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starmute · Post by **starmute** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:22 am #338175

Bottom post of the previous page:

Malkevin wrote:[
Wait a minute, don't play coy and pretend you didn't read the first email on the second game, where the protag gets a shipping confirmation for a robot body for his ai waifu, complete with optional extras of lady parts.

Actually I kinda played it as we were "just friends" in the first one so it carried over to the second one. I've never really gotten into the romance arcs. Also the protag can be a girl too : ).

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:14 am #338255

>unironically using smileys

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:21 pm #338363

heres a lil interesting thing

https://iai.tv/video/in-search-of-the-self?access=ALL

Super Aggro Crag · Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:08 pm

I like that movie.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:51 pm #338677

Not new, in ye old times they used to put animals on trials

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:53 pm #338681

I want more of this.

Look at how goofy the trial looks.

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:58 pm #338685

starmute wrote: And while the judge thought it was "unconstitutional" he eventually plead out due to him believing that he would be convicted.

Why is that in quotation marks?

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:02 pm #338687

cedarbridge wrote:
starmute wrote: And while the judge thought it was "unconstitutional" he eventually plead out due to him believing that he would be convicted.
Why is that in quotation marks?

Reading the arguments I don't believe it is. If it was appealed to a higher court they wouldn't reach the same conclusion; thus the reason why he pleaded out.

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:36 am #338914

CosmicScientist wrote:
starmute wrote:I want more of this.

https://assets.wired.com/photos/w_582/w ... /trial.jpg

Look at how goofy the trial looks.
Judge - "I just can't believe that we're in the same room as that... that sow."
Friar - "I know my Captain, I just can't draw my eyes away from them."
Friar (foreground) - "That was the devil, they defecated over all of my ambrosia deus trays, oh, oh sweet baby jesus, the room draws dark."
Clown (behind friar) - if I just keep smiling, they might step back onto my peel
Sec (either) - "Would ya believe I caught this little piggy running all the way home? Home being cargo and all the way being disposals in the Cap's office."

The clown and the lawyer set up the trial. Everyone else is just along for the ride.

A3STH3T1CS · Post by **A3STH3T1CS** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:14 am #338920

CNN wrote:"The animated GIF image Trump retweeted spliced together footage of Trump taking a swing on a golf course with footage of Clinton tripping and falling as she boarded a plane in 2011 as secretary of state. The footage is edited to make it appear as though Clinton is hit in the back with a golf ball before her fall."

"The White House did not respond to a request for comment Sunday about the President's tweet and whether Kelly was aware of it."

""The President of the United States just retweeted a video vignette that imagines him assaulting his political rival. The man is unfit,"

CNN in a nutshell these days

Super Aggro Crag · Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:47 am

Obama posted videos of his fursona

Super Aggro Crag · Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:45 pm

Because islams use the no true Scotsman fallacy a lot

A3STH3T1CS · Post by **A3STH3T1CS** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:43 pm #339009

If these sandniggers are going to continue to revert back into the 19th and 18th centuries, we ought to just fucking destroy them so we can have more land for the 4th industrial revolution.

We're never going to progress far enough to watch bio-genetic engineering take a mainstream hold as long as have these savages roam the planet.

K-64 · Post by **K-64** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:10 pm #339039

CosmicScientist wrote: What have you been doing, world? Scotland has nothing to do with that mess of religions.

You say that, but we do have a reputation for punching burning muslims and all that.

Super Aggro Crag · Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:16 pm

Yikes...

A3STH3T1CS · Post by **A3STH3T1CS** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:50 pm #339044

K-64 wrote:
CosmicScientist wrote: What have you been doing, world? Scotland has nothing to do with that mess of religions.
You say that, but we do have a reputation for punching burning muslims and all that.

