Rip trump

[wesoda25]

Bottom post of the previous page:

From what I’ve seen (like 3 of the most popular incidents) all of the incidents have been proven baseless. There was the hiccup with the 9 military ballots but as Sticky said that was promptly handled by the checks and balances installed in the system. Once again it’s Trump leaping upon shadowy information to spread misinformation and accusations.

[XSI]

Why would I bother responding to people who have already decided to both take this all 100% serious and not to accept anything I will say anyway?
I'm just in this for the shitposting

[Space Panda]

yeah i'm sure you are

[Timonk]

Tell us who you voted for maybe you feel comfortable saying that

[oranges]

Are you okay?
You always seemed unhinged but you seem to have problems

comprehensively dismantled in public

r u ok?

[Qbmax32]

We backed the wrong side in World War 2.

lol

[Qbmax32]

also laughing at trump supporters desperately trying to find any reason why their candidate lost except that there are more intelligent people in this country then braindead drooling retards this time around. cant wait for 2024

[cybersaber101]

America politics stinky

[Grazyn]

I saw a video of an old guy in a Hawaiian shirt saying that Trump watermarked the ballots with isotopes so theres nothing to fear, the fraud will soon be exposed

[Screemonster]

isotopes of what

does he know what an isotope is

[remanseptim]

SLOW AND STEADY BROS

[Screemonster]

rudy giuliani set up a website for reporting voter fraud but there's no character limit on the form so people have just been sending him the entire bee movie

[XivilaiAnaxes]

also laughing at trump supporters desperately trying to find any reason why their candidate lost except that there are more intelligent people in this country then braindead drooling retards this time around. cant wait for 2024

I'm sorry, but I have to let you know that there really aren't any intelligent people in your country.

[XSI]

Tell us who you voted for maybe you feel comfortable saying that

>Implying I'm even american
I'm across the atlantic and I give no shits about this outside of the shitposting. Aside from that I am just very cynical and when I see bullshit I will call it out. There has 100% been fraud in the election, to say otherwise is naive and willfully ignorant. The only question is whether it's been enough to change the results in a meaningful way, and whether or not the courts find enough of it to change whatever the results are.
This has been the case in every US election since at the least Bush (When I started paying attention to it), but most likely long before that too

rudy giuliani set up a website for reporting voter fraud but there's no character limit on the form so people have just been sending him the entire bee movie

I love this and the JEBposting too

But this is also a special kind of entertainment

[Lumbermancer]

I saw a video of an old guy in a Hawaiian shirt saying that Trump watermarked the ballots with isotopes so theres nothing to fear, the fraud will soon be exposed

[Grazyn]

Wasn't the russian interference thing about hacked e-mails and not literally rigging votes?

The isotope thing is called "Operation sting" if you want to know more

[Lumbermancer]

[Lumbermancer]

civil war now

[MMMiracles]

cope harder salad BOY

[Super Aggro Crag]

I can cope fine, I already had to deal with 8 years of Obama.

[cacogen]

Well, Biden isn't great, but anyone is light years better than Trump. Hopefully Biden locks him up. For violating the emoluments clause, for example. I doubt it though.

[Super Aggro Crag]

i disagree cacogen

[Stickymayhem]

Tell us who you voted for maybe you feel comfortable saying that

>Implying I'm even american
I'm across the atlantic and I give no shits about this outside of the shitposting. Aside from that I am just very cynical and when I see bullshit I will call it out. There has 100% been fraud in the election, to say otherwise is naive and willfully ignorant. The only question is whether it's been enough to change the results in a meaningful way, and whether or not the courts find enough of it to change whatever the results are.
This has been the case in every US election since at the least Bush (When I started paying attention to it), but most likely long before that too

rudy giuliani set up a website for reporting voter fraud but there's no character limit on the form so people have just been sending him the entire bee movie

I love this and the JEBposting too

But this is also a special kind of entertainment

ha ha ha i have no stake in this i dont care!
>dumps copespiracy after copespiracy
ha ha ha im not even american lol epic!
>can't bear to end post without another pol meme

[XSI]

Wasn't the russian interference thing about hacked e-mails and not literally rigging votes?

Yes. The thing there was that Russia interfered by telling people to look up what Hillary did or something. Either way, not something that actually mattered or would sway anyone's vote. It was common knowledge that Hillary was not a very kind or friendly person

Also I like how Sticky appears insane even when he is supporting someone who won for a change

[Stickymayhem]

Wasn't the russian interference thing about hacked e-mails and not literally rigging votes?

