Little things you learned that are game changing

Venticular · Post by **Venticular** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:25 pm #164835

Bottom post of the previous page:

Holy shit, brb, time to turn into a power gamer

Ezel · Post by **Ezel** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:59 pm #164842

I once accidently moved the intergrated tool arm butfon without knowing i thought it was a bug where other buttons overlay kt just irritating you cant resey it by removing and wearing it again or something

Remie Richards · Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:02 pm

Ezel wrote:I once accidently moved the intergrated tool arm butfon without knowing i thought it was a bug where other buttons overlay kt just irritating you cant resey it by removing and wearing it again or something

shift click movable screen objects to reset them.

Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:18 pm

Remie Richards wrote:
Ezel wrote:I once accidently moved the intergrated tool arm butfon without knowing i thought it was a bug where other buttons overlay kt just irritating you cant resey it by removing and wearing it again or something
shift click movable screen objects to reset them.

WHAT

Luke Cox · Post by **Luke Cox** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:33 pm #164853

If you sabotage telcoms by blowing it up or deconstructing the transmitters/receivers, you're doing it wrong. Grab a multitool and fuck with the settings. Nobody will ever know why it isn't working. Also, you can spoof PDA messages with the monitoring console. I started a round-long feud between the captain and HoP doing this once, it was hilarious. As a traitor, you can also "accidentally" PDA the HoS about having bombs ready to plant or something of the sort as your target, and pretend it was a misclick.

Ezel · Post by **Ezel** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:46 pm #164859

Remie Richards wrote:
Ezel wrote:I once accidently moved the intergrated tool arm butfon without knowing i thought it was a bug where other buttons overlay kt just irritating you cant resey it by removing and wearing it again or something
shift click movable screen objects to reset them.

GAMECHANGING

Remie Richards · Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:08 pm

CosmicScientist wrote:
Remie Richards wrote:
Ezel wrote:I once accidently moved the intergrated tool arm butfon without knowing i thought it was a bug where other buttons overlay kt just irritating you cant resey it by removing and wearing it again or something
shift click movable screen objects to reset them.
It's nawt wurking! Muh OCD!

Ah, Phil broke it when he made action button updates happen on-demand rather than on a constant loop (which was a good update, he just missed this)
the shift click just needs to instantly redraw the buttons.

Edit: fixed https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/16453

Cuboos · Post by **Cuboos** » Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:38 pm #166501

I'm not sure if this is all that game changing. But it's interesting and a good way to learn disposals. On almost every server it is possible to rout nearly the entire disposals system to the HoP's office. I have done this a lot on Box and once or twice on Meta, considering how most maps are designed this should work almost all of them. Why HoP's office? because it's almost always located near Cargo. Usually this is because HoP is suppose to oversee cargo a lot and disposals is directed to cargo's reclamation room before being sent to the recycler.

This means a few things (usually), there is a junction where all disposals meet near cargo, there for, there is a junction where all disposals meet near HoP's office.

On Box, it's in maint below bridge and cargo

Spoiler:

This will rout every single thing in the disposals to HoP's office.

I'll be getting some pictures for Meta soon.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:51 pm #166503

I'm glad that this trick isn't kept in the sekrit klub, so now I know about I guess. I'll see what kind of griff I can get up to with this, so thanks.

Screemonster · Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:29 pm

Giving books the same names as traitor items and putting them in your bag as you pass a security officer (or anyone really) is hilarious.

Jeb · Post by **Jeb** » Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:40 pm #166519

Zilenan91 wrote:I'm glad that this trick isn't kept in the sekrit klub, so now I know about I guess. I'll see what kind of griff I can get up to with this, so thanks.

Before you do this, prepare a lesser used disposal.

Empty out toolboxes into them, individual metal rods, glass shards, etc. If it's sharp or blunt, stick it in.

Then reroute disposals when the HoP is in his office, go back and launch your disposal.

Run back to the office and stand outside and witness, most times if he's in the right place it'll either put him into crit or straight up kill him.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:42 pm #166521

I was gonna use it to tide and be a nuisance not murder him

Jeb · Post by **Jeb** » Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:44 pm #166522

Zilenan91 wrote:I was gonna use it to tide and be a nuisance not murder him

Well, in that case, I've successfully killed Ian quite a number of times using this method.

Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:16 pm

chemistry life reagent is a bucket of fun and easy to make!
1. be a chemist (not necessary but very helpful)
2. get a watertank and get the chaplain to bless it (if there is no chaplain, then break in and steal the holy water flask)
3. climb table into kitchen, snag the box of donk pockets, cook them all, and grind them for omnizine
4. get syringe and fill a bottle with 30u of blood, then take 15u more in the syringe itself
5. brew synthflesh with chemmaster and the 15u blood syringe
6. brew strange reagent with mutagen, holy water, and omnizine
7. fill a large beaker with 30u of strange reagent, 30u blood, and 30u synthflesh
8. get a dropper and another bottle

now you're ready to do science.
1. set dropper to 3u and draw from the big beaker into the little bottle so the bottle has 1u of each ingredient required for life
1a. get eye protection (not required)
2. find secluded area (unless you're a traitor)
3. heat the shit out of the little bottle until it flashes you (if you have eye protection that's good since you don't get flashed)
4. it poops out a monster! now you can kill it or whatever

things you can do with this:
- next-level traitoring. if you jog down a hall while doing this it's pretty much like gold slimes
- accidentally create zombies and make the round a zombie round (just like xenobio!)
- accidentally create a statue that terrorizes the crew for the rest of the round
- accidentally create a chaos magicarp that can transform the crew (one time i made myself into a xeno like this)
- straight up hunt monsters for the chef/for fun
- make headslugs that used to be able to make people into changelings, but can now be used to gib corpses and spook people

the fun never ends!

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:17 am #166562

TIL that dental implants accept patches since they're a child of pills

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:39 am #166575

inb4 crate wrapping gets fixed

Venticular · Post by **Venticular** » Mon Apr 04, 2016 3:06 pm #166641

inb4 crate kidnapping is a popular greytide thing

Smeller · Post by **Smeller** » Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:43 pm #166647

You can put improvised shotgun on military jacket's exosuit slot for all your soldier's needs

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:48 pm #166853

A pneumatic cannon filled with multiple objects can be used to trigger a shit-ton of electrified grille zaps in a single click.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:46 pm #166962

folders work quite well because of them having I think zero throwforce.

Cuboos · Post by **Cuboos** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 12:31 am #168398

Okay, so here's part two of Rerouting disposals to the HoP's office, Meta Addition.

I finally got to play a round when it rolled Meta, and after a bit if fiddling, i managed to re-rout the entire system to HoP's. This one is a bit tricky and will require an RPD. Luckily meta has a public autolathe by default, so after a bit of hacking, you should be able to acquire one.

The junction for for disposals is located just below reclamation and a little to the left

In order to fully re-rout it, you're going to need to do a little bit of deconstruction, then build three bent pipes.

(there is a third bent pipe underneath that wall, i was too lazy to deconstruct it again)

Then you are going to need to build a long line of pipes from there to the HoP's office

If you've done this on Box, then you should already have a good enough idea of how to switch out pipes. Then you're done! greifprank the HoP to your hearts content!

that's probably going to be it for a while on rerouting Disposals to the HoP's office, since map rotation only really chooses Box/Meta (thank god) anymore.

TheWiznard · Post by **TheWiznard** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:13 pm #168641

Put welding tank in crate
Close crate
Hit crate with cable coil
Attach electro pack
Leave crate out in the open and say you found a surplus crate in maintenance

....

Kaboom

Actually not sure if it blows up, probably not. BUT if you ARE a traitor do this along with the c4 signaller for an even better surprise. If they aren't wearing gloves they get a decent stun shock knocking them over. Then either push the crate on them and run off and fire or fire after you yell surprise.

Can you even attach a motion sensor to c4? If so might work hilariously when they think its actually just a joke crate then they open the real surprise, cause the crate doesn't open when it shocked people

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:40 pm #168647

the wiki says you can hack a c4 (and thus make the whole motion sensor thing) but the last time I tried it didn't work. I screwdrived it open, but then using a multitool on it did nothing, and using it in hand just brought up the window where you set the timer.

Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:41 pm

Grazyn wrote:the wiki says you can hack a c4 (and thus make the whole motion sensor thing) but the last time I tried it didn't work. I screwdrived it open, but then using a multitool on it did nothing, and using it in hand just brought up the window where you set the timer.

you have to use an assembly item on it iirc, like a signaller

ImaTowel · Post by **ImaTowel** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:56 am #168762

Bartender is actually just an alcoholic chemist. Glasses are beakers and the mixer is a large beaker. Here's a couple tricks I've found.

Unless someone comes in with science googles ONLY YOU know what is in a drink due to the beer goggles. As traitor this proves to be very handy.

If your drink has a neat sprite (like syndicate bomb, changling sting, etc) it will look like that sprite as long as its the majority of the glass it is in.

There's a lot more to bartender if you really look into it. I got way too carried away and calculated how much for a given drink will kill you the other day using simple math and testing on myself.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:01 am #168934

Yeah it's great. There's a reason it's my favorite job.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:03 am #168935

Also you get a snowflake shotgun which is awesome when shit hits the fan and you prepared a box of shotgun slugs

ImaTowel · Post by **ImaTowel** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:37 pm #169105

I like some of the subtle effects of certain drinks too that aren't mentioned on the wiki, for instance Barefoot. It heals brute damage under a certain, but obvious condition.

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:00 pm #169110

ImaTowel wrote:I like some of the subtle effects of certain drinks too that aren't mentioned on the wiki, for instance Barefoot. It heals brute damage under a certain, but obvious condition.

Cuba Libre's is nice too tbh.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:16 pm #169117

Wyzack wrote:Also you get a snowflake shotgun which is awesome when shit hits the fan and you prepared a box of shotgun slugs

Speaking of that, I know you can craft shells, but can you add anything to a tech shell? Like for a classic rocksalt shot, or capasin for stun shell without the electric?

Super Aggro Crag · Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:36 pm

tell us the secret effects

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:08 pm #169126

Super Aggro Crag wrote:tell us the secret effects

Alright lad
Cuba Libre heals revolutionaries, and only revolutionaries. Dunno about headrevs though.
Barefoot heals your brute damage, and quite a decent amount too but only while you're not wearing shoes.
Syndicate bomb has a small chance of playing an explosion sound when drunk.
Demon's Blood and Devil's Kiss makes any nearby Salughter Demons drain your life I *think*. That one i'm not so sure about.
The something fizz (I can't remmeber it's name of the top of my head, the glass looks like a magnet) makes you attract loose bits of ore to your person.
Anti-freeze warms you up enough to survive in space, if you don't mind stumbling about drunkenly so I wouldn't recommend it.
Iced tea cools you down if you're overheated and heals toxin damage better than tea does.
Changeling Sting causes Changelings to rapidly regenerate their chemical storage while it's in their system.

That's all I can recall off the top of my head

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:45 pm #169134

That Changeling Sting tip actually sounds really useful

If only changelings weren't boring and/or disabled

ImaTowel · Post by **ImaTowel** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:22 am #169165

Anonmare wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:tell us the secret effects
Alright lad
Cuba Libre heals revolutionaries, and only revolutionaries. Dunno about headrevs though.
Barefoot heals your brute damage, and quite a decent amount too but only while you're not wearing shoes.
Syndicate bomb has a small chance of playing an explosion sound when drunk.
Demon's Blood and Devil's Kiss makes any nearby Salughter Demons drain your life I *think*. That one i'm not so sure about.
The something fizz (I can't remmeber it's name of the top of my head, the glass looks like a magnet) makes you attract loose bits of ore to your person.
Anti-freeze warms you up enough to survive in space, if you don't mind stumbling about drunkenly so I wouldn't recommend it.
Iced tea cools you down if you're overheated and heals toxin damage better than tea does.
Changeling Sting causes Changelings to rapidly regenerate their chemical storage while it's in their system.

