Add more miner slots

confused rock · Fri May 20, 2016 8:38 pm

instead of 3 miners there should be 4 or 5 miners die way too easy and some of them outright ignore ores plus lavaland is so big

allura · Post by **allura** » Fri May 20, 2016 8:40 pm #178157

InsaneHyena · Post by **InsaneHyena** » Fri May 20, 2016 8:40 pm #178158

Agreed, lavaland is huge, more miners are needed to cover it.

Lumbermancer · Fri May 20, 2016 8:44 pm

Go to HoP and ask to be a miner. It's usually not a problem.

Super Aggro Crag · Fri May 20, 2016 8:46 pm

lumbermancer, you're a fucking idiot, there's only three sets of miner gear you dumb potato, eat shit.

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Fri May 20, 2016 9:09 pm #178166

Miners should have all-access IDs and start fully augmented. They also should get c-20 SMGs with infinite ammo cause Lavaland is dangerous so obviously they need all these things and shouldn't be impeded. They should also be able to kill anyone who denies them access to R&D because only an ANTAG would do that obviously.

onleavedontatme · Fri May 20, 2016 9:20 pm

There are three spare kinetic accelerators/satchels/mesons/scanners though, that's all you need to mine.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Fri May 20, 2016 9:24 pm #178171

Miners don't need hardsuits anymore, so we don't need more miner slots.

What would be great is making all assistants miners and just throwing assistants at the lava planet with a fuckload more mobs.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Fri May 20, 2016 9:34 pm #178175

Honestly the suits don't do fuck all considering gulag miners are basically naked with internals and a pick, but yeah theres a ton of extra lockers at the outpost itself full of goodies.

Lumbermancer · Fri May 20, 2016 9:36 pm

Super Aggro Crag wrote:lumbermancer, you're a fucking idiot, there's only three sets of miner gear you dumb potato, eat shit.

Then ask other miners to buy you a hardsuit or grab suit from eva you lazy fucking fuck.

Incomptinence · Fri May 20, 2016 10:24 pm

Have a miner gear crate orderable at cargo to ensure all the assistants can fuck off and die to a dragon given time.

Lumbermancer · Fri May 20, 2016 10:31 pm

Just make it possible to trade vouchers for suits. Why was the spare voucher taken from HoP anyway?

DrPillzRedux · Fri May 20, 2016 10:36 pm

The problem is getting into mining. Most of the time the HoP will shutter their office and people won't let you in to lavaland. Even if they do, you can't open the airlocks. You either have to break windows, walls, or hack doors.

I don't see a problem with streamlining the process by adding 2 more miner slots. Hell, even a public shuttle that travels to lavaland after a minute would be cool.

onleavedontatme · Fri May 20, 2016 10:48 pm

Lumbermancer wrote:Just make it possible to trade vouchers for suits. Why was the spare voucher taken from HoP anyway?

Because people would just grab it roundstart for dual wielding KAs, was never used for job changes.

Also I have vague plans for a public section of the lavaland base and an associated shuttle, but I'm afraid that it will turn into swarms of people just overrunning all the mobs and taking everything not bolted down, like away missions did.

All the monsters right now are balanced for fighting a handful of miners, not a swarm.

I'm not sure how having a ton of people would impact the general feeling of surviving in the wilderness with a couple of friends. It's pretty nice and quiet right now.

Fri May 20, 2016 11:29 pm

Kor wrote:
Lumbermancer wrote:Just make it possible to trade vouchers for suits. Why was the spare voucher taken from HoP anyway?
Because people would just grab it roundstart for dual wielding KAs, was never used for job changes.

i've used it as a job change doohickey multiple times before and even given it to a dude that wanted to be a miner once

Sidon · Post by **Sidon** » Fri May 20, 2016 11:58 pm #178214

Kor wrote:
Lumbermancer wrote:Just make it possible to trade vouchers for suits. Why was the spare voucher taken from HoP anyway?
Because people would just grab it roundstart for dual wielding KAs, was never used for job changes.

Also I have vague plans for a public section of the lavaland base and an associated shuttle, but I'm afraid that it will turn into swarms of people just overrunning all the mobs and taking everything not bolted down, like away missions did.

All the monsters right now are balanced for fighting a handful of miners, not a swarm.

I'm not sure how having a ton of people would impact the general feeling of surviving in the wilderness with a couple of friends. It's pretty nice and quiet right now.

Keep it as it is, no need for the dirty station dwellers to be on lavaland. Increase the mining slots to 4 if you really want.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Sat May 21, 2016 12:07 am #178216

CosmicScientist wrote: for restraint over job numbers.

