/tg/Station 13

TheWiznard · Post by **TheWiznard** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:18 am #189926

Bottom post of the previous page:

It's still fun playing with friends but playing the same limited number of maps and 2 gamemodes over and over again is starting to get to me; oh boy gold weapons and comp play whoop de fucking doo when it's on the same modes that have always been out. I mean all I'm asking for is some hints or teasers at new maps or gamemodes and I'll be fine but I see people who have that star next to their name and I'm just like how the fuck are they not starting to burn out on the same shit every time over and over repeated

edit: okay modes I'm not so worried about but I still think there could at least be way more maps then there are currently for a 40 dollar game

captain sawrge · Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:00 pm

i wish i didnt buyed this game...

Lumbermancer · Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:03 am

Drynwyn wrote:memes

Dude in my short time with this game I really enjoyed running around with the Chinese Maiden, holding left button and killing everyone with impunity.

captain sawrge · Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:36 am

Lumbermancer wrote:
Drynwyn wrote:memes
Dude in my short time with this game I really enjoyed running around with the Chinese Maiden, holding left button and killing everyone with impunity.

he has an undertale avatar, just ignore him

peoplearestrange · Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:52 pm

I'd agree on the more maps, it feels incredibly repetitive already. Though its hard to compare it to something. If you compare it to TF2, your forgetting it took a LOT of its maps from TFC, which had 10+ years of community and pro maps being made for it. Not to mention another 10 years after that where we slowly saw more maps.

I think it could benefit from allowing the community to map, but that would probably mean they'd have to actually unveil what engine they're using amongst other hidden things that blizzard likes to hide behind it's doors.

Oldman Robustin · Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:21 pm

I came back from closed beta after I saw new modes and maps (if you think its repetitive now, imagine when the only mode was Payload or Hanamura), but yea its getting kind of repetitive again. I'd love to see more maps soon but Blizzard is glacial about this kind of stuff.

Skorvold · Post by **Skorvold** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:14 pm #195124

nu hero is great. been playing her on the ptr branch

Super Aggro Crag · Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:22 pm

oh good a support sniper now when my teammates complain we have no supports one of the 3 widowmakers and hanzos can swap to her

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:39 pm #195134

but do headshots bonus heal?!?!

IcePacks · Post by **IcePacks** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:23 am #195160

Super Aggro Crag wrote:oh good a support sniper now when my teammates complain we have no supports one of the 3 widowmakers and hanzos can swap to her

RYUU GA WAGA TEKI WO NO I'M NOT I NEED POTG

yackemflam · Post by **yackemflam** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:26 am #196140

HORY SHIEET THEY FIX HITBOXES.
NO MORE HANZO ARROW BULLSHITTERY

Super Aggro Crag · Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:49 am

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:35 pm #197184

I always seem to be on the receiving end of funky hitboxes, I got killed by a Reinhart pin as a Mercy and the playback showed me literally glitching right into him even though the only thing even close to him was my wings.
Don't even get me started on Hanzo though, I got hit around the corner somehow by him once.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:56 pm #197192

Apparently they're fixing Hanzo's hitboxes

Or so my brother says, not a clue if they actually are

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:45 am #198526

Yeah, the hitboxes in general have been tightened. Bit of a pisser for Reaper and D.Va, the smaller boxes make their shotguns less damaging.

Davidchan · Post by **Davidchan** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:57 am #198527

Convient how blizzard fixes a problem thats been in since launch a week after the community makes a video demonstrating how borked they are.

I do look forward to not getting headshotted around corners by Hanzo's truck arrows anymore. Reaper doing less damage is fine by me, given that I often see him solo tanks, ambush heroes should never feel they can run in head on and succeed.

D.va doing less damage is kinda annoying, but if thats the price of balance I'm fine with it, they can tweak her to bring her back up to speed later if need be.

I am somewhat curious if Roadhog's hook will be nerfed in doing this, as I've see people getting hooked over walls, it's vertical reach was outright insane. And thats coming from a guy who likes to play roadhog.

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:11 am #198528

Reaper's still just as strong versus tanks- their hitboxes are already so huge he doesn't need the air-boxes to deal full damage.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:09 am #198852

So I got this today

Played with my brother
Already did better than him with some heroes
Two plays of the game in under an hour, one of roadhog ult pushing everyone off the cliff at that tower place and one Dva ult blowing up 3 people after I used the shield to absorb ALL of a pharah's ult

Seems like 'press Q for play of the game' was true

Davidchan · Post by **Davidchan** » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:15 am #198865

Certain heroes have ludicrously powerful Ults, others do not. Lucio, for example, is never gonna get PotG off his ult, while Hanzo and Reaper almost always will. PotG is calculated by recording who got the most points in a 5~ second period and replaying that footage. This is generally why healers get shat upon, because healing people is worth less points than damaging/killing people.

