Hey kiddos, I've added Krav Maga to the game and am considering adding it for sec. Check out the PR here.
As you might expect, it's pretty controversial. It is definitely a sec buff, no sugar coating it. I think it would be really fun, however, and that's why I've decided to push it anyways.
Click the spoiler here to see what Krav Maga actually does
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Krav Maga is a fighting style, sort of like Sleeping Carp. Instead of using intent-based combos, however, it gives you a list of action buttons. Pressing one will cause your next attack to be whichever attack you selected.
Krav Maga is currently admin-only. It can be used via the Krav Maga Gloves, which remove your Krav Maga if you remove them, and the Krav Maga implant, a single use implant that imbues the user with permanent Krav Maga.
Krav Maga has three moves:
1. Leg Sweep: A formidable stun. It sweeps the victims legs out from under them. Only usable on standing opponents. (It does Weaken(2), 1 higher than the weakest possible stun)
2. Neck Chop: A devastating blow to the neck that prevents the victim from speaking for a while.
3. Lung Punch: A quick, precise, and powerful blow above the abdomen renders the victim unable to breathe for a short while.
Other things that Krav Maga does:
Krav Maga makes your punches do a set 10 damage to opponents, and 15 if they're prone. However, you cannot get weaken punches.
Krav Maga makes disarmed items go directly into your hands instead of onto the floor. However, you cannot push.
Attacking with Krav Maga has unique sound effects to alert passerby of your fighting style.
Preparing to use a move will alert passerby with a message, such as "Fighter McKrav assumes the Neck Chop stance!"
Kor ran an ingame vote, and as you might expect, it was pretty inconclusive. As such, I've decided to make this thread. Please vote on the poll. Thank you.
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Server vote was, if you're curious, Should security get krav maga martial arts roundstart?
Yes: 13
No: 5
Did not vote: 38
Zilenan91 wrote:Why not just make their leg sweep do a lot of stamina damage or be RnG on if it knocks someone over or not, slowing otherwise.
I genuinely do not believe this will be as much of an issue as people have made it out to be. It does Weaken(2) (for reference, the shortest stun possible is Weaken(1), and telebatons do Weaken(3)) and can't be used on already-weakened people, meaning it can't be used to chainstun (since the stunned person can just hold an arrow key and instantly sprint away the second he gets up) and doesn't even knock people down long enough to handcuff.
If it somehow does become an issue, I'll consider your idea. Maybe I'll rename it to "Nerve Pinch" or something.
Only the warden should get it, The HoS already has a stun/disable/laser gun and sec officers aren't a sargent.
I like to believe that the HoS forgets his training after lack of use.
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A retards guide on how to make a maxcap bomb in toxins.
Grab a oxygen tank and a plasma tank and bring them to the testing lab.
Super cool the Oxygen and superheat the Plasma.
Clean out the oxygen and plasma tanks with a filter/pump.
Then you wrench and unwrench the plasma and oxygen tanks in toxins. It`s important tha you do it one at a time. Try to get a 85%plasma and 15% oxygen mix.
Once you have a good burn mix, pump the mix into the burn chamber and light it on fire. Wait 10 seconds for it to heat up and pump it into a yellow (empty) canister.
Quickly set the kpa output to 163 kpa and fill the tanks with the burn mix.
Take the oxygen tanks and fill it up with a 613kpa worth of oxygen FIRST then fill the rest with plasma, you should get well over 2000kpa in the end.
With the new atmos system you should wait 5-10 minutes for you tanks to bake.
Take a tank transfer valve, add a oxygen tank and a plasma tank to it. You should have a maxcap bomb. Have fun blowing up the station mining!
Saegrimr wrote:Weakened 2 is barely enough time to whip out a prod from your backpack to hit him with it. Its about the same down time as being shoved from disarm.
Except you can then just curb stomp their head in with 15 damage punches (!!!) until they're in crit/dead before they can get up
P.S. Shoot Dr. Allen on sight and dissolve his body in acid. Don't burn it.
Saegrimr wrote:Weakened 2 is barely enough time to whip out a prod from your backpack to hit him with it. Its about the same down time as being shoved from disarm.
Except you can then just curb stomp their head in with 15 damage punches (!!!) until they're in crit/dead before they can get up
Assuming there's no cooldown on it, which I have no idea I haven't used it yet.
tedward1337 wrote:Sae is like the racist grandad who everyone laughs at for being racist, but deep down we all know he's right.
To be fair, on Hippie you can crawl while in crit so the 15 damage may seem like a lot here but it's not actually that lethal there. I think it's fine personally.
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Zilenan91 wrote:
Just replace both their arms with chainsaws.
Saegrimr wrote:Weakened 2 is barely enough time to whip out a prod from your backpack to hit him with it. Its about the same down time as being shoved from disarm.
Except you can then just curb stomp their head in with 15 damage punches (!!!) until they're in crit/dead before they can get up
Assuming there's no cooldown on it, which I have no idea I haven't used it yet.
All punches do 15 damage if the target is prone
P.S. Shoot Dr. Allen on sight and dissolve his body in acid. Don't burn it.
Instead of making it standard, make it aid Sec during low-sec or no-sec situations. i.e. when roundstart sec is < % of crew. Or when new players join security when it's below that %.
