[IcePacks] Uncle Bourbon - BSA abuse

[Uncle Bourbon]

Byond account and character name: Unclebourbon - Cazz Miller
Admin: IcePacks
Time and server: Bagil, around 3:30 pm CDT, August 28th
Detailed summary: The round has been going on for a while, wiz round, summon magic and guns meme. Eventually the mime joins and gets brought into sec for whatever reason, suddenly the mime starts talking and spamming WGW over comms, so we kill the mime and I stuff him in the secs morgue tray.

https://atlantaned.space/newSS13tools/r ... &logs=true - round log

2122 [20:25:23] 119,170,2 SAY: Tranny Mime/Hedrox89: One day while Andy was masturbating, Woody got wood.
Mime spamming entire paragraphs into comms.

2178 [20:25:39] ATTACK: Francis Gallyus(francinum) fired at Tranny Mime(hedrox89) with The bullet Security Office (NEWHP: -102)
Few seconds later 3 sec officers including me gang up on the mime and kills him.

2360 [20:27:02] 95,174,2 GAME: Explosion with size (1, 2, 3, 0) in area Brig
2361 [20:27:02] ADMIN: IcePacks/(Bryce Pax) created an admin explosion at Brig.

Without even checking if the mime is even alive or in a safe location to even do explosions that destroy the hull and cause breaches.

2450 [20:27:44] 105,167,2 SAY: Cazz Miller/Uncle Bourbon: YOU FUCKING IDIOTS CENTCOMM
I naturally get upset and call out Centcomm for causing a huge breach wiping out sec med and the hallway adjacent to it

2473 [20:27:54] ADMIN: IcePacks/(Bryce Pax) punished Uncle Bourbon/(Cazz Miller) with Bluespace Artillery Device.
I get BSA'd putting me literally at 1HP, which right next to a breach created by IcePacks, puts me into crit. Which just so happens to be during when the new soft crit thing cripples you for the rest of the round for some reason.

Later he did some standard admeme stuff cause broken code and MC machine broke which i'm fine with, i'm not fine with the BSA meme that causes hull breaches without checking the person doing it and the area around them, then BSA'ing anyone who called them out.

[Dax Dupont]

2360 [20:27:02] 95,174,2 GAME: Explosion with size (1, 2, 3, 0) in area Brig
2361 [20:27:02] ADMIN: IcePacks/(Bryce Pax) created an admin explosion at Brig.

Without even checking if the mime is even alive or in a safe location to even do explosions that destroy the hull and cause breaches.

Unless admins want to contradict, this means he aghosted to that position and dropped a manual bomb with "drop bomb" verb.
So he must have known the location and state of the mime.

That combined with punishing someone for being upset with their workplace being partially blown up..

Huh, it's almost like "minor IC crime" but with an admin twist!

N.B.: There's a prior incident involving the smite button at https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 53&t=11841 .

[Armhulen]

Yeah bro BSAs are like 1,0,0,0. That's a small admin explosion.

[Uncle Bourbon]

So he knew the state which the mime was in and the location and he still dropped a bomb. Amazing.

[Vekter]

Yeah, BSA is always a 1/0/0, designed to just hit you for like 30 brute or something. Whatever he created was an actual custom bomb.

[cedarbridge]

Yeah, BSA is always a 1/0/0, designed to just hit you for like 30 brute or something. Whatever he created was an actual custom bomb.

Unless its changed, a BSA will hit your exact tile and reduce you to 1hp with a stun and break the removable floor tile (if any) on the floor section you're on. A second BSA will gib the victim.

[Not-Dorsidarf]

Yeah, BSA is always a 1/0/0, designed to just hit you for like 30 brute or something. Whatever he created was an actual custom bomb.

Unless its changed, a BSA will hit your exact tile and reduce you to 1hp with a stun and break the removable floor tile (if any) on the floor section you're on. A second BSA will gib the victim.

