is "coderbus" one entity or a group of people

iamgoofball · Post by **iamgoofball** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:10 pm #165587

players seem to think the coderbus is this one entity with the goal to change the game how it sees fit

coderbus states this is not the case, and that coderbus is simply a group of volunteers with the goal to change the game how they see fit

discuss

Post by **oranges** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:10 pm #165588

fuck off with this autism it doesn't even need to be said why is this even here goof please

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:17 pm #165593

Coderbus is actually a kabal of hooded reptilians who work in tandem with a variety of spoof accounts in order to enforce the social justice warrior agenda and remove freedom from our spacemangame. This was confirmed to me by several top permabanned informants, god bless

TheNightingale · Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:26 pm

Wyzack wrote:Coderbus is actually a kabal of hooded reptilians who work in tandem with a variety of spoof accounts in order to enforce the social justice warrior agenda and remove freedom from our spacemangame. This was confirmed to me by several top permabanned informants, god bless

As an SJW hooded reptilian, I can confirm this is exactly how it works. Coderbus is just one claw of our many-armed lizard plan; we've already infiltrated Congress.

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:28 pm #165601

Bullshit. I say that they're just a bunch of random assholes who just happen to coalesce long enough to hammer out something coherent! Even a million monkeys can write poetry given enough time maaan.

CPTANT · Post by **CPTANT** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:39 pm #165611

Piss off with the shitposting please.

The actual relevant issue is whether the current way coderbus operates is the best one, or that more structural thinking would be beneficial.

ShadowDimentio · Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:43 pm

It's not an entity but the way it's run it might as well be

See: the newcult saga and our hero Oldman saving us from the darkness

Hornygranny · Post by **Hornygranny** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:51 pm #165617

have you joined that irc channel ever?

CPTANT · Post by **CPTANT** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:56 pm #165620

Hornygranny wrote:have you joined that irc channel ever?

Why is irc so preferred to communicate, while it is a medium that makes browsing history or categorizing topics horrible?

onleavedontatme · Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:59 pm

ShadowDimentio wrote:It's not an entity but the way it's run it might as well be

Man I wish. Would be nice if everyone just agreed with me all the time.

ShadowDimentio wrote: See: the newcult saga and our hero Oldman saving us from the darkness

You mean the saga of "random community member with no real background in coding wants a change, is assisted in creating a PR, and makes it a reality, overturning a change a maintainer made"?

Yeah that's a pretty good example of #coderbus being a monolithic cabal.

Post by **oranges** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:05 pm #165622

CPTANT wrote:
Hornygranny wrote:have you joined that irc channel ever?
Why is irc so preferred to communicate, while it is a medium that makes browsing history or categorizing topics horrible?

because that's literally how every coder communicates with each other on a day to day basis

Incoming · Post by **Incoming** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:12 pm #165625

Coderbus is just a room where you can talk about SS13 programming/game theory with other people who do that. There's no opinion at all that is common to everyone who visits coderbus because holy crap it's just a chatroom, not a political party.

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:29 pm #165632

To be fair, the difference between a chatroom and a political party is not too big of a gulf.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:36 pm #165639

CPTANT wrote:
Hornygranny wrote:have you joined that irc channel ever?
Why is irc so preferred to communicate, while it is a medium that makes browsing history or categorizing topics horrible?

First you say CLIs are bad and now you say irc is bad.

Are you some iphone generation kid.

CPTANT · Post by **CPTANT** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:47 pm #165649

Scott wrote:
CPTANT wrote:
Hornygranny wrote:have you joined that irc channel ever?
Why is irc so preferred to communicate, while it is a medium that makes browsing history or categorizing topics horrible?
First you say CLIs are bad and now you say irc is bad.

Are you some iphone generation kid.

Fuck no, the only reason I have a smartphone is because I could get it for free.

duncathan · Post by **duncathan** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:55 pm #165678

Anonmare wrote:To be fair, the difference between a chatroom and a political party is not too big of a gulf.

oh god dude
we can't even make up our minds about whether to have a space between if and the parentheses (

Code: Select all

if()

vs

Code: Select all

if ()

)
that shit doesn't even matter and we spend hours arguing about it and grudge-PRing (though maybe that's just mso and I)
imagine how indecisive we are about shit that actually DOES matter

Post by **lumipharon** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:10 am #165685

This is such an old meme of semantics.

People make generalising statements about literally everything, but most people with some modicum of sense do in fact, realise that they are not referring to literally every individual in that group.

If I say 'the 3rd years are an intelligetn bunch', this is still a valid thing to say despite the fact old johnny the face fucker in the back of the classroom might be borderline brain dead, because it's a generalisation.

So when people go 'fuck dem coderbus, they're ruining the game', then I think it's fairly safe to say that they don't think literally every coder is part of the illuminati plottin how to better ruin the game, merely multiple prominant people in that group are doing shit that, in their opinion, is bad for the game.

This is much easier to say, and much easier for non retards to understand then saying 'goof made X, Y and Z bad changes, other coder guy 1 made Q, W and E bad changes, coder guy 2 made R, T and u bad changes etc etc etc.