That's all I can recall off the top of my head

Cuba libre is both and same for each. Heals all stats and O2 loss.
Demon's Blood and Devil's kiss have each its own effect. One prevents you from being sucked into demon pools and the other causes brute damage to the demon who eats you but i cant recall what does what.
Screwdrivers heal rad damage for engineers

ShadowDimentio · Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:40 am

Why are those bonuses not mentioned on the wiki? They're cool and totally should be

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:52 am #169167

Because nobody updates the wiki

ImaTowel · Post by **ImaTowel** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:57 am #169168

The wiki is pretty outdated in a lot of places. I'd gladly do edits if I am able too

Super Aggro Crag · Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:32 am

i know that straight lime juice can cure a bit of toxin damage

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:44 am #169173

yeah, it has a 20% chance per tick to heal 1 toxin. Cream is the same with brute, tomato juice does it for burn, and OJ does it for oxygen.

Pilgrim · Post by **Pilgrim** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:00 am #169179

What's a good drink for a detective? I generally go with hard whiskey or a rum and coke for the sake of being hardboiled, but if any seekrit drinks heal him in particular or give security-related benefits it'd be handy to know.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:05 am #169180

There aren't any drinks that heal the detective in particular but there probably should be.

ImaTowel · Post by **ImaTowel** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:28 am #169184

I second that. Maybe the detective should have a tolerance to that certain drink too? When I've served the detective as bartender the drink of choice is always whiskey based so maybe a ninja update where the whiskey base alcohols heal certain damages up to the 50% threshold (Whiskey straight (on the rocks), Whiskey sour, Whiskey Cola, etc.)

Pilgrim · Post by **Pilgrim** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:48 am #169187

Yeah, the detective should be a hard drinker and not get drunk off a couple sips of hard liquor as he currently does.

I support making the detective start the round as an alcoholic with the ability to wean himself off as the round progresses or remain as such with the added bonus of never vomiting or slurring his speech when drunk.

TheNightingale · Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:37 am

Pilgrim wrote:What's a good drink for a detective? I generally go with hard whiskey or a rum and coke for the sake of being hardboiled, but if any seekrit drinks heal him in particular or give security-related benefits it'd be handy to know.

The Manhattan's description calls it the Detective's drink of choice. It's got whiskey in it too.

Remie Richards · Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:00 pm

Anonmare wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:tell us the secret effects
Alright lad
Cuba Libre heals revolutionaries, and only revolutionaries. Dunno about headrevs though.
Barefoot heals your brute damage, and quite a decent amount too but only while you're not wearing shoes.
Syndicate bomb has a small chance of playing an explosion sound when drunk.
Demon's Blood and Devil's Kiss makes any nearby Salughter Demons drain your life I *think*. That one i'm not so sure about.
The something fizz (I can't remmeber it's name of the top of my head, the glass looks like a magnet) makes you attract loose bits of ore to your person.
Anti-freeze warms you up enough to survive in space, if you don't mind stumbling about drunkenly so I wouldn't recommend it.
Iced tea cools you down if you're overheated and heals toxin damage better than tea does.
Changeling Sting causes Changelings to rapidly regenerate their chemical storage while it's in their system.

That's all I can recall off the top of my head

A lot of them you got right, here's the corrections:

Demon's Blood prevents you from being pulled into blood pools by a demon, you're 100% safe while you have some in your system.
Devil's kiss just fucks the demon up if it tries to pull you in (25 brute to the demon, and lets you go)
Fetching fiz? - Pulls all ores nearby(3 turfs) towards you every Life() tick (it's a step, not a throw, so you won't get hurt)

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:22 pm #169224

Give the detective snowflake alcohol resistance when

Super Aggro Crag · Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:39 pm

Zilenan91 wrote:yeah, it has a 20% chance per tick to heal 1 toxin. Cream is the same with brute, tomato juice does it for burn, and OJ does it for oxygen.

whenever i have a very small amount of damage i go to the bar and chug juice so i don't have to waste medical supplies.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:37 pm #169299

Yeah juice was great back when slipping damage was a thing. Slipping damage was still terrible.

Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:10 pm

Wyzack wrote:Give the detective snowflake alcohol resistance when

i could have sworn this was already a thing, i thought xhuis added alcohol resistance level as a var to humans in the refactor

kazeespada · Post by **kazeespada** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:21 am #169434

PKPenguin321 wrote:
Wyzack wrote:Give the detective snowflake alcohol resistance when
i could have sworn this was already a thing, i thought xhuis added alcohol resistance level as a var to humans in the refactor

He did but he only gave it to the bartender.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:18 pm #169654

If you alt+click a cigarette packet you close it.