[KangTut] AAIoddysey - permaban

[AAIoddysey]

Byond account and character name: AAIoddysey N/A
Banning admin: KangTut
Ban type (What are you banned from?): bagil perma ban
Ban reason and length: As an overthrow leader he was caught and borged and then allowed the HoP he converted to kill the captain and lawyer as an asimov borg. Has a history of griefing and ban evading. Permanent Ban
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 2018-09-18 11:58:14
Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): Bagil
Your side of the story: https://gyazo.com/08e4b45299cb5d4a9ff9075b895bd3ab https://gyazo.com/05e1a4420ce21872d1b5e20668e26ef4 I don't understand, I was banned for completing my objectives when I became a Borg the robotoscist at the time pulled me over and gave me some type of chip and immediately a list of objectives came up and one of them was to kill the captain. I'm speechless all I feel is pure frustration and anger. I waited a year to actually appeal on this server. Can someone please explain also on-top of that I was a traitor Borg.
Why you think you should be unbanned: This was abuse and yearly er when I got on the server I was talking to this one admin and he said the reason why he became and admin was so he could ban people. I tried explaining to him that it was my objectives. He wouldn't listen.

[Kangtut]

You were still an asimov borg and let the HoP kill 2 humans and that's on top of having a history of griefing and ban evading. Even as an antag you are still bound by your laws.

[AAIoddysey]

SS13 is an amazing game, but i'm starting to wonder if this is how most admins really think what being an admin is all about being in control and banning people, thats not the purpose there suppose to make the round fun and ban people who deserve it. my objectives told me to do kill the captain.

[AAIoddysey]

THEN HOW WAS I SUPPOSE TO COMPLETE MY OBJECTIVES
WHAT IS GOING ON I TRIED EXPLAINING,

[AAIoddysey]

then why do you have bord as antags if they still have to follow there laws its so fucking stupid.

[AAIoddysey]

and the HOP was a fellow antag i couldn't stop him from harming them.

[AAIoddysey]

Ofcourse you wouldn't give a shit, you just enjoy banning people because it gives you a source of pleasure but you clearly find an excuse to BAN me EVEN THOUGH IT WAS IN MY FUCKING OBJECTIVES TO MAKE SURE THE CAP DIES.

[somerandomguy]

I was going to post this on his other appeal but never got around to it, this guy doesn't really have the best history on /vg/, and the meltdown he's having now seems suspiciously similar to the ones he had there (see especially: mrdarkcsgo ban reason, "badmins are goodmins" thread)

http://ss13.moe/forum/search.php?keywor ... mit=Search
http://ss13.moe/forum/search.php?keywor ... mit=Search

Also it's been made pretty clear before that borged traitors have to follow their laws, but can do their objectives if their laws allow, overthrow is kinda weird though.

Edit: this post is also especially useful
http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1 ... sey#p24833
Oh and this one
http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1 ... sey#p23521

[Cobby]

If you happened to get unbanned and a similar situation arises, just tell the hop that you’re Asimov a bunch so they get the hint to subvert you (but don’t actually say you want to be subverted)

[iamgoofball]

Overthrow is a brand new gamemode and this might of been an honest mistake, I think the game does want borg antags to.do their objectives still.

[BeeSting12]

We allow them to do their objectives as long as it's consistent with their laws. Had his HoP converted the lawyer/captain it would've been all good. This meltdown gives me the impression it's better to leave him banned though. For future reference, you fucked up here and it's a lot better to apologize and ask for an unban than it is to imply the admins ban people for fun.

[Arianya]

Denied.