EndgamerAzari · Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:01 am

They're working on fixing the PotG algorithm so it's not just "carnage per second", but it's hard to teach a computer what looks cool versus what has numerical value.

I play Lucio probably the most, and his ult may not seem like much, but there have been times when dropping the Sound Barrier has saved my team from a wipe and helped push back a coordinated assault. Feels good man.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:53 pm #199044

I ended up playing Mei on a payload defence today

Got people so incredibly salty one of them told me to go fuck myself in chat
Gold medal objective time: just under 2 minutes

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:37 am #199095

I think you might have been in a match against me cause I remember my team getting really salty at a Mei.
Then again, that was basically all day.

Also Torbjorns putting their turrets/Bastions deploying sentry mode on the moving latforms in Volshaya Industries are the worst kind of people.

EndgamerAzari · Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:44 am

I tried to stick Symmetra's turrets to the bottom of those platforms but they get scraped off by the lip of the windows they move through ;_;

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:07 am #199105

You can put them on the very corner on top and they'll work pretty well.

Davidchan · Post by **Davidchan** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:12 am #199107

It's really not hard to counter the moving turret, specially if you have a sniper or Pharah. I've also seen quite a few Bastions get meathooked from that platform by Roadhog, and it is hilarous.

Symmetra is a hero I like in principal but dislike playing in general. Her teleporter just isn't good enough, she has no mobility to place it anywhere it might be useful/hard to find, her sentrys are pretty weak even when grouped up and they've only got slightly longer attack range than she can place them, so you pretty much have to stand where you want people to die to properly place them. Her shields could use a buff too, seeing how it takes up her E slot when it may as well be a passive team boost and give her something more useful as an active ability. Like shift her teleporter to E and make her ult power up her turrets and grant more shields for a duration. She's the worst support.

EndgamerAzari · Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:48 am

I knoooowwww but I got two victory poses and a highlight intro for her so I feel like I gotta at least try to learn her.

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:53 pm #199214

Davidchan wrote:It's really not hard to counter the moving turret, specially if you have a sniper or Pharah. I've also seen quite a few Bastions get meathooked from that platform by Roadhog, and it is hilarous.

Symmetra is a hero I like in principal but dislike playing in general. Her teleporter just isn't good enough, she has no mobility to place it anywhere it might be useful/hard to find, her sentrys are pretty weak even when grouped up and they've only got slightly longer attack range than she can place them, so you pretty much have to stand where you want people to die to properly place them. Her shields could use a buff too, seeing how it takes up her E slot when it may as well be a passive team boost and give her something more useful as an active ability. Like shift her teleporter to E and make her ult power up her turrets and grant more shields for a duration. She's the worst support.

Symmetra has a >60% win rate. She might need to be made more fun to play, but she doesn't need to be made stronger.

Akkryls · Post by **Akkryls** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:07 pm #199215

I think the thing about Symmetra is that you don't see her much in many matches so people massively underestimate her. And then suddenly get melted by her gun at max power.
I've been able to dive into a group of enemies and melt them before they realise what's going on.

Her turrets just depend on how dumb people are. Anyone who can react to being shot can take them out fairly quickly. Other than that, they can finish off low health enemies if you place them around health packs.
Winston is a pain in the ass to deal with though, since just waving his gun at your turrets and they all go down.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:09 pm #199239

I played against a symetra today

As Roadhog
Bulled them with the hook so much that they changed class

It seems to me that Symetra is mostly just a hero that kinda hopes you don't see her. Because if you do she's dead

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:39 pm #199244

I'd only honestly make her shield "E" ability a passive for the whole team and replace it with a moderate heal.

All the supports have some form of healing except her and it really makes her stick out.

EndgamerAzari · Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:57 pm

I feel like she needs to be a little more versatile to be a non-healing support class. Either give her another ability or change how her shield works. If you could give it to individual team members more often it'd be much more useful.

Akkryls · Post by **Akkryls** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:58 pm #199256

See, I first thought that her gun would charge the shield to a higher level rather than just 25 shields or whatever it is. That would kind of make more sense.
But yeah, she doesn't fill the support role in the same way the others do, she kind of suits the defense class more.

EndgamerAzari · Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:08 pm

I feel like they didn't fulfill the potential of her theme of "Hard Light Architect". She should have more kinds of constructs--barriers or other traps spring to mind, things to funnel the enemy team towards or away from certain areas.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:15 pm #199267

Symmetra is great. She doesn't need any changes.