Hey I remember those videos.
Then Finland got the bright idea from them to start a nationalist sector to drive out the refugees flooding the streets, the music they overlapped made it feel like some Benny Hill joke.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:09 pm #339071

I can understand that logic

If they want to live in medieval times, we should treat them as such and put the peasants to work in the fields under threat of a flogging

InsaneHyena · Post by **InsaneHyena** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:49 pm #339289

Remie Richards wrote:So... there's a bunch of nutjobs in Charlottesville.

bandit wrote:you're posting in the wrong place, half the people in this thread were probably there

Still cracks me up. What even came out of that Challenger thing anyway?

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:38 pm #339384

Still under investigation

Charges unlikely

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:11 pm #339576

XSI wrote:Still under investigation

Charges unlikely

..... He's already been charged on August 15. He was denied bond August 25. Still in jail awaiting trial.

Where are you getting your news? Actually curious. I just want to know.

ShadowDimentio · Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:05 pm

What he's talking about is how the Prosecution is at a lose-lose situation and the trial is about to pull a Zimmerman

Either the prosecution can try and push a murder charge and it'll likely get rejected for lack of evidence, or they can settle with a manslaughter charge and get ridiculed for failing to jail the evil nazi scum for forever

ShadowDimentio · Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:12 pm

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XSI · Post by **XSI** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:39 pm #339738

starmute wrote:
XSI wrote:Still under investigation

Charges unlikely
..... He's already been charged on August 15. He was denied bond August 25. Still in jail awaiting trial.

Where are you getting your news? Actually curious. I just want to know.

My bad. I meant him being convicted of crimes/called guilty is unlikely. Charges are a thing they throw at everyone or they can't hold them or trial them
So yeah, he got charged, that was the wrong word to use on my end

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:24 pm #339765

ShadowDimentio wrote:What he's talking about is how the Prosecution is at a lose-lose situation and the trial is about to pull a Zimmerman

Either the prosecution can try and push a murder charge and it'll likely get rejected for lack of evidence, or they can settle with a manslaughter charge and get ridiculed for failing to jail the evil nazi scum for forever

... how is there a lack of evidence?

Screemonster · Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:51 pm

they'll try and weasel the "i felt threatened which is why I ploughed my vehicle directly into the centre of mass of them instead of trying to evade them" or some bullshit that technically leaves room for reasonable doubt

in other news some dipshit decided to go out in seattle with a swastika armband and pick fights and harass people on public transport and tell everyone he had a gun and he got knocked the fuck out

the usual handwringing wannabe-reasonable middle-ground "-b-b-but free speech is it right to throw the first punch a bluhbluhbluh" crowd are naturally hammering out a million thinkpieces as we speak

None of them are asking "if some dipshit was out on the streets harassing people on public transport and yelling about how he had a gun and threatening people and he got knocked the fuck out for his trouble, would anyone give a shit?"
but oh no put a fucking swastika on his arm and suddenly it's a muh free speech issue about whether we can justify violence against him

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:56 pm #339787

Thats retarded
Going out with a swastika armband is a pretty good sign that you're not up to anything good and you shouldn't be surprised if you get punched. Kinda like carrying an antifa flag or a KKK outfit, instantly tells everyone around you that you have no interest in anything except pissing people off or fighting

As for the car guy
Yeah, good chance he'll get off. Because evidence does show his car was hit by a bat before he hit anyone. And the cause of death was technically not directly related to being hit by a car so they can leverage that too

lntigracy · Post by **lntigracy** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:57 pm #339788

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:43 am #339808

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cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:57 am #339814

XSI wrote:Thats retarded
Going out with a swastika armband is a pretty good sign that you're not up to anything good and you shouldn't be surprised if you get punched. Kinda like carrying an antifa flag or a KKK outfit, instantly tells everyone around you that you have no interest in anything except pissing people off or fighting

As for the car guy
Yeah, good chance he'll get off. Because evidence does show his car was hit by a bat before he hit anyone. And the cause of death was technically not directly related to being hit by a car so they can leverage that too

