Lab (113,82,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:27.805] ATTACK: Fizziz/(Prometheus Alexopoulos) cast the touch spell Shock Touch on Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) with the �shock touch (NEWHP: 83.9)  (Genetics Lab (113,82,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:31.369] SAY: Fizziz/(Prometheus Alexopoulos) "wow" (Genetics Lab (113,83,2))

Sorrel punched you once, and you shot them into crit:

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[2022-09-05 13:54:32.556] SAY: Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!" FORCED by hulk (Genetics Lab (113,82,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:32.561] ATTACK: Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) punched Fizziz/(Prometheus Alexopoulos) with hulk powers (NEWHP: 66.4)  (Genetics Lab (113,82,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:33.896] EMOTE: Fizziz/(Prometheus Alexopoulos) sniffs. (Genetics Lab (113,85,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:35.785] ATTACK: Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) cast the spell Shock Touch. (Research Division (114,89,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:36.850] ATTACK: Fizziz/(Prometheus Alexopoulos) fired at [reinforced glass floor] with .38 bullet from Research Division (Research Division (121,89,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:36.928] ATTACK: Fizziz/(Prometheus Alexopoulos) shot Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) with .38 bullet (NEWHP: 83.9)  (Research Division (122,89,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:37.147] ATTACK: Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) cast the touch spell Shock Touch on [reinforced glass floor] with the �shock touch (Research Division (120,89,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:37.320] ATTACK: Fizziz/(Prometheus Alexopoulos) fired at [reinforced glass floor] with .38 bullet from Research Division (Research Division (123,89,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:37.369] ATTACK: Fizziz/(Prometheus Alexopoulos) shot Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) with .38 bullet (NEWHP: 58.9)  (Research Division (124,89,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:37.371] ATTACK: Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) suffered: Minor Breakage to chest | Damage: 25 (rolled 68/90.5975) | WB: -25 | BWB: 5 (Research Division (122,89,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:38.073] ATTACK: Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) punched [SciDrobe] with hulk powers (Research Division (124,89,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:42.505] EMOTE: Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) sneezes. (Genetics Lab (112,84,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:45.442] ATTACK: Fizziz/(Prometheus Alexopoulos) fired at [shuttle floor] with .38 bullet from Aft Primary Hallway (Aft Primary Hallway (108,82,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:45.448] ATTACK: Fizziz/(Prometheus Alexopoulos) shot Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) with .38 bullet (NEWHP: 35.5)  (Aft Primary Hallway (108,82,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:45.543] SAY: Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!" FORCED by hulk (Aft Primary Hallway (108,83,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:45.547] ATTACK: Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) punched Fizziz/(Prometheus Alexopoulos) with hulk powers (NEWHP: 51.4)  (Aft Primary Hallway (108,83,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:46.230] ATTACK: Fizziz/(Prometheus Alexopoulos) fired at [floor] with .38 bullet from Aft Primary Hallway (Aft Primary Hallway (108,79,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:46.233] ATTACK: Fizziz/(Prometheus Alexopoulos) shot Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) with .38 bullet (NEWHP: 10.5)  (Aft Primary Hallway (108,79,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:47.633] ATTACK: Sxmething/(Joe Madre) shoved Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) (NEWHP: -14.5)  (Aft Primary Hallway (107,79,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:49.270] ATTACK: Sxmething/(Joe Madre) shoved Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) with knocking them down (NEWHP: -14.5)  (Aft Primary Hallway (107,77,2))
[2022-09-05 13:54:49.598] WHISPER: Helios12345/(Sorrel Muller) "alpha 112" (Aft Primary Hallway (108,77,2))

What I'm interested in is, did you not realize that he was using shock touch on a monkeyman?

[Striders13]

ban expired like a week ago and there has been no response, so appeal again if you want.