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lntigracy · Post by **lntigracy** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:42 pm #342071

Bottom post of the previous page:

rip Rhodesia

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:45 pm #342074

In other words
It's still fucked, like the rest of Africa

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:05 pm #342103

XSI wrote:That actually happened already, didn't it?
Liberia
And then the emigrated US blacks got overrun by native african blacks and everything went to shit

I wonder if the natives clicked "didn't my ancestors sell your black arse?"

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:57 pm #342120

lntigracy wrote:rip Rhodesia

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:35 pm #342154

calzilla1 wrote:I say we send all those ground leg niggers back to Africa like we've should have done about 200 years ago. Would have happened too if Lincoln wasnt assassinated

What the fuck are you on about? We weren't even talking about blacks.

cedarbridge · Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:55 pm

starmute wrote:
calzilla1 wrote:I say we send all those ground leg niggers back to Africa like we've should have done about 200 years ago. Would have happened too if Lincoln wasnt assassinated
What the fuck are you on about? We weren't even talking about blacks.

Nobody told him that Puerto Rico is like, 75%+ white too.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:10 pm #342167

Isn't it hispanic or something?

All I really know of the place is that there's movies where criminals go there and pretend to be mexican while they spend all their money

Screemonster · Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:07 am

meanwhile on tumblr libs baffled by concept that someone can dislike hillary and not be a trump supporter

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:24 am #342492

"Wow, I'm sorry you had to embarrass yourself like this." is going to be my new evergreen tweet.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:30 am #342493

Tumblr has never been the place to find the most intelligent political discourse

But yes, Trump is kinda shit. But Hillary was just such a bad choice that even she lost to him.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:24 pm #342638

CosmicScientist wrote: I believe the final question was "Is Boris unsackable?" which raised more questions personally because him getting into the position of foreign minister was I want to say unexpected from a naive perspective and what happens if the clown does something that requires sacking? Theresa instead just laughed at the question.

Honk harder, pretend it's not a problem. Clowns will be clowns

I can only hope that the next prime minister has a different way of not answering questions so that I might be able to pretend the government does know what it's doing and isn't a group of students who are afraid of showing off their project or asking for help because it's fifty years past the deadline, which unlike school won't go away, and they spent half their funding on a big piss up.

This is an accurate way to think about politicians. The ones who do show off their projects proudly tend to have projects that suck terribly. Just like in school

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:14 pm #342880

CosmicScientist wrote:Are you okay, starmute? :<

Why would you think I'm not? Just curious. I'm in Las Vegas right now for a conference.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:06 pm #342885

Star mute is okay because they are the shooter

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:57 pm #342891

Christ... I didn't know. I'm in Henderson right now (its cheaper to be off the strip and the food is better in this particular casino). I passed out in my bed @ 6pm and wasn't paying attention to the news.

Well I guess I'm not going to the aquarium.

*edit kinda shook up its wierd around here

** Double edit. Casino section seems a little empty today. Day feels rather somber.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:20 pm #342898

CosmicScientist wrote:Wait but didn't the police shoot the shooter? How is starmute talking to us from beyond the grave?

Sorta, he killed himself

Super Aggro Crag · Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:15 pm

Oh boy it was an old white guy I can't wait to hear about this for the next seven years and for them to find five hundred MAGA hats hidden in his house

Like shit why are us white people so much better at mass murder then blacks and Arabs? Is it our logistics and planning? The Virginia tech killer was Asian and he killed a shitload of folk too. Is it racist to say that whites and Asians are better murderers?

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:34 pm #342994

Easier to aim when you don't hold your gun sideways

ShadowDimentio · Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:59 pm

MAGA stands for Make America Genocide Again, WAKE UP SHEEPLE

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:15 pm #343018

The cops didn't shoot him when he started shooting because he did it from far away and out of a window

SWAT teams did go floor to floor in that building to get him though.
Also unconfirmed reports of a woman making her way onto the stage and yelling "You are all going to die" and getting thrown out by security about 45 minutes before the shooting

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:39 pm #343043

Well today feels awful.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:42 pm #343046

Because of the shooting or something else?

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:54 pm #343057

The shooting. Everyone is so down, everyone is just... really sad here. I'm too easily affected by other people's emotions and I can't deal with all these people sobbing and being upset. I was expecting a good work week, followed by some jousting, followed by a trip to Mandalay bay aquarium (its a really nice shark aquarium). I mean... I look forward to this every year (not just getting kudos but the events too). Now I just feel drained and the day isn't even started. I'm probably just going to get some food and go to sleep. I'm just kinda processing this.