Words are not violence. Thoughts and beliefs are not violence. Justifying violence against somebody else for what they think, feel, or say is lunacy. Allowances can be made for speech that is intended to lead to immediate unlawful action or harm, but anything short of that is unacceptable. Punching a person for wearing an armband is justified the same way as punching somebody for having the wrong haircut, liking the wrong sports club, or arriving from the wrong country in peacetime. I can, if I were so motivated, walk around all week wearing full Klan regalia without intention to start a fight with anyone. I can do this same thing in full Nazi dress or decked out in full Black Bloc uniform. None of this is an invitation to violence because clothing is not violence. Words are not violence. Initiating violence against somebody else is not justified unless you are under imminent threat of violence from that person against yourself or another. Because words are not violence, saying something you disagree with, even something you consider beyond the pale, is not grounds for violence against the speaker and no self-defense mental gymnastics will suffice.

Screemonster · Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:29 am

did you miss the part where he was walking around getting up in people's faces and screaming at them and threatening them and telling them he had a gun

whether he had a swastika on his arm or not is irrelevant because he's doing shit that would provoke a reponse from literally anyone, if you really want to get technical it's legally defined as fighting words, which are treated differently in each state but pretty much recognised as "no shit if you get up and scream obscenities in someone's face they're going to be inclined to fucking deck you to get you out of their face"

but noooooooo, he had a swastika on so that makes it political and it's free speech and now people have to get on their high horse to defend him and tut at people who react poorly to having obscenities screamed in their faces by a total stranger

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:34 am #339827

Screemonster wrote:if you really want to get technical it's legally defined as fighting words, which are treated differently in each state

I swear to God if you use the words "fire in a crowded theater" I'm banning you from the server forever and I'll get the freg and the emu to let me.

No. Restrictions on 1st Amendment speech are not controlled "differently in each state" unless you consider different federal court districts to be different "states" and even then the difference is minimally important.

https://www.thefire.org/misconceptions- ... exception/

tl:dr The "fighting words" exception is more or less dead in American jurisprudence. The only place you'll find it still with any breath at all in it is if a guy literally gets up in another person's face and says "I'm going to hit you." or direct analogue. So yes, if I misunderstood the original point and we're discussing a guy literally threatening violence against somebody and getting in their face to do so, you would likely not get protection for that speech. If its just about anything else, there's no carve-out. There is no "nazi exception" to the 1st Amendment.

Screemonster · Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:42 am

the fire in a crowded theater thing was the supreme court arguing in favour of censoring a journalist who criticised the draft, which is a totally different situation.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:42 am #339829

I'm not saying it's a good thing. Or a moral thing. Or even a normal thing to punch people who are clearly just looking for trouble. Ideally it wouldn't happen and people would just avoid causing shit, or maybe a policeman would come over and tell him to stop being a douche to random people or they take him along for disturbing the peace. And ideally they'd go "You know, I'm being a dick here. I should not do that"

But they went looking for trouble and they found it. Good job them. That's exactly what they were after and that's what they got.
I wouldn't have punched them most likely, but there's a whole lot of people with less patience than me out there. And it is very understandable if someone with little patience decides he's had enough of this random guy coming up to him and shouting at him in public and punches the guy
Not the right thing to do, and it's not exactly moral to apply violence to solve your problems
But it's going to happen because some people just are not in the mood for dealing with that shit and that's the easiest way to make the problem go away

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:53 am #339830

XSI wrote:I'm not saying it's a good thing. Or a moral thing. Or even a normal thing to punch people who are clearly just looking for trouble. Ideally it wouldn't happen and people would just avoid causing shit, or maybe a policeman would come over and tell him to stop being a douche to random people or they take him along for disturbing the peace. And ideally they'd go "You know, I'm being a dick here. I should not do that"

But they went looking for trouble and they found it. Good job them. That's exactly what they were after and that's what they got.
I wouldn't have punched them most likely, but there's a whole lot of people with less patience than me out there. And it is very understandable if someone with little patience decides he's had enough of this random guy coming up to him and shouting at him in public and punches the guy
Not the right thing to do, and it's not exactly moral to apply violence to solve your problems
But it's going to happen because some people just are not in the mood for dealing with that shit and that's the easiest way to make the problem go away