I imagine allowing more people down there would only be good for jobs that stick around the base. I wouldn't mind not being able to go out into the environment if I could pick a lesser wanted job that lets me see the weather at the very least. Of course you'd have to give them a job to do that requires their attention. CosmicScientist crosses his fingers for a job that involves managing a simplified geothermal power plant that is just big enough to keep the base and a small extension alive, uses above ground pipes with catwalks across the lava rivers for the sake of not relying on magical but instead mechanical function, easy to sabotage, vulnerable to ash build up from a large number of storms, easy to get damaged in crossfire and reasonably engaging to repair.

What about like a lavaland base attendant? Part chef part doctor part dispatch, he could watch suit sensors and make minor improvements to the base and stuff

confused rock · Sat May 21, 2016 12:21 am

Kor wrote:There are three spare kinetic accelerators/satchels/mesons/scanners though, that's all you need to mine.

there are literally only 3 explorer suits add more reee

Post by **Armhulen** » Sat May 21, 2016 3:47 am #178274

CosmicScientist wrote:
Wyzack wrote:snip

What about like a lavaland base attendant? Part chef part doctor part dispatch, he could watch suit sensors and make minor improvements to the base and stuff
...
I wish I was that good at coming up with ideas. I also wish I could wish that into existence because it has clearly defined goals and might make a small relationship each round between the miners and the attendant. Packs nutritious sandwiches into labelled lunch boxes. Monkey meat steak for Wyzack, potato crisps for Crag and a legion heart for Kor and a donk pocket for each to keep them healthy and then when they come back they can have ice cream and a manly dorf each!

If you want my opinion, I LOVE THIS IDEA

but I still think that was pretty gay.

DrPillzRedux · Sat May 21, 2016 4:09 am

Kor wrote:All the monsters right now are balanced for fighting a handful of miners, not a swarm.

With a public area, just either set more monsters to spawn there at round start AND have them respawn at a decent pace there. That way people are forced to move on and not stick at the shuttle.

Sat May 21, 2016 5:28 am

actually it would be nice to have at least 4 slots so we can have two duos each round, having a buddy makes lavaland 100% more fun

Ezel · Post by **Ezel** » Sat May 21, 2016 10:12 am #178349

Or just give qm.... his idd head console

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Sat May 21, 2016 2:07 pm #178376

Four miners seems like a good number.

Going off of the isolation feeling I think a fifth miner who's job is to build up the miner home base would be interesting.

This is more a suggestion but I think having the miner home base start off with minimal equipment would be interesting, but a fifth job could expand the base with pre-set tools requiring minerals.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Sat May 21, 2016 5:04 pm #178420

Played two rounds last night where I spawned as an MD and got mining access.

Almost immediately two of them get dunked, finish off the goliath they got low and patched one up on the spot and dragged the other to cloning. Then singulo got loose and ripped clean through the station causing a 25 minute shuttle timer, had to spacewalk multiple times grabbing stranded people and dragged them in a locker to lavaland and patched them up there having a stalker-esque gathering and squatting around some cooked goliath steaks complete with guitar playing. Then we all died trying to get to the escape shuttle once it docked.

Seriously go get access as an MD down there if you're even mildly robust, its good shit.

onleavedontatme · Sat May 21, 2016 9:11 pm

Now that we have all realized that PVE is fun we should gear the game/station to be more PVE oriented rather than creating lavaland equivalents of each job.

Yeah lavaland bartender would be fun, as would being a doctor with an actual job to do, so why not make that the standard?

When I map planetstation (or trick someone else into doing it) the bartender will have a bar outside the compound walls on his own little island or something it will be very comfy.

Post by **MMMiracles** » Sat May 21, 2016 9:26 pm #178493

vote for lavastation 2020

Post by **NikNakFlak** » Sat May 21, 2016 11:36 pm #178506

I'm not sure why we have a station anymore anyway. Let's just make lavaland the main game and make 3 slots that go to the main station in space

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Sat May 21, 2016 11:51 pm #178512

NikNakFlak wrote:I'm not sure why we have a station anymore anyway. Let's just make lavaland the main game and make 3 slots that go to the main station in space

Because atmospherics, habitable space constraints, more dangers relating to atmospherics and temperature in general, and a cramped environment where hostile douchebags are forced to be near eachother.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Sun May 22, 2016 12:22 am #178518

>because atmospherics

ShadowDimentio · Sun May 22, 2016 12:40 am

Space is controversial so we need to go somewhere else, a place more kickin' and rad

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Sun May 22, 2016 1:41 am #178534

Lava Station 13 when?

Post by **Armhulen** » Sun May 22, 2016 4:15 am #178544

CosmicScientist wrote:
Armhulen wrote:...
but I still think that was pretty gay.
... and an entire traitor poison kit with plasma included to boot for little Armhulen, I'll just put the contents into this clown burger for safe keeping and put that into their lunch box.

if you think i'm gonna eat a clown burger you got another thing coming pal

Sun May 22, 2016 6:23 am

Kor wrote:When I map planetstation (or trick someone else into doing it) the bartender will have a bar outside the compound walls on his own little island or something it will be very comfy.