All that happens when people like goof and HG made shit posting thread like this, or otherwise laugh in the face of people that are genuinely trying to keep a game that they enjoy playing fun and interesting, is fuck people off massively, which is exactly the sort of shit that paprika did.

Yes people can be shitty, wrong, dumb or all of the above, but being a meme spouting shitposter about it isn't any better.

Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:20 am

holy fuck why is this a forum thread lmao

>be me, found a spaceman game that's kinda cool
>play it for a long time and i'm a big fan
>one day decide to see if i can help contribute to it since it's an open source project
>follow a step by step guide that's literally on the wiki
>open a PR
>SUDDENLY A HOODED MAN APPEARS IN THE CORNER OF MY ROOM
>BEFORE I CAN REACT HE TACKLES ME TO THE GROUND
>WRAPS HIS CLOAK AROUND ME
>suddenly absorbed by the mysterious figure
>tfw you get enveloped by the coderbus entity
>tfw you're no longer an individual person

Post by **NikNakFlak** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:46 am #165699

Goofball just wants to start drama and is, in fact, stupid.

newfren · Post by **newfren** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:18 am #165781

Accurate depiction of coderbus wearing his favourite T-shirt:

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:19 am #165783

Coders start working on the Code Golem so I can shove 5 ghosts in there voltron-style that fight over where to go and what to do.

Post by **Archie700** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:20 am #165784

Is this just a shitpost thread

Post by **oranges** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:43 am #165789

duncathan wrote:
Anonmare wrote:To be fair, the difference between a chatroom and a political party is not too big of a gulf.
oh god dude
we can't even make up our minds about whether to have a space between if and the parentheses (
Code: Select all
if()
vs
Code: Select all
if ()
)
that shit doesn't even matter and we spend hours arguing about it and grudge-PRing (though maybe that's just mso and I)
imagine how indecisive we are about shit that actually DOES matter

What the fuck, if anyone does that second form I'll straight up kill you.

Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:52 am

>using spaces between if and ()
>using spaces ever aside from messages viewed in game and else ifs
Kill me now fam

duncathan · Post by **duncathan** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:35 am #165799

mso was opening grudge prs about it when i tried to make him change his shit
what was i supposed to do
it's not like we can ban him

Post by **oranges** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:57 am #165801

well not until we get those promised organisational tools

in the year 2024

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:50 am #165814

duncathan wrote:
Anonmare wrote:To be fair, the difference between a chatroom and a political party is not too big of a gulf.
oh god dude
we can't even make up our minds about whether to have a space between if and the parentheses (
Code: Select all
if()
vs
Code: Select all
if ()
)
that shit doesn't even matter and we spend hours arguing about it and grudge-PRing (though maybe that's just mso and I)
imagine how indecisive we are about shit that actually DOES matter

What?
Why would you put whitespace between the command and its parameters? Thats retarded.

Kelenius · Post by **Kelenius** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:16 pm #165819

duncathan wrote:we can't even make up our minds about whether to have a space between if and the parentheses (
Code: Select all
if()
vs
Code: Select all
if ()
)
that shit doesn't even matter and we spend hours arguing about it and grudge-PRing (though maybe that's just mso and I)
imagine how indecisive we are about shit that actually DOES matter

duncathan wrote:that shit doesn't even matter and we spend hours arguing about it

oranges wrote:What the fuck, if anyone does that second form I'll straight up kill you.

PKPenguin321 wrote:>using spaces between if and ()
>using spaces ever aside from messages viewed in game and else ifs
Kill me now fam

Malkevin wrote:What?
Why would you put whitespace between the command and its parameters? Thats retarded.

I'M SENSING A PATTERN HERE.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:24 pm #165824

Mso can we get a new dank filter that changes "coderbus" to "that wide open IRC chat room"? I really think it might help people get the picture

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:27 pm #165846

Kelenius wrote:
duncathan wrote:we can't even make up our minds about whether to have a space between if and the parentheses (
Code: Select all
if()
vs
Code: Select all
if ()
)
that shit doesn't even matter and we spend hours arguing about it and grudge-PRing (though maybe that's just mso and I)
imagine how indecisive we are about shit that actually DOES matter
duncathan wrote:that shit doesn't even matter and we spend hours arguing about it

oranges wrote:What the fuck, if anyone does that second form I'll straight up kill you.

PKPenguin321 wrote:>using spaces between if and ()
>using spaces ever aside from messages viewed in game and else ifs
Kill me now fam

Malkevin wrote:What?
Why would you put whitespace between the command and its parameters? Thats retarded.
I'M SENSING A PATTERN HERE.

Yeah... ones the correct way that near everyone does and the other is the idiot way.

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:59 pm #165848

smh.

the problem has never been how difficult it is to find the IRC. The problem has always been that there is already established cliques with their own memes or whatever you shitters like to dwell in and it's difficult to properly establish yourself unless you break through a wall, which alright, some people have done but most just can't be bothered.