Yes. The thing there was that Russia interfered by telling people to look up what Hillary did or something. Either way, not something that actually mattered or would sway anyone's vote. It was common knowledge that Hillary was not a very kind or friendly person

Also I like how Sticky appears insane even when he is supporting someone who won for a change

Oh SHIT dude i just got absolutely fucking wrecked boys it's over, damn dude. What a fucking bummer man I just got owned dude I'll never recover

He said I'm insane? Woah man how did I not think to do that damn son btfoed

[Super Aggro Crag]

lmao calm down sticky take your meds

[Stickymayhem]

lmao calm down sticky take your meds

Don't project

[Super Aggro Crag]

amazing how quickly you flip from "dude i care about you you're a good guy" to "BITE THE FUCKING CURB BROKEBRAIN"

[Lacran]

There's a fine line between discussing politics and derranged ranting. Crag is a perfect litmus test of where to find that line.

[Lumbermancer]

Wasn't the russian interference thing about hacked e-mails and not literally rigging votes?

Yes. The thing there was that Russia interfered by telling people to look up what Hillary did or something. Either way, not something that actually mattered

Did you read the Muellers Report, I wonder?

Spoiler:

If I was an American, I would be pissed. Even if the election wasn't rigged, it's unwise to act like the meme yellow cartoon dog.

[MisterPerson]

Trump's tweeting he won the election in all caps like an actual lunatic. Keep in mind even if we just gave him enough votes to win AZ, NV, WI, and GA, he'd still be behind by 4 million votes. Some "victory" that would be.

Listen, I'm not saying that I want it to go to court. I'm just saying that it probably will. Unless you think Trump will just tuck his rhetoric into his back pocket and sheepishly slink away after loudly proclaiming that there was election fraud.

There isn't anything to sue over. He literally has no case at all. Throwing out the post-election day votes from PA wouldn't be enough to overturn the election even if 100% of them went to Biden. Additionally if Biden wins AZ, NV, and GA, then overturning PA outright also wouldn't be enough for Trump to win.

That's not even getting into the simple fact there's no evidence of voter fraud.

[XSI]

I've not bothered reading that, no. There's nothing entertaining in it for me and it doesn't actually tell anything truly new.
From that picture you've posted, it tells me that they've not actually done anything out of the ordinary. 4chan did worse than that several times just because they thought it was funny, so if Russia really can't do better than some bored chanfolk I don't see Russia as the problem. It's the government failing at security

If the people were pissed about everything they should be pissed about, they'd never calm down again and we'd see the guilotines come out again. But instead of that their anger is directed by media and politics to aim at people that are socially accepted as targets of anger.

[Lumbermancer]

So where do you draw the line? At Salisbury? Clearly not.

[Farquaar]

Listen, I'm not saying that I want it to go to court. I'm just saying that it probably will. Unless you think Trump will just tuck his rhetoric into his back pocket and sheepishly slink away after loudly proclaiming that there was election fraud.

There isn't anything to sue over. He literally has no case at all. Throwing out the post-election day votes from PA wouldn't be enough to overturn the election even if 100% of them went to Biden. Additionally if Biden wins AZ, NV, and GA, then overturning PA outright also wouldn't be enough for Trump to win.

It doesn't matter if the lawsuit will help Trump win the presidential race or not. There have been reports of Republican election observers being denied access to poll counting locations and video footage of poll workers covering up windows of counting rooms to prevent observers from looking in. This alone is a violation of Michigan state law.

That's not even getting into the simple fact there's no evidence of voter fraud.

Listen, I don't care if Trump is out of office. I never liked him, and I'm satisfied with the results of congressional and senate elections. Even if there was voter fraud, it would be on such a small scale that the outcome of the presidential race wouldn't really be affected. But it would make things easier for everyone if Democrats didn't go kicking and screaming every time a Republican points out an election irregularity. Transparency is key to making this go smoothly.

[oranges]

I AM DONE WITH THIS COUNTRY. I shall be leaving the USA shortly with my wife in disgust at this situation . Mexico is a much more welcome place. I’d rather be in a stable country like theirs as opposed to one run by Biden. My kids are scared of him!!!

[Armhulen]

Listen, I'm not saying that I want it to go to court. I'm just saying that it probably will. Unless you think Trump will just tuck his rhetoric into his back pocket and sheepishly slink away after loudly proclaiming that there was election fraud.