Junglestation confirmed????????????

Incomptinence · Sun May 22, 2016 8:54 am

Waiting for mappers and coders decide planet needs to suck because people are leaving their master work stations to have actual fun.

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Sun May 22, 2016 12:10 pm #178624

PvE game mode when?

Make it that a large bunch of tendrils shoot out from the planet, impaling the station. Now the crew have to rally to fight off the attacking creatures lest they overrun the station. The longer the tendrils remain fixed in the station the more they corrupt the surrounding area.

WarbossLincoln · Sun May 22, 2016 8:40 pm

CosmicScientist wrote:
Wyzack wrote:snip

What about like a lavaland base attendant? Part chef part doctor part dispatch, he could watch suit sensors and make minor improvements to the base and stuff
...
I wish I was that good at coming up with ideas. I also wish I could wish that into existence because it has clearly defined goals and might make a small relationship each round between the miners and the attendant. Packs nutritious sandwiches into labelled lunch boxes. Monkey meat steak for Wyzack, potato crisps for Crag and a legion heart for Kor and a donk pocket for each to keep them healthy and then when they come back they can have ice cream and a manly dorf each!

That's not a bad idea, but it sounds like something that would be suited for an assistant to do. Go get access from the HOP, gather some supplies, and head down there.

DrPillzRedux · Sun May 22, 2016 9:08 pm

Half the time I try to get access from the HoP they deny it, even if I'm a med doc trying to help miners.

The "go to hop" crowd needs to rethink that.

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Sun May 22, 2016 9:53 pm #178755

You all do realize the HoP can open slots, right? And that this is the intended use of that, not opening infinite clown slots? But god forbid anyone in this playerbase ever does their job.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Sun May 22, 2016 11:20 pm #178784

DrPillzRedux wrote:Half the time I try to get access from the HoP they deny it, even if I'm a med doc trying to help miners.

The "go to hop" crowd needs to rethink that.

What a shitty hop, shove his dog in a washing machine.

Ezel · Post by **Ezel** » Sun May 22, 2016 11:22 pm #178785

Saegrimr wrote:
DrPillzRedux wrote:Half the time I try to get access from the HoP they deny it, even if I'm a med doc trying to help miners.

The "go to hop" crowd needs to rethink that.
What a shitty hop, shove his dog in a washing machine.

I dont care about the dog

Takeguru · Post by **Takeguru** » Mon May 23, 2016 4:52 pm #179122

Shove the HoP in the washing machine

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Mon May 23, 2016 9:34 pm #179221

Shove his dog in the HoP

captain sawrge · Mon May 23, 2016 9:38 pm

more like add more minor slots cause vthis gamew is fukll of children

Takeguru · Post by **Takeguru** » Tue May 24, 2016 3:27 pm #179642

Saegrimr wrote:Shove his dog in the HoP

ERP is banned though ???

MrEousTranger · Thu May 26, 2016 4:54 pm

CosmicScientist wrote:
Wyzack wrote:snip

What about like a lavaland base attendant? Part chef part doctor part dispatch, he could watch suit sensors and make minor improvements to the base and stuff
...
I wish I was that good at coming up with ideas. I also wish I could wish that into existence because it has clearly defined goals and might make a small relationship each round between the miners and the attendant. Packs nutritious sandwiches into labelled lunch boxes. Monkey meat steak for Wyzack, potato crisps for Crag and a legion heart for Kor and a donk pocket for each to keep them healthy and then when they come back they can have ice cream and a manly dorf each!

I totally love the idea, but there's already a functioning medical and food portion of the lavaland base but no one to run it. All you really need is hop to give you proper access and you could RP this job on your own, plus you already have almost instant access to materials used to build working machines.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Thu May 26, 2016 5:01 pm #180497

Really the hardest part would be importing medicine, ingredients and building materials. Would be an interesting role

Post by **Armhulen** » Thu May 26, 2016 5:05 pm #180500

Wyzack wrote:Really the hardest part would be importing medicine, ingredients and building materials. Would be an interesting role

honestly we need to make lavaland a station thing and not a mining thing. just give medical doctors access to their medevac shuttle, we already are going to have a research outpost thing so fuck it do it live

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Fri May 27, 2016 6:24 am #180756

We do it live and kicking.
Add Laval Clowns to entertain the miners tbh. And Lava Mimes.
And Lava Botanists to make the Lava Clowns Lava Bananas to slip the Lava Miners

Ezel · Post by **Ezel** » Fri May 27, 2016 2:31 pm #180838

And lava security to beat up lava ashtide

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Fri May 27, 2016 2:34 pm #180839

Lava station when? I mean i am semi serious about this. We have talked at length about a planet map, but lavaland addresses a lot of our concerns about making outside the station still dangerous and provides plenty of natural barriers to moving around. We could also connect to other Z's through gates like the one blocking the weather machine.