Coderbus is literally a paradigm to server 2 in it's heyday. Was I guilty of spouting that any new player were allowed to join and it was easy to integrate themselves into the server? Yeah. Was I wrong in assuming it was that easy? Yeah.

Not-Dorsidarf · Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:05 pm

Oldman Robustin broke through the wall. He did something known in our elite fortress of illuminati as "Actually coding".

Post by **NikNakFlak** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:16 pm #165850

I dunno about that tbh

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:18 pm #165851

Cool and I literally said that some people can do it.

Majority of people don't or can't be arsed to, which they're welcome to do. It's just like this illusion you all have that it's an open club and everyone can join freely is wrong, because that's not what it is, and it never will be. It's a community in a community and that in itself means it's caustic to anyone who is new.

Cheridan · Post by **Cheridan** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:25 pm #165853

Wyzack wrote:Coderbus is actually a kabal of hooded reptilians who work in tandem with a variety of spoof accounts in order to enforce the social justice warrior agenda and remove freedom from our spacemangame. This was confirmed to me by several top permabanned informants, god bless

DELETE THIS

MODS

onleavedontatme · Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:30 pm

lumipharon wrote:This is such an old meme of semantics.

It's still fucking aggravating when people demand I defend and explain something goof/HG/whoever did that I had no part in and never agreed with in the first place.

duncathan · Post by **duncathan** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:54 pm #165861

The only thing you gotta do to be accepted around here is contribute. Code, sprites, sounds... I won't speak for anyone, but I can tell you that the moment someone comes into #coderbus asking for help with something, I like them. I will actively put in the effort to help someone make the change they want to make. Just ask Bawhoppen, who's been learning to code recently.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:05 pm #165862

I coded, coderbus never listened to me.

onleavedontatme · Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:20 pm

Malkevin wrote:coderbus never listened to me.

Find that hard to believe since you have 45 merged PRs.

iamgoofball · Post by **iamgoofball** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:55 pm #165875

yeah, like, I hated bawhoppen because all he did was rant about stupid shit and never made any changes

then he took initiative and started making PRs

now he gets ALL the #coderbus babes AND hes my waifu IRL

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 8:28 pm #165880

Kor wrote:
Malkevin wrote:coderbus never listened to me.
Find that hard to believe since you have 45 merged PRs.

Getting code merged != being listened too

Post by **lumipharon** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:01 pm #165886

Kor wrote:
lumipharon wrote:This is such an old meme of semantics.

It's still fucking aggravating when people demand I defend and explain something goof/HG/whoever did that I had no part in and never agreed with in the first place.

As I said, people will always be dumb/retarded, doesn't justify shitposting/being a shithead like in the OP or 90% of how pap ever behaved.

onleavedontatme · Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:12 pm

Malkevin wrote:
Kor wrote:
Malkevin wrote:coderbus never listened to me.
Find that hard to believe since you have 45 merged PRs.
Getting code merged != being listened too

That is pretty much the highest form of "listened to" there is in coderbus. You convinced others your ideas were good. They listened and made them permanent changes to the game.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:44 pm #165899

With the kind of shit that gets waved through these days it's pretty damn unlikely you "convinced" anyone. You just didn't trigger anyone.

Post by **oranges** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:52 pm #165901

I like watching oldman code

it reminds me of when I first started.

ColonicAcid · Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:21 pm

what? a fetus?

Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:33 am

btw to anybody reading this thread that is about to post "b-but muh irc i cant into that," i was like you once too
just click this magic link and you're in the irc tadaaa

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:53 am #165991

a monolithic enemy is easier to hate

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:21 am #165995

Kor wrote:
Malkevin wrote:
Kor wrote:
Malkevin wrote:coderbus never listened to me.
Find that hard to believe since you have 45 merged PRs.
Getting code merged != being listened too
That is pretty much the highest form of "listened to" there is in coderbus. You convinced others your ideas were good. They listened and made them permanent changes to the game.

Sure... after yelling at Giacom lots because he never bothered reading the feedback threads, which usually showed lots of community support for my proposed changes, I'd made before trying to put the code up for PR.

Theres also plenty of feedback threads I'd made on stuff that had been merged, again usually a lot of players agreed with my Point of View but we'd usually get ignored.

I said Sadbutt's cult would be awful in the PR on github, no one listened to me, and it was.

And lets not forget there was a bug that allowed pAIs to push people in disposals, Aran put up a fix that removed the ability to dunk from mobs other than humans and monkeys - as a side effect this removed the 'feature' from borgs, I put up an alternative fix that prevent pAIs and only pAIs from dunking people - Aran's got chosen instead of mine despite mine having almost unanimous player support.

onleavedontatme · Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:48 pm

Malkevin wrote: I said Sadbutt's cult would be awful in the PR on github, no one listened to me, and it was.

They listened to Sabbat in that case. And unless I missed a particularly wild chapter of /tg/ history, I don't think sabbat can be considered a #coderbus insider.

Once again, when players say "coderbus needs to listen to players" they often actually mean "coderbus needs to listen to me all the time over other people, because I am always right."

As to personal issues with Giacom and Aran, neither of them are active in #coderbus anymore.