There isn't anything to sue over. He literally has no case at all. Throwing out the post-election day votes from PA wouldn't be enough to overturn the election even if 100% of them went to Biden. Additionally if Biden wins AZ, NV, and GA, then overturning PA outright also wouldn't be enough for Trump to win.

It doesn't matter if the lawsuit will help Trump win the presidential race or not. There have been reports of Republican election observers being denied access to poll counting locations and video footage of poll workers covering up windows of counting rooms to prevent observers from looking in. This alone is a violation of Michigan state law.

This was not proven in court. Trump admin admitted they actually did have observers in there and so the case was dead in the water

That's not even getting into the simple fact there's no evidence of voter fraud.

Listen, I don't care if Trump is out of office. I never liked him, and I'm satisfied with the results of congressional and senate elections. Even if there was voter fraud, it would be on such a small scale that the outcome of the presidential race wouldn't really be affected. But it would make things easier for everyone if Democrats didn't go kicking and screaming every time a Republican points out an election irregularity. Transparency is key to making this go smoothly.

What Dems are doing are shooting down crackpot theories, not actual cases. Stopping disinformation is important, so when people claim that their vote wasn't counted because of a sharpie it's important to correct it whenever possible with the fact that sharpies are still counted for ballots.

(motion to dismiss imminent on this backwater ass lawsuit)

Spoiler:

[Farquaar]

It doesn't matter if the lawsuit will help Trump win the presidential race or not. There have been reports of Republican election observers being denied access to poll counting locations and video footage of poll workers covering up windows of counting rooms to prevent observers from looking in. This alone is a violation of Michigan state law.

This was not proven in court. Trump admin admitted they actually did have observers in there and so the case was dead in the water

I never said it was proven in court. I only said that the reports were sufficient to bring a court case. If the Trump campaign admitted that their observers were permitted inside, then of course their case falls apart, and they were stupid for submitting it in the first place.

That's not even getting into the simple fact there's no evidence of voter fraud.

Listen, I don't care if Trump is out of office. I never liked him, and I'm satisfied with the results of congressional and senate elections. Even if there was voter fraud, it would be on such a small scale that the outcome of the presidential race wouldn't really be affected. But it would make things easier for everyone if Democrats didn't go kicking and screaming every time a Republican points out an election irregularity. Transparency is key to making this go smoothly.

What Dems are doing are shooting down crackpot theories, not actual cases. Stopping disinformation is important, so when people claim that their vote wasn't counted because of a sharpie it's important to correct it whenever possible with the fact that sharpies are still counted for ballots.

(motion to dismiss imminent on this backwater ass lawsuit)

Spoiler:

I'm all for shooting down crackpot theories, because I'm in favour of providing the public with accurate information. Again, transparency is key, and I'd like to see reasonable reports of irregularities addressed in a timely fashion. Everyone's talking past each other on this issue, and the media stonewalling on seemingly legitimate issues that had arisen in this election is only furthering the spread of misinformation, not tamping down on it.

[Shaps-cloud]

Call arizona you fucking cowards

[Lumbermancer]

and the media stonewalling on seemingly legitimate issues that had arisen in this election.

Do they though?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... -no-fraud/
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/fact ... 189820002/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/atlan ... aud-video/
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/06/us/p ... fraud.html

etc. etc.

literally google "fraud" with state name, and look through the mainstream media

[Farquaar]

and the media stonewalling on seemingly legitimate issues that had arisen in this election.

Do they though?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... -no-fraud/
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/fact ... 189820002/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/atlan ... aud-video/
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/06/us/p ... fraud.html

etc. etc.

literally google "fraud" with state name, and look through the mainstream media

Perhaps I phrased that incorrectly. It is true that the media has published plenty of articles concerning spurious accusations that there was widespread organized voter fraud in key states. My criticism was more to the point that loud proclamations from the media that there was "zero election fraud" are objectively incorrect. There is small-scale election fraud in every election- 2020 was no exception.

[MisterPerson]

I never said it was proven in court. I only said that the reports were sufficient to bring a court case. If the Trump campaign admitted that their observers were permitted inside, then of course their case falls apart, and they were stupid for submitting it in the first place.

That's exactly what happened in all cases so far. Every single suit alleging even small improprieties has been thrown out of court for being meritless. If they have some other evidence, they need to bring it up. But they won't, because no such evidence exists, because there's not that kind of widespread voter fraud.