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This sounds awesome, but also probably a little bit too good for security officers. Also, if I've somehow failed with my taser and my flashbang, there's a good chance I'm already fucked. It is a baton alternative (especially how it does 10 damage punches!), but it also lets a robust melee antagonist really snowball further.
With that in mind, I think it's best for the warden and HOS. However, I really don't want it to encourage the warden to go out of the brig more. I just think a lot of it is particularly suitable for managing prisoners. It sounds like a lot of fun...but may be too deadly for the rank and file to safely use.
I think it makes more sense to only give it to the warden, the idea being that they are supposed to..you know...stay in the brig even more so now that they can fuck up anyone messing around in the brig or getting out of line. but of course even if you give it to the warden every single person in this game is just going to start/keep playing warden like another sec officer
Add an immovable squat stance and make it Slav Maga.
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MAYBE IF YOU'D QUIT SHITTING ON THE PLATE WHEN YOU'RE TOO LAZY TO GET UP TO GO TO THE RESTROOM AND JUST PUT THEM IN THE FUCKING SINK WHEN YOU'RE DONE
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Saegrimr wrote:It should be common sense but this is /tg/.
Saegrimr wrote:Holy shit I just tried the gloves this shit is ridiculously robust
the gloves as they currently are in the game still have weaken(4), krav itself is updated (updated as in nerfed) in the PR that adds them to sec
when goof first tried pushing krav it had weaken(6), and just weaken(4) is enough to outright kill an unarmored target so i nerfed the fuck out of it in the PR that actually adds it to the game
Why even have a mutesting option? It's utterly useless for security but it could be insane for an antag if he gets his hands on one. It's like these gloves are designed to be looted
Malkevin wrote:They require implants to function as well
Can you change the name to something other than jewjitsu?
Some kind of play on the word robust maybe
they do not require implants what the fuck made you think that
an implant that gives you krav exists in the code but isn't being implemented (at least not yet)
the name is fine get cultured
Grazyn wrote:Why even have a mutesting option? It's utterly useless for security but it could be insane for an antag if he gets his hands on one. It's like these gloves are designed to be looted
"H-HELP SEC IS RAPING ME JUST BECAUSE I BROKE INTO THE MEDBAY AND ASSAULTED THE CMO AI HELP THEY'RE GIVING ME THE BAD TOUCH REEEEEEEEEEEEE--"
-mutepunch-
Malkevin wrote:They require implants to function as well
Can you change the name to something other than jewjitsu?
Some kind of play on the word robust maybe
they do not require implants what the fuck made you think that
an implant that gives you krav exists in the code but isn't being implemented (at least not yet)
the name is fine get cultured
Fuck off Hebe.
And your piss poor grammar is what made me think that.
It can be used via the Krav Maga Gloves, which remove your Krav Maga if you remove them, and the Krav Maga implant, a single use implant that imbues the user with permanent Krav Maga.
Grazyn wrote:Why even have a mutesting option? It's utterly useless for security but it could be insane for an antag if he gets his hands on one. It's like these gloves are designed to be looted
"H-HELP SEC IS RAPING ME JUST BECAUSE I BROKE INTO THE MEDBAY AND ASSAULTED THE CMO AI HELP THEY'RE GIVING ME THE BAD TOUCH REEEEEEEEEEEEE--"
-mutepunch-
Sec already removes your headset if you dare protest tho
Grazyn wrote:Why even have a mutesting option? It's utterly useless for security but it could be insane for an antag if he gets his hands on one. It's like these gloves are designed to be looted
"H-HELP SEC IS RAPING ME JUST BECAUSE I BROKE INTO THE MEDBAY AND ASSAULTED THE CMO AI HELP THEY'RE GIVING ME THE BAD TOUCH REEEEEEEEEEEEE--"
-mutepunch-
Sec already removes your headset if you dare protest tho
i dunno i just think that we're adding all these things that just makes people ultra robust in hand to hand scroll wrestling belt and now this literally no skill involved in combat just press 1 button and you've got them stunlocked
Grazyn wrote:Why even have a mutesting option? It's utterly useless for security but it could be insane for an antag if he gets his hands on one. It's like these gloves are designed to be looted
"H-HELP SEC IS RAPING ME JUST BECAUSE I BROKE INTO THE MEDBAY AND ASSAULTED THE CMO AI HELP THEY'RE GIVING ME THE BAD TOUCH REEEEEEEEEEEEE--"
-mutepunch-
Sec already removes your headset if you dare protest tho
so you agree that it's fine then?
I guess a mutepunch before arresting is good so they can't summon their metafriends via radio to snatch them from your clutches. Then you can remove their headset before the mute expires. Also good if you want to quickly execute a traitor without them yelling to the AI
cocothegogo wrote:i dunno i just think that we're adding all these things that just makes people ultra robust in hand to hand scroll wrestling belt and now this literally no skill involved in combat just press 1 button and you've got them stunlocked
not even remotely a stunlock
it's weaken(2) and can't be used on people that are weakened
that means that it's like a push, only the downed person can hold an arrow key and get away from the next attack for free
how many times will i have to explain this
Its a 10 damage punch that can be followed up with about 4 more 15 damage kicks, assuming you don't just whip out the baton and stun them regularly after.
tedward1337 wrote:Sae is like the racist grandad who everyone laughs at for being racist, but deep down we all know he's right.