Super Aggro Crag · Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:56 pm

Yeah when the marathon got bombed everyone was super sad. Im glad i decided not to skip work and go to it with my friends

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:07 pm #343078

Super Aggro Crag wrote:Oh boy it was an old white guy I can't wait to hear about this for the next seven years and for them to find five hundred MAGA hats hidden in his house

Like shit why are us white people so much better at mass murder then blacks and Arabs? Is it our logistics and planning? The Virginia tech killer was Asian and he killed a shitload of folk too. Is it racist to say that whites and Asians are better murderers?

Whites murdering people is cultural appropriation.

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:47 pm #343125

Definitely a pall over town right now. Glad I live up northwest.

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:04 am #343163

Alright so... I'm playing stardew valley and relaxing. Feel better. I'll give you a couple of my thoughts

There is no reason why this would happen that I can think of. Both democrats and republicans enjoy country music, and Vegas is supposed to be a place to have fun.

19 guns in the room..... Okay. So I've hauled guns a bunch when I've grown up, mostly AR-15s. I own one and my dad owns 2. They are about 9 pounds each and a bit unwieldy. Roughly it would take about 10 trips up and down to take them up to the room. Converting them... its not that hard but it's illegal. Anyways the point... I guess that's a lot of work. Lots of planning... Ultimately... lots of hate. For what? I just don't get the point other than hurting random people on the street.

I mean.. a random attack like this usually isn't planned out like this.

I do think his girlfriend or someone knows something about this. It seems like too much for a person to hide and do alone.

Anyways... I'm going back to farming. Thankfully my job is over so.. I guess I can relax for the rest of the week, but I think the tournament of kings and the mandalay bay shark reef isn't going to happen again till 2018 for me.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:02 am #343222

From what I heard out of unconfirmed sources:
1. A lady went on stage and shouted everyone there was going to die about 45 minutes before the attack. She was thrown out by security(?)
2. The guy who did it apparently had social media full of anti-trump stuff. Not that that's uncommon these days

Signs point to a deranged idiot and a girlfriend who may have encouraged it or helped plan. Either way, shit's fucked. People should not do this sort of thing because that's just being awful
Other theories currently floated at said unconfirmed sources include it being a government thing for more gun control laws. Because of course the bodies were still warm when the first cries for harsher gun laws were heard

Meh, all these attacks and shootings are pretty shit

Super Aggro Crag · Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:16 am

I guarantee the antitrump stuff will never be brought up by mainstram media

Unconfirmed rumors that he was a multimillionaire with gambling debts too

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:15 am #343232

XSI wrote:From what I heard out of unconfirmed sources:
1. A lady went on stage and shouted everyone there was going to die about 45 minutes before the attack. She was thrown out by security(?)
2. The guy who did it apparently had social media full of anti-trump stuff. Not that that's uncommon these days

Signs point to a deranged idiot and a girlfriend who may have encouraged it or helped plan. Either way, shit's fucked. People should not do this sort of thing because that's just being awful
Other theories currently floated at said unconfirmed sources include it being a government thing for more gun control laws. Because of course the bodies were still warm when the first cries for harsher gun laws were heard

Meh, all these attacks and shootings are pretty shit

I can tell you number 1 is false. Don't know about number 2.

Number one was someone trying to get attention after all this. Kinda sick.

From all the information released we don't know what he was about.

Super Aggro Crag wrote:I guarantee the antitrump stuff will never be brought up by mainstram media

Unconfirmed rumors that he was a multimillionaire with gambling debts too

He wasn't a millionare, at least I don't think so. He was playing 100 bucks a hand poker however. He lives in a retirement community so that is pretty normal. I guess he could be a millionaire? Its hard to stay a millionaire in Las Vegas.

lntigracy · Post by **lntigracy** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:42 am #343237

We need harsher gun laws even though his guns were already illegal to begin with.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:51 am #343239

XSI wrote:From what I heard out of unconfirmed sources:
1. A lady went on stage and shouted everyone there was going to die about 45 minutes before the attack. She was thrown out by security(?)
2. The guy who did it apparently had social media full of anti-trump stuff. Not that that's uncommon these days

Signs point to a deranged idiot and a girlfriend who may have encouraged it or helped plan. Either way, shit's fucked. People should not do this sort of thing because that's just being awful
Other theories currently floated at said unconfirmed sources include it being a government thing for more gun control laws. Because of course the bodies were still warm when the first cries for harsher gun laws were heard

Meh, all these attacks and shootings are pretty shit

>label all mainstream media, celebrities and entertainment as "anti-trump"
>most people on social media obviously like/follow/tag media, celebrities and entertainment stuff
>anyone who does anything is automatically "full of anti-trump stuff"

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:01 am #343240

That's not really hard if most mainstream media is opposed to Trump, really

It doesn't say a thing

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:18 am #343241

Attack on a republican congressman -> you can easily assume political motivations. If the guy has leftist stuff on social media, well that's a bingo.