I'm all for shooting down crackpot theories, because I'm in favour of providing the public with accurate information. Again, transparency is key, and I'd like to see reasonable reports of irregularities addressed in a timely fashion. Everyone's talking past each other on this issue, and the media stonewalling on seemingly legitimate issues that had arisen in this election is only furthering the spread of misinformation, not tamping down on it.

There's nothing to report. Literally. Lemme walk you through a case in PA. A Republican poll watcher alleged there were errors being made in the state's "curing" procedure where they correct errors with ballots. Two examples would be calling the person they got the vote from to make sure it's them or checking to make sure someone casting a provisional ballot didn't also mail a ballot. The complaint was over around 100 ballots in total, and the court determined that there were no errors being made and the ballots were valid.

Now imagine you're a news agency. Does that sound like an exciting story? Do you report on that?

[Rustledjimm]

Trump has straight up lost. There is no coming back from this.


Even if some voter fraud is found those votes will be removed and a recount performed. This would have to happen in MULTIPLE states and even after getting to the recount Trump would then have to win said recount in MULTIPLE states.

It's not happening.

[Grazyn]

Making a call here that the recounts and lawsuits will be enough to flip Wisconsin, Michigan and Georgia. Trump will be the next POTUS

[cacogen]

How much money would you like to bet

[Grazyn]

You don't have to complete a recount to flip a state. Just have the SCOTUS stop it while Trump is ahead

[Armhulen]

You don't have to complete a recount to flip a state. Just have the SCOTUS stop it while Trump is ahead

You don't "get" votes you have votes. A recount's only purpose is to remove fraudulent votes, not let SCOTUS decide who wins. Trust me on this, setting the precedent that the courts can randomly cut out however many votes they want to allow a party to win whilst also serving for life is a very quick way to lose the title of "democratic"

Can't we just agree that using fraudulent votes to unfairly win is insanely corrupt, but also using a bipartisan life position to force a party winner they like is also insanely corrupt? I don't want anyone who cheated their way into office in office, it betrays the country's foundational ideals of liberty and justice

[XSI]

If you're expecting 'democratic' from the US you're in for a lot of surprises both in the future and if you check the history books

That said the biggest things I've heard now is investigations into voting machines and counting software that re-assigned Trump votes to Biden in multiple key states. The same software was found to have led to irregularities in the 2016 election as well, though there's no solid proof of it doing any of this because for some reason voting machines are protected from inspections under multiple laws, including copyright and trade secret stuff

Here's a thing I got linked about those, highlighting the irregularities from 2016(Article from 2018)
https://medium.com/@inboulder/the-curio ... 9843a3fb6a

Tl;dr version:
Statistics and accountancy methods used to determine if someone bullshits numbers finds that some election results are very likely to have been tampered with
All these 'likely tampered' results came from places using a specific voting machine/system that has now been used in the 2020 election in many contested states
No conclusive evidence, just a lot of "Something looks to be very wrong here". It is entirely possible for this to be just coincidence, but it's what accountants use to catch people evading taxes and hiding financial data so it's likely that something has been messed with

[Stickymayhem]

amazing how quickly you flip from "dude i care about you you're a good guy" to "BITE THE FUCKING CURB BROKEBRAIN"

You're literally mad at your own words my dude.

[Stickymayhem]

If you're expecting 'democratic' from the US you're in for a lot of surprises both in the future and if you check the history books

That said the biggest things I've heard now is investigations into voting machines and counting software that re-assigned Trump votes to Biden in multiple key states. The same software was found to have led to irregularities in the 2016 election as well, though there's no solid proof of it doing any of this because for some reason voting machines are protected from inspections under multiple laws, including copyright and trade secret stuff

Here's a thing I got linked about those, highlighting the irregularities from 2016(Article from 2018)
https://medium.com/@inboulder/the-curio ... 9843a3fb6a

Tl;dr version:
Statistics and accountancy methods used to determine if someone bullshits numbers finds that some election results are very likely to have been tampered with
All these 'likely tampered' results came from places using a specific voting machine/system that has now been used in the 2020 election in many contested states
No conclusive evidence, just a lot of "Something looks to be very wrong here". It is entirely possible for this to be just coincidence, but it's what accountants use to catch people evading taxes and hiding financial data so it's likely that something has been messed with

https://www.eipartnership.net/rapid-res ... nt-tell-us

[wesoda25]

lol

[MrAlphonzo]

lol