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Post by Malkevin » #365814

Bottom post of the previous page:

Drynwyn wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:They also believed the sun was pushed by a giant shit beetle
i don't think it's controversial to say that ancient people had a better understanding of their own minds than astrophysics
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Considering that they believed a person's health was due to the balance of four types of bile, and that the best way to treat an imbalance was through bleeding or drilling into someone's skull...

No, it's safe to say the ancients were really fucking ignorant about everything
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"They believed it in the past" is pretty much as substantive an argument as "the bible said it", especially with how constantly things believed in the past were so extremely wrong.
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Re: 2k17 /pol/

Post by XSI » #365818

In the past they believed if you yawned, the devil could steal your soul from your mouth. Thats why people covered their mouth while yawning
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ShadowDimentio wrote:It's still happening today with corporations and the far left. Some corporation throws out a 3 minute propaganda video for them and they'll eat it up and shower them with praise, all the while the same corporation is gouging everyone for everything they can.
See this post?

This is reaching. This is trying way too hard.

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The counterpoint about reaching is that often this is what happens and denying people from being free to make assumptions for themselves basically protects the entities carrying it out under a guise of that would be too absurd. Sometimes conspiracy theorists find a conspiracy, some people call it wearing a tin hat and listening to Alex Jones whilst others call it real investigative journalism.

Crazy whack shit happens all the time, in reality & precautionary folklore like the Trojan horse which is probably the OG grandaddy of getting totally punked out of nowhere via something plausible but seeming inconcievable of all time. Otherwise i would say your proposed non-stretching view of reality is small, repetitive & arrogant to assume that you would know the way things would pan out.

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epic fail. you nerds need to learn tolerance. maybe try playing undertale thats a start.
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captain sawrge wrote:epic fail. you nerds need to learn tolerance. maybe try playing undertale thats a start.

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ShadowDimentio wrote:"They believed it in the past" is pretty much as substantive an argument as "the bible said it", especially with how constantly things believed in the past were so extremely wrong.
Again, my argument isn't actually "they believed it in the past", but XSI brought it up so I figured I'd mention it. I have presented previously a thorough argument not grounded in, or related to, "they believed it in the past". (https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 50#p365128)
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CosmicScientist wrote:
Wyzack wrote:
captain sawrge wrote:epic fail. you nerds need to learn tolerance. maybe try playing undertale thats a start.

spoken like a true SJW cuck go back to sewedan you subhuman
swedistan*

Keep up with the PC narrative that Sweden's cucked by imports.
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Post by Malkevin » #365963

The last Swedish king took refuge in the Ottoman empire after the russians made his anus bleed, so technically they have been the moslem's bitch for quite a while.
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So. Um. How do we fix the US without scalping DC.
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ThanatosRa wrote:So. Um. How do we fix the US without scalping DC.
scalp DC
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Drynwyn wrote:
ThanatosRa wrote:So. Um. How do we fix the US without scalping DC.
scalp DC
Pls no. No violence. But that is also how desperate and powerless I feel.
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Post by nsos » #366111

not to get overly political or anything but baked mac and cheese is good. all mac and cheese should be baked, if you're cooking it on a stovetop its not good
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Post by ColonicAcid » #366114

fuck mac and cheese

make pasta bakes.

they taste better and look better and you also get tomato sauce and cheese sauce its all gravy
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Post by XSI » #366119

Just get macaroni, some cheese, maybe a bit of meat like maybe little blocks of ham or slices of salami or something. Or meatballs...

And then pour ketchup on that
Just dump a load of ketchup on it
Surprisingly good that way, and easy to make too
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Post by Drynwyn » #366127

ThanatosRa wrote:
Drynwyn wrote:
ThanatosRa wrote:So. Um. How do we fix the US without scalping DC.
scalp DC
Pls no. No violence. But that is also how desperate and powerless I feel.
i concur; minimize violence. i just count DC's violence as violence.
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Post by Malkevin » #366145

Have you ever considered giving up on being rebel scum and rejoining the empire?
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>Joining the country where trolling someone online lands you a year in jail

I think we'll decline
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Malkevin wrote:The last Swedish king took refuge in the Ottoman empire after the russians made his anus bleed, so technically they have been the moslem's bitch for quite a while.
More a convenience as Sweden spent time beating up classic enemies of the Ottomans; Poland-Lithuania and the Russian Empire prior to Charles XII's defeat and exile. They also chased the Swedes out after they started demanding more and more and were booted out.
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Post by Malkevin » #366198

"They also chased the Swedes out after they started demanding more and more and were booted out."