And this is what I missed when I read the post the first time. I understood the complaint to be that he was "clearly looking for trouble" because of his dress. Where the guy was literally just harassing people on a bus and acting like a fool and literally menacing the passengers with a supposedly concealed weapon, he was probably not within 1st Amendment protections.

lntigracy · Post by **lntigracy** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:01 am #339836

reading comprehension is hard

Screemonster · Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:54 am

yeah. "Guy picks fight, gets more fight than he bargained for" would be a complete non-story if he wasn't wearing a nazi armband but because he was wearing one all the hypothetical free speech arguments are coming out when what he was wearing was completely incidental to what he was doing (and the results thereof)

it's true that there's no nazi exception to the 1st amendment but by the same token there's no nazi exception to "start shit, get hit"

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:57 pm #340022

So this is a thing, apparently
https://gizmodo.com/the-eu-suppressed-a ... 1818629537

The European Commission paid €360,000 (about $428,000) for a study on how piracy impacts the sales of copyrighted music, books, video games, and movies. But the EU never shared the report—possibly because it determined that there is no evidence that piracy is a major problem.

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:15 pm #340029

XSI wrote: €360,000 (about $428,000)

Man, the Euro sure has gone to shit lately huh?

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:49 pm #340059

Just as intended, the entire economy is fucked by design because that slight amount of fucked benefits some companies who happen to be friends with politicians/central bankers

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:30 am #340128

euro vs dollar has always been fucked.

tho tbh just because it translate to a lower price than dollars doesn't mean shit lol

1000 korean won translate to less than 1 american dollar but you dont see people going "SOUTH KOREA IS LITERALLY GOING TO CRASH AND BURN"

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:58 am #340132

also lower currency helps exports.

europe exports alot of shit

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:09 am #340138

no lol

euro in general exports a shit ton of stuff.

like sure, we're not america or china but we're far closer to them than any other country or union

people want our cheese and wine and other useless shit

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:08 am #340150

Pretty much that
Keep the currency just low enough that the exporting businesses have a good time

Screemonster · Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:24 am

Doesn't china deliberately fuck around and keep their currency suppressed so they can keep their exports attractive? (never mind what other consequences this has on their markets)

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:30 am #340152

ShadowDimentio · Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:10 am

China's success is pretty much entirely built on the backs of slave labor and incredibly poor standards in the name of quick money.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:55 am #340175

that sounds awfully familiar

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:19 pm #340187

CosmicScientist wrote:I'll have you know ASEAN might... be an exporter someday.

On a tangential topic, do you prefer Portuguese, Spanish, French or Italian wine?

South African wine is awful, it tastes like they brew it using sea water its that salty.

Australian reds are what I usually drink, Spanish and Italian are the best if we're talking European.

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:53 pm #340211

CosmicScientist wrote:I'll have you know ASEAN might... be an exporter someday.

On a tangential topic, do you prefer Portuguese, Spanish, French or Italian wine?

i prefer reds from the douro region but that's because its got nostalgia because i used to live there and my grandparents used to make it.

chilean, cali, australian, french, spanish and italian wines are also very very good but portuguese wine wins because of my bias.

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:56 pm #340213

ShadowDimentio wrote:China's success is pretty much entirely built on the backs of slave labor and incredibly poor standards in the name of quick money.

"quick money"

oil money is quick money, building an industrial base and out competing everyone is having a long term monopoly, and for the chinese government there is no push or no need to actually force workers to have good working standards. as long as they're not getting killed right and centre they don't give two fucks and don't need to.

don't let your western bias put down the chinese economy because it's fuelled by "slave labour". the quality is poor for sure, but they're automatising quickly and it's getting better and better.

ShadowDimentio · Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:16 pm

Yeah man it's my filthy western bias yelling in my ear that people shouldn't be worked like slaves and then discarded and replaced when inevitably something goes wrong