I'm really not a fan. Beyond the fact that it serves no real game purpose other then making people's hitbox larger, it breaks the aesthetic of the game to have icons stretched to 10 times their usual size, and causes issues.
Among other things, there are dangerous possibilities like hiding a bomb underneath your huge sprite.
Suggestions for improvement:
Limit upsizing to somewhere more functional, 2 or 3 sizes
Make upsized people occupy more space
i.e. Upsized people won't fit into single width hallways or doorways, and can't hide dense stuff under their sprite due to knocking it out of the way
Make continue growth hormone use cause damage of some sort (toxin? cellular?)
Just remove it entirely
Frequently playing as Aria Bollet on Bagil & Scary Terry
Arianya wrote:AKA: The stuff that makes people 18 tiles tall
I'm really not a fan. Beyond the fact that it serves no real game purpose other then making people's hitbox larger, it breaks the aesthetic of the game to have icons stretched to 10 times their usual size, and causes issues.
Among other things, there are dangerous possibilities like hiding a bomb underneath your huge sprite.
Suggestions for improvement:
Limit upsizing to somewhere more functional, 2 or 3 sizes
Make upsized people occupy more space
i.e. Upsized people won't fit into single width hallways or doorways, and can't hide dense stuff under their sprite due to knocking it out of the way
Make continue growth hormone use cause damage of some sort (toxin? cellular?)
Just remove it entirely
Fucking colossi are 3 tiles tall and only occupy a single tile. Same with bubblegum
I don't see what this adds except for ugly stretched sprites.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm
The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
Digdugxx wrote:This is the second feature discussion I've caused :]
Would you care to voice your opinion on the feature/the suggested improvements? You do have first dibs on changes to the feature, as its yours.
No it's not mine, I just milked the crap out of it and made people realize how ridiculous it is. It's fun but it needs to be removed / nerfed because no one should be able to make the entire station giants that easily.
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Qbopper wrote:One of the few posts on the forums to make me genuinely laugh out loud, well done
The Legend of Scrubs, MD
You are a traitor!
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Cuboos wrote:
> That god damn engineer who let the singularity loose was a traitor and the only reasonable person on that whole entire station.
Is this thread about growth serum? If so, I first PRed it to just be a sort of gag chem like space drugs (not really in reference to anything despite what oranges said), then it got moved to a botany mushroom for thematic purposes, then my PR died so somebody else took it and added a pulse effect, and then just a little while ago somebody else made it so that you can grow EXTRA SUPER HUGE the more serum you have in you. I'm guessing by this thread that the last PR to change it was too extreme, and if so, it can be easily adjusted.
Digdugxx wrote:Maybe make the sprites vectors so they scale and look normal? I don't know if you can do that, I'm no expert
That is not something in our control.
Sprites for DM are .dmi files (just pngs with zTxt info), so they're raster images only (no vectors)
they're blurry here, because the scaling algorithm used is for "best quality", which typically ruins pixel art.
The one we'd want, which we have requested before, is Nearest Neighbour, which can scale pixel art without blurring it.
I agree with what others have said here, that it's lost its luster and could probably do with being removed. It was hysterical the first time I saw it, now it's just a bored geneticist using it on themselves or the clown every other round. It's a funny thing that's been pretty thoroughly driven into the dust.
If it were to stay in, I'd say give it a timer so they at least return to normal size eventually.
a) its a botanist plant chemical not geneticist and b) it already does decrease your size after the chemical in your body is used up.. it's just that if you consume lots of it (there's no OD) then you'll basically be like a giant forever
Spoiler:
Qbopper wrote:One of the few posts on the forums to make me genuinely laugh out loud, well done
Digdugxx wrote:a) its a botanist plant chemical not geneticist and b) it already does decrease your size after the chemical in your body is used up.. it's just that if you consume lots of it (there's no OD) then you'll basically be like a giant forever
Ah, I haven't played in a few months, I didn't know that. Either way, it's just a bored botanist doing it instead of a bored geneticist. Maybe make the reagent metabolize faster? Or lower the OD threshold, that seems like the most reasonable fix.
oranges wrote:iirc it was added as a homage to a bug that people could exploit to blow themselves up into giants.
No... growth hormone was put in because it was a mario reference
Read my post nerd I put it in since I liked the resize mechanic and wanted a not-buggy way to access it as a player
Originally it was gonna be in its own mushroom though so yeah kind of a mario reference but that's not the reason I first made it
PKPenguin321 wrote:I lowered the growth values to cap out at 3.5 rather than 5
A reasonable change instead of sweeping nerfs/buffs or removing it outright? I thought I was on /tg/ station.
But seriously that makes it a lot more tolerable, thanks.
Hey don't give me that shit, I suggested limiting its growth value as well!
Will take a gander at this soon and see if its less intolerable.
Also, one possibility that you might not have considered PK, I believe reagents stop being catalyzed if someone dies, which would leave them at max size forever once dead. Not sure if theres a way to fix that without some snowflakey check for growth serum though.
Frequently playing as Aria Bollet on Bagil & Scary Terry
PKPenguin321 wrote:I lowered the growth values to cap out at 3.5 rather than 5
A reasonable change instead of sweeping nerfs/buffs or removing it outright? I thought I was on /tg/ station.
But seriously that makes it a lot more tolerable, thanks.
Hey don't give me that shit, I suggested limiting its growth value as well!
Will take a gander at this soon and see if its less intolerable.
Also, one possibility that you might not have considered PK, I believe reagents stop being catalyzed if someone dies, which would leave them at max size forever once dead. Not sure if theres a way to fix that without some snowflakey check for growth serum though.
[20:26:02]ADMIN: PM: [censored admin]->[censored]: Welp. It was just a prank bro isn't a very good excuse when it comes to unprovoked nonantag murder, but since this is your first time doing it and you seem to understand the problem instead of a bannu I'm just going to leave you with a warning. Please PLEASE don't do this again in the future, as funny as crackhead broken bottle memes can be. Alrighty? Do you have any input on this?
[20:26:39]ADMIN: PM: [censored]->[censored admin]: Alright, no problem. I have some input. Fuck my boy pussy.
[20:27:06]ADMIN: PM: [censored admin]->[censored]: Okay then. Have fun.
[20:31:29]ADMIN: PM: [censored admin]->[censored]: Excuse me?
J_Madison wrote:
that's a stupid fucking stat
you don't play, you've never played
lying little shit with your bullshit stat
fuck you
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