But how is this attack even related to Trump, besides country music? Does country music automatically mean republican? Are politics really that polarized in the US? If you create a new profile on any social media, you will be given a starting pack of stuff to follow/like, and all this stuff falls into the entertainment/media category. Following a media personality that once tweeted something critical of Trump doesn't make you an extremist, especially if you're a 65 year old guy who probably even posts minion memes. And, again, it will be hard to filter out the crazies if anyone who likes mainstream stuff is labeled "anti-trump".

And I really don't get why gun nuts go crazy fearing gun control laws every time a massacre happens, those things are the best thing ever for the gun industry. AFAIK people immediately rush gun shops to stock up on ammo and weapons because "dey gunna take our guns" and profits skyrocket, and no gun control laws ever happen. You are either already living in a liberal state with strict gun laws, or you're in a red state and nothing will change.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:26 pm #343254

That's because historically, and in other nations, right after shootings is when gun control laws get passed

So they do have a point about that, someone will use it for their agenda

Super Aggro Crag · Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:34 pm

starmute wrote:
XSI wrote:From what I heard out of unconfirmed sources:
1. A lady went on stage and shouted everyone there was going to die about 45 minutes before the attack. She was thrown out by security(?)
2. The guy who did it apparently had social media full of anti-trump stuff. Not that that's uncommon these days

Signs point to a deranged idiot and a girlfriend who may have encouraged it or helped plan. Either way, shit's fucked. People should not do this sort of thing because that's just being awful
Other theories currently floated at said unconfirmed sources include it being a government thing for more gun control laws. Because of course the bodies were still warm when the first cries for harsher gun laws were heard

Meh, all these attacks and shootings are pretty shit
I can tell you number 1 is false. Don't know about number 2.

Number one was someone trying to get attention after all this. Kinda sick.

From all the information released we don't know what he was about.

Super Aggro Crag wrote:I guarantee the antitrump stuff will never be brought up by mainstram media

Unconfirmed rumors that he was a multimillionaire with gambling debts too
He wasn't a millionare, at least I don't think so. He was playing 100 bucks a hand poker however. He lives in a retirement community so that is pretty normal. I guess he could be a millionaire? Its hard to stay a millionaire in Las Vegas.

He owned multiple houses, was a "retired" accountant, and had a shitload of very expensive guns. Even if he did not have liquid assets worth one million I'm pretty sure he had a total worth of atlesst 7 figure

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:35 pm #343329

lntigracy wrote:We need harsher gun laws even though his guns were already illegal to begin with.

Pretty sure most of them were converted. All of them were legal according to the seller. That being said it isn't that hard to convert a AR 15 into a fully auto weapon. It is however very illegal.

Easiest conversion would be a ak 47.

Super Aggro Crag wrote: He owned multiple houses, was a "retired" accountant, and had a shitload of very expensive guns. Even if he did not have liquid assets worth one million I'm pretty sure he had a total worth of atlesst 7 figure

You're probably right.

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:18 pm #343414

starmute wrote:
lntigracy wrote:We need harsher gun laws even though his guns were already illegal to begin with.
Pretty sure most of them were converted. All of them were legal according to the seller. That being said it isn't that hard to convert a AR 15 into a fully auto weapon. It is however very illegal.

Easiest conversion would be a ak 47.

You can easily convert an AK47 into a lot of things. Like a shovel or a stove.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:19 pm #343416

CosmicScientist wrote:Guten tag der Deutschen Einheit, DemonFiren!

honestly those ossis shoulda stayed put

calzilla1 · Post by **calzilla1** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:44 pm #343426

Of what I heard he was a butt blasted Hilldog supporting Democrat from a nice trust fund family.

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:43 pm #343490

cedarbridge wrote:
starmute wrote:
lntigracy wrote:We need harsher gun laws even though his guns were already illegal to begin with.
Pretty sure most of them were converted. All of them were legal according to the seller. That being said it isn't that hard to convert a AR 15 into a fully auto weapon. It is however very illegal.

Easiest conversion would be a ak 47.
You can easily convert an AK47 into a lot of things. Like a shovel or a stove.

True. But it is the easiest thing to convert into a full auto weapon. Its a piece of shit but it works. Honestly I don't have the ears to identify what weapon it was.

calzilla1 wrote:Of what I heard he was a butt blasted Hilldog supporting Democrat from a nice trust fund family.

Please post sources instead of "here's a rumor" and "I heard". Left is blaming this on the Right, Right is blaming this on the Left. Isis is taking credit and some people think it was over a bad gambling debt.