It has not changed. BSA takes you to 1hp no matter your health, and gibs you the second time

[imblyings]

Let's wait for icepacks to post

As an aside just kick or delete hedrox when he does this. Don't actually give him attention

[oranges]

Let's wait for icepacks to post

As an aside just kick or delete hedrox when he does this. Don't actually give him attention

if you swung the hammer who would miss them?

[bandit]

From an IC perspective, if you yell "YOU FUCKING IDIOTS CENTCOM" when Centcom is BSAing people, this is kind of the logical result

[kevinz000]

From an IC perspective, if you yell "YOU FUCKING IDIOTS CENTCOM" when Centcom is BSAing people, this is kind of the logical result

Yeah but it breached security and the guy was spamming WGW, I wouldn't blame someone for screaming that i'm an idiot if I bombed them for killing a wgw spammer


ofcourse i'm assuming all facts in the OP are correct as i'm a lazy cat and don't check logs for things taht i'm not involved in

[Cobby]

> admin opens area to space which hurts bystander
> bystander [rightfully] complains
> haha now I have valids on you too

??? Surely this is not how it went down.

[Jacough]

From an IC perspective, if you yell "YOU FUCKING IDIOTS CENTCOM" when Centcom is BSAing people, this is kind the logical result

Important thing is that Icepacks didn't just BSA Hedrox. He hit him with an admin explosive that popped a hole in the station. If you're going to fuck with an obnoxious shitter I think it's safe to say that your fuckery shouldn't affect other players. Gibbing them, deleting their mob, maybe rendering them blind, deaf, and mute would be fine. Blowing holes in important parts of the station isn't.

[onleavedontatme]

From an IC perspective, if you yell "YOU FUCKING IDIOTS CENTCOM" when Centcom is BSAing people, this is kind of the logical result

Yeah but it breached security and the guy was spamming WGW, I wouldn't blame someone for screaming that i'm an idiot if I bombed them for killing a wgw spammer


ofcourse i'm assuming all facts in the OP are correct as i'm a lazy cat and don't check logs for things taht i'm not involved in

From an IC perspective, if you yell "YOU FUCKING IDIOTS CENTCOM" when Centcom is BSAing people, this is kind the logical result

Important thing is that Icepacks didn't just BSA Hedrox. He hit him with an admin explosive that popped a hole in the station. If you're going to fuck with an obnoxious shitter I think it's safe to say that your fuckery shouldn't affect other players. Gibbing them, deleting their mob, maybe rendering them blind, deaf, and mute would be fine. Blowing holes in important parts of the station isn't.

Come on guys "it was logical to kill someone for talking back after nearly killing them unprovoked" is lazy bait don't fall for it

[IcePacks]

I logged in, heard something about someone reading WGW, teleported to the culprit, prone in security, dropped small bomb. That's a devastation range of one, I believe, heavy impact range of like, two? It didn't destroy any part of brig except for the medbay. I didn't know nor really care that the culprit was dead. I BSA'd Cazz Miller for yelling "fuck you centcomm", which did put him in Kor's friendlycrit, without following him, unaware that he had been caught in the explosion, because it really didn't look like anyone did. It was maybe the length of the brig's medbay.

[bandit]

for future reference though if someone is WGW spamming I usually just load them on mute toxin, denies them fun while not affecting the round

Come on guys "it was logical to kill someone for talking back after nearly killing them unprovoked" is lazy bait don't fall for it

I see we've evolved from coming into every thread where I post to unnecessarily shit on me to coming into every thread where I post to call my posts bait

[Dax Dupont]

for future reference though if someone is WGW spamming I usually just load them on mute toxin, denies them fun while not affecting the round

Removing tongues or making them forget all languages seems more fun.

[imblyings]

never shitpost more than I do in a thread about serious business. Don't actually BSA someone for just shouting 'fuck you centcom'. Someone going into crit because of a previous admin bomb and the BSA is very unfortunate. A dayban for a illegitimate kill seems about right unless another headmin wishes to say something. I also can't log in atm due to rl issues so someone else will have to apply it

also don't muck around with hedrox next time just ban him.