rule precedence. -for sillyclowns

[christ110]

so, in a totally unrelated note to another thread that recently plagued these forums for all of 2 hours...
the sillicon policy states to allow authorize personell into the upload. and to allow others with escort, if requested.
why dont we simplify this to something like
"future violations of laws take priority over current violations of lower ranking laws"
or, if the admin team so desires;
"future violations of laws do not take priority over current violations of lower ranking laws."

[lumipharon]

You keep talking about this 'future violations of laws' bollocks, as though this is different from something immediate.

If someone tells me to bolt someone into a room and vent all atmosphere, it is not immediately harmful, but that doesn't mean it's not a law 1 violation.
This is extremely straight forwards and pure common sense, otherwise I could shock all doors, flood plasma and release the singulo, all because 'it's not causing harm right this second :^)'

[Nilons]

You keep talking about this 'future violations of laws' bollocks, as though this is different from something immediate.

If someone tells me to bolt someone into a room and vent all atmosphere, it is not immediately harmful, but that doesn't mean it's not a law 1 violation.
This is extremely straight forwards and pure common sense, otherwise I could shock all doors, flood plasma and release the singulo, all because 'it's not causing harm right this second :^)'

[D&B]

The more you post the more I hope you get silicon banned.

[Nilons]

The more you post the more I hope you get silicon banned.

If ban requests were still open you could prolly just link these threads and get results.

[Anonmare]

Creating situations where a Human could come into harm is stlll violating Law 1.

Potential harm is still a Law 1 risk, without it, AIs wouldn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to not releasing everyone in the perma brig (Silicon policy states that releasing a perma brig prisoner without security approval is a potential Law 1 violation).

[christ110]

Creating situations where a Human could come into harm is stlll violating Law 1.

Potential harm is still a Law 1 risk, without it, AIs wouldn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to not releasing everyone in the perma brig (Silicon policy states that releasing a perma brig prisoner without security approval is a potential Law 1 violation).

So I can extrapolate that to mean that potential violations of a law, outweigh current violations of a lower ranking law. And of course, the ai upload is an odd situation.
Repukan, would you rather I not come to the forums and just play the game with a poor interpretation of the rules?

[D&B]

Yes because then I wouldn't have to read stupid fucking suggestions and you would be safely tucked away from a couple roles that require reading comprehension and common sense skills.

[lumipharon]

Creating situations where a Human could come into harm is stlll violating Law 1.

Potential harm is still a Law 1 risk, without it, AIs wouldn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to not releasing everyone in the perma brig (Silicon policy states that releasing a perma brig prisoner without security approval is a potential Law 1 violation).

So I can extrapolate that to mean that potential violations of a law, outweigh current violations of a lower ranking law. And of course, the ai upload is an odd situation.
Repukan, would you rather I not come to the forums and just play the game with a poor interpretation of the rules?

There is a difference between 'potential' harm (ie: any random could suddenly start stabbing nerds 4noraisin), and 'probable' harm (ie: the captain covered in fresh greyshirt blood trying to get into the AI upload).
Guess which one your situation falls into.

[christ110]

Creating situations where a Human could come into harm is stlll violating Law 1.

Potential harm is still a Law 1 risk, without it, AIs wouldn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to not releasing everyone in the perma brig (Silicon policy states that releasing a perma brig prisoner without security approval is a potential Law 1 violation).

So I can extrapolate that to mean that potential violations of a law, outweigh current violations of a lower ranking law. And of course, the ai upload is an odd situation.
Repukan, would you rather I not come to the forums and just play the game with a poor interpretation of the rules?

There is a difference between 'potential' harm (ie: any random could suddenly start stabbing nerds 4noraisin), and 'probable' harm (ie: the captain covered in fresh greyshirt blood trying to get into the AI upload).
Guess which one your situation falls into.

the reason i created a seperate thread, is because i wanted to clear this up, this is something that was bothering me for a while now. its just that the events in the other thread caused me to bring this issue up.
but, thank you for your clarification.
potential stuff gets ignored, probable takes precedence over lower ranking laws.

[PKPenguin321]

Prioritizing "potential future law violations" is a fucking terrible idea, since it makes silicons able to handwave basically any law two request with "yeah but if i let you in there you might potentially attack somebody inside, law 1 violation!!!"

Unless you'd like to clarify, this thread can be safely wrapped up.