She has a really high win percentage because the maps on which she's good are very obvious and the areas of the map in which she shines are really obvious. She's a very binary character that is either going to be great on this map that is coming up so you pick her and do well with her (because she's only difficult to use at first glance, but after a few rounds is very easy to execute) or is going to be terrible on this map that is coming up so you use someone else.

When she's good she's great. When she's not she's basically unplayable.

She doesn't need any extras. She can mass turrets on chokepoints and objectives that all DOT the enemy down while also slowing them. Her gun blows right through Reinharts shield adding pressure while they try to advance while locking on and sapping the life out of someone in close range if they try to mix it up with you. She gives her whole team a pool of additional, regenerating health. Her ult change the landscape of the map and allows your team to flood an area.

She's fucking great.

If her win percentage is only 60% overall it's probably because of spicy hot memesters trying to force Symmetra on attack because of hipster-tier faggotry snowflake playstyle, and getting scrubbed out. On the maps and roles where she's actually meant to be played I would wager her win% is closer to 80+

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:36 pm #199272

I actually played her on attack and it was great.
Slapped down 4 turrets on point and melted through Winston shield bubbles and pretty much anyone else who got close
Probably helped that the enemy team was 3 hanzos with shit tier aim

Then I stopped playing her because I wasn't actually having fun with it. It's neat placing turrets but after that it kinda just becomes like you're playing Winston with low health and single target damage instead of just electrics all over.

EndgamerAzari · Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:51 pm

She's certainly a complicated character to use, and I'm not very good with her, but I'm practicing. I just think they could have expanded on the idea some more. Imagine if she could temporarily create stairs or bridges, things like that.

Davidchan · Post by **Davidchan** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:39 am #199334

Drynwyn wrote:Symmetra has a >60% win rate. She might need to be made more fun to play, but she doesn't need to be made stronger.

Take a closer look at the stats. Winrate: 62.2% Total Playtime: 1.2%

She is a very niche hero with little to no flexibility. People choose her ONLY on attack/defend maps because she needs to be able to reinforce an area ahead. The only hero played less than Symmetra right now is Mei, and thats largely got to do with the hate she gets. Tourbjorn can at least hold his own, his armor is a miniheal and his ult improves his effectiveness. Symmetra on the otherhand, her ult is self defeating. If your team is doing good and not wiping/dying in droves, her teleporter is basically unneeded as the team is holding and doesn't need to be reinforced constantly. When her teleporter IS needed because the team got wrecked, the teleporter will likely be destroyed before the team can respawn and push out. To further complicate things, she can't even move the teleporter once it's placed so unlike a TF2 engi she can't tactically relocate it around the map so her team can better utilize the surprise of a quick return.

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:02 am #199597

Make her teleporter an E ability with a decently long cooldown.
Replace Ultimate with an overshield for a single person (ala Lucio) that doesn't decay after being applied.

IcePacks · Post by **IcePacks** » Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:59 am #200317

where were you when the saltening occurred?

Screemonster · Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:18 am

lololololololololol

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:51 pm #200416

I know the controls in this are garbage, but come on, really? Cheating?

Just play Mei if you want to piss people off

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:57 pm #200418

>All this massive asspain

It sustains me.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:06 pm #200419

Snort, giggle.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:23 pm #200428

I showed that to a friend and he linked a whole gallery of cheater butthurt

Enjoy
http://imgur.com/a/dXJB9

EndgamerAzari · Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:51 pm

I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG EVERYONE CHEATS REEEEEEE *farting sounds of air escaping from crease between neck-paunch and man-tits* THISH WILL NOT SHTAND

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:57 pm #200432

"how do i join anonymous"

Ooooooh. My spleen.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:57 pm #200444

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:54 pm #200459

Ha. The bans.

Well Blizzard still has your money and you're gone. See ya later Shitlords.

InsaneHyena · Post by **InsaneHyena** » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:30 pm #200469

> Blizzard jews release skins and other shit that can only be bought in limited lootboxes
> Zarya gets non-awful skins, some other heroes get skins, some victory poses, Junkrat gets a hindlight intro...
> Reinhardt gets absolutely nothing

GERMANY YES

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:13 am #200541

Just play Mei

Or Torbjorn
Shit, just go Lucio and take random shots at chokepoints. Nobody cares if you hit as long as you keep the healing aura on and press q every time someone ults

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:08 am #200548

Then play Junkrat, everyone who plays him has shit aim anyway. Me included

Or anything with shotguns, just aim near the head and it works