Well that's ironic
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Live fire gun enthusiasts on the wall

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the only thing that can stop a bad drone with a drug

IS A GOOD DRONE WITH A GUN!
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Incomptinence wrote:the only thing that can stop a bad drone with a drug

IS A GOOD DRONE WITH A GUN!
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DemonFiren wrote:
Incomptinence wrote:the only thing that can stop a bad drone with a drug

IS A GOOD DRONE WITH A GUN!
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Drynwyn wrote:
DemonFiren wrote:
Incomptinence wrote:the only thing that can stop a bad drone with a drug

IS A GOOD DRONE WITH A GUN!
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Am I a bad person for thinking that it'd be funny if by some twisted miracle Al Franken became president and did his inaugural address in the Stuart Smalley voice?
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A drone is fine too.png
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Post by Malkevin » #366503

Wtf is that?
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Post by XSI » #366528

Its great, thats what it is
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Post by Screemonster » #366557

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lol

reminds me of today, I was watching TNG and got to the episode where Barclay made a bunch of holodeck programs for himself featuring other crewmembers in some very specific roles and then the crewmembers in question walked in on it
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Heh... retard Riker.
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oops there goes net neutrality
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Post by Anonmare » #366626

Woops there goes gravity
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Remember when Barclay was a spider
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Post by Malkevin » #366659

What exactly is the change the net neutrality?

I'm hearing conflicting things that its either a complete abolishment of net neutrality (hello getting arse raped by ISPs' carving up the net in separate fast lane packages) or just rolling back NN to pre-Obongo by only getting rid of article 2 (which allows ISPs to charge companies the privilege of not getting their bandwidth throttled)
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Pre obongo rolling. Obama's act only served to leave ISPs out of fines by the FTC by removing means in which their juden secret arts could be fined.

Just look at the extreme amount of lobbying ISPs lost by this going through. As an example, Tumblr, which is now owned by Verizon, was covertly hiding and making mass unfollows and unreblogs of anything related to the repeal.
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Post by XSI » #366674

You know they're up to no good because they're lobbying for it

Lobbying is like a universal way to show people that they have plans to fuck someone in the ass and want it pushed through quickly
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"may's authority"

hahaahahahahahhahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahaahahahahahahahahahahah

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Post by FantasticFwoosh » #366685

Question time was good watching, i do love my weekly scheduled politician verbal battering on public television.

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Post by bandit » #366703

technically the net neutrality thing does not take effect yet because of everyone suing the shit out of it, including several states, including mississippi of all places
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Post by Drynwyn » #366746

Malkevin wrote:What exactly is the change the net neutrality?

I'm hearing conflicting things that its either a complete abolishment of net neutrality (hello getting arse raped by ISPs' carving up the net in separate fast lane packages) or just rolling back NN to pre-Obongo by only getting rid of article 2 (which allows ISPs to charge companies the privilege of not getting their bandwidth throttled)
The changes do allow ISP's to discriminate against your traffic to particular websites, and to carve up the net into separate packages.
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Im sorry but this post requires a premium shitposting package to view for a monthly charge of $30 dollars a month.

Outside of generic "I just want to watch funny cat videos in peace" sentiments, net neutrality or more of a abuse of net neutrality i also think is going to effectively send what parts of the 3rd world does have partial internet access into the dark ages & generally decrease global economic GDP growth (many people won't be able to afford to run internet & to also shop online when they are being milked) plus global literacy to simply remain connected to the rest of the world.

In such a case its a bunch of legislative work to actively write up laws to define a state recommended level of net neutrality under their own definitions and even so thats open to gross abuse (not that spying on all your citizens through the internet was enough) and general incompetence in not making loopholes for others to exploit. If schools & educational facilities are not subsidized by public spending then its leaving out a lot of vital resources

Most public & a few private workplaces also have internal internet systems called intranet (which varies widely), its going to be more of a pain in the ass to have protections on these, or charge additional costs which may be unsustainable and again damage small businesses & put dents into economies.

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Post by Incomptinence » #366758

Also NN was put in place specifically due to them busting shit up for example throttling netflix back then.

So their husk's line about THE NET WAS FINE BEFORE is absolute horse shit they were the ones to ruin that state not regulations FNR.

The WEGULATION IS EXPENSIV line on this shit parroted by anyone dumb enough to not seethe at these customer betraying fucks is also against them net neutrality wasn't put into place for the fucking fun of it.
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Post by Grazyn » #366765

Incomptinence wrote:Also NN was put in place specifically due to them busting shit up for example throttling netflix back then.

So their husk's line about THE NET WAS FINE BEFORE is absolute horse shit they were the ones to ruin that state not regulations FNR.

The WEGULATION IS EXPENSIV line on this shit parroted by anyone dumb enough to not seethe at these customer betraying fucks is also against them net neutrality wasn't put into place for the fucking fun of it.
I still don't understand the issue, the fact that it wasn't regulated before doesn't mean that Netflix should be allowed to abuse the network for free. Companies like netflix, google, amazon and so on who freeload on the network is what is holding back investments in infrastructure in the first place. The issue is made even worse by those companies using it not just for profit, but for political propaganda as well. It's stupid to complain about ISPs throttling shit and demand better internet coverage at the same time. It's time people understand they can't have their cake and eat it too, ISPs aren't charities. And doosmday scenarios are still unlikely: you can keep shouting that internet is a basic necessity and a God-given human right, and while I may agree on that, Netflix sure isn't such a thing. Packages will allow more people to access all the internet they need for their daily life at a reduced price, precisely thanks to others paying more for "entertainment" packages.
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Re: 2k17 /pol/

Post by lntigracy » #366767

I'm paying a premium for a certain speed of internet.

I should not be throttled depending on different websites I go to because I am paying to have that specific speed already.
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Re: 2k17 /pol/

Post by Grazyn » #366769

lntigracy wrote:I'm paying a premium for a certain speed of internet.

I should not be throttled depending on different websites I go to because I am paying to have that specific speed already.
So you want even worse speed, coverage and infrastructure in the years to come? Because making you pay for premium speed is literally the least an ISP can do but it's a drop in the ocean of the investments needed to upgrade and maintain the network, and as the companies I mentioned keep choking it with larger and larger content, it will reach a critical point soon enough. So either way you're going to pay more for your internet plan in the future, but with packages at least you will have a choice and maybe it will be even cheaper if competition actually manages to arise.
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Re: 2k17 /pol/

Post by XSI » #366771

Grazyn wrote: I still don't understand the issue, the fact that it wasn't regulated before doesn't mean that Netflix should be allowed to abuse the network for free. Companies like netflix, google, amazon and so on who freeload on the network is what is holding back investments in infrastructure in the first place. The issue is made even worse by those companies using it not just for profit, but for political propaganda as well. It's stupid to complain about ISPs throttling shit and demand better internet coverage at the same time. It's time people understand they can't have their cake and eat it too, ISPs aren't charities. And doosmday scenarios are still unlikely: you can keep shouting that internet is a basic necessity and a God-given human right, and while I may agree on that, Netflix sure isn't such a thing. Packages will allow more people to access all the internet they need for their daily life at a reduced price, precisely thanks to others paying more for "entertainment" packages.
The problem here is that internet is more like roads and phone lines than like a luxury service where they can reasonably tell people to not use it. Nationalize it like normal infastructure and tax the users(Websites with economic activity, ISPs selling access, etc) to pay for, expand, and maintain this infastructure at reasonable levels

In before ancap MUH ROADS memes, this stuff needs to be maintained and accessible. And the ISPs in the US sure as fuck aren't going to do it

Edit: You are assuming basic packages for daily life will be at a reduced price. I like how optimistic you are but looking at history and the company track records it is also exceedingly unlikely that this is the case. More likely, the 'basic' package will be the current price of 'everything included', and then extra packages will come at a premium
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Re: 2k17 /pol/

Post by Incomptinence » #366776

You pay for what you can get in Aus adsl plans are comparably priced to much faster connection types.

You can still diversify price based on data caps (which they make anaemic for older infrastructure) peak time bandwidth etc.

Only in areas with superior infrastructure available do they need to drop the price for outdated tech.

Also with the case before NN the companies like netflix were not fucking freeloading in any case. You pay for bandwidth when hosting shit LIKE WE CROWD FUND FOR ON THIS VERY SERVER and the CUSTOMERS of the ISPs PAID for their internet service that accessed these websites to go at the fucking speed advertised by the ISP.
If you had proper consumer protection bodies false advertising would be the tip of the iceberg.

Glad the ACCC is taking ISPs to court over them pulling all sorts of dodgy shit with the NBN switch in AUS misleading people on cut off dates lying about speeds.
Proof perfect when these fucking parasites get the shitty neutered network and copper buy off they want they will always find a way to screw us over.
You just keep believing letting them get away with lying to you will get you better service Grazyn.
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Re: 2k17 /pol/

Post by Super Aggro Crag » #366786

"OY VEY DOSE DIRTY STREAMING SERVICES IS STEALING ALL OUR BANDWITH AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF US POOR INTERNET SOIVICE PROVIDERS CUZ OF DOSE RATS IN WASHINGTON"

>implying id forget that the ISPs around here are also the damn cable companies
>implying I dont see that they're just trying to snipe streaming services because they can't shekelize them with advertisements

NICE TRY SCHLOMO
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