Left 4 Dead Warhammer Fantasy Edition (Vermintide)

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:04 am #134197

Bottom post of the previous page:

Steam fucked up, it forgot it had it installed
Somehow
Trying to reinstal should lead to steam going "Huh, I have this already"

Also, anyone up for a bit of this? New patch soon but that's going to be a while

Takeguru · Post by **Takeguru** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:18 am #134199

I'm game whenever, but generally like, 9PM+ PST
I'm shit and have bad gear for now, so I'm only doing hard for the time being

Steam thing:http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198013255659/

Oh, and the freeDLC is slated for the 3rd, I believe.

capi duffman · Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:35 am

>Finally this fucking shitty internet has been fixed!
>Now I'll be able to give the emperor's mercy to all those rats without disconnects every so often.
>Welp, looks like everyone wanna be Witch Hunter or the filthy elf, time to be a DWARF.
>Holy shit, did I just kill more than half of one patrol by myself?
>Fucking pansies are trying to take down one of them between the three of them, meanwhile I'm putting my axe where it belongs, inside some innards, somehow decapitating tons of rats while being the midget of the team.
>An ogre rat? Let's tank that motherfucker.
>Is EVERYONE down in the final part? Pansies, that's what they are, chug down an strength potion, slash away and save that pointy eared condom barely an instant before she dies.

Holy shit, I'm sold, I'm going dorf all the way, who cares about bullets when all about you is badass and the rats cannot do anything to stop you?
That being said, I'm incredibly rusty, I used to be able to kill a smoker before it was able to stun me with it's grab