I don't know what to think.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:22 pm #343500

I've heard the same, but no sources on it either so that doesn't actually say anything

In related news

And some leaked photos of the shooter's room. Warning, graphic pictures of the guy dead included
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 5259452419
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 5077544960

>Someone posted these to 4chan's /pol/ to leak them
>That someone might be losing their job over it

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:43 pm #343506

I can hear /k/ screaming already about all of the dumb bullshit on those guns.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:12 pm #343514

XSI wrote:I've heard the same, but no sources on it either so that doesn't actually say anything

In related news

And some leaked photos of the shooter's room. Warning, graphic pictures of the guy dead included
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 5259452419
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 5077544960

>Someone posted these to 4chan's /pol/ to leak them
>That someone might be losing their job over it

Ayyy, its the command and conquer soundtrack guy.

Also I'm not surprised he snapped and went on a shooting spree, that carpet and wall paper would drive anyone fucking insane.

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:53 pm #343521

XSI wrote:I've heard the same

>Rumor mill going around
>State "hey guys knock it off with all the rumors"
>next few post
>"I've heard"

Also the best way to support the community is blood drives just fyi. Even if you are in SLC or Arizonia or NM. I'm sure money is nice but currently Vegas needs blood donors.

Takeguru · Post by **Takeguru** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:04 am #343544

I have never donated blood, at first just to be an edgy cunt and now because I work with machinery and would have to take a day off the day after I donated due to company policy

I'd sell my blood if that were an option though

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:57 am #343576

Probably going nowhere. Already heard that the Spanish courts don't count it as a valid legal thing

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:58 am #343578

Takeguru wrote:I have never donated blood, at first just to be an edgy cunt and now because I work with machinery and would have to take a day off the day after I donated due to company policy

I'd sell my blood if that were an option though

I've seen those plasma centers around. I wonder how much they pay.

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:59 am #343579

My research indicates no information about a strong political association on the part of the Vegas shooter. The brother of the shooter claimed that he had no strong political beliefs in an interview with the Washington Post, and the following sources report either no information about the shooter's political or repeat the statement from the shooter's brother about his lack of political beliefs: CNN, WaPo, NBC, Fox, NY times, LA times. I have found no reputable sources reporting any political affiliation.

However, NY times reports and NBC corroborates that during the days leading up to the shooting, the shooter made extremely large gambling transactions, with cash-in and cash-outs in excess of $10,000. It is presently not available if he was winning or losing.

Area police report no evidence of a connection with international terrorism (NY times, WaPo, CNN).

There was however a google bomb by 4chan with the deliberate intent to introduce the false information that the shooter had definitive leftist associations. This is where that piece of information comes from. It has not been reported by any reputable source so far as my considerable searching indicates.

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:04 am #343581

Drynwyn wrote:My research indicates no information about a strong political association on the part of the Vegas shooter. The brother of the shooter claimed that he had no strong political beliefs in an interview with the Washington Post, and the following sources report either no information about the shooter's political or repeat the statement from the shooter's brother about his lack of political beliefs: CNN, WaPo, NBC, Fox, NY times, LA times. I have found no reputable sources reporting any political affiliation.

However, NY times reports and NBC corroborates that during the days leading up to the shooting, the shooter made extremely large gambling transactions, with cash-in and cash-outs in excess of $10,000. It is presently not available if he was winning or losing.

Area police report no evidence of a connection with international terrorism (NY times, WaPo, CNN).

There was however a google bomb by 4chan with the deliberate intent to introduce the false information that the shooter had definitive leftist associations. This is where that piece of information comes from. It has not been reported by any reputable source so far as my considerable searching indicates.

The dastardly hacker 4 Chan strikes again.

Rustledjimm · Post by **Rustledjimm** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:07 am #343655

starmute wrote:The shooting. Everyone is so down, everyone is just... really sad here. I'm too easily affected by other people's emotions and I can't deal with all these people sobbing and being upset. I was expecting a good work week, followed by some jousting, followed by a trip to Mandalay bay aquarium (its a really nice shark aquarium). I mean... I look forward to this every year (not just getting kudos but the events too). Now I just feel drained and the day isn't even started. I'm probably just going to get some food and go to sleep. I'm just kinda processing this.

You would think that after having so many shootings you guys would be used to it by now. I mean the U.K has been bombed for decades and nobody really cares when a bombing happens anymore. An addition to this is that they do this to emotionally affect you on purpose, if you let yourself be affected well you're kinda just playing right into their hands.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:53 am #343665

Drynwyn wrote: There was however a google bomb by 4chan with the deliberate intent to introduce the false information that the shooter had definitive leftist associations.

This is perfectly plausible, but I'm still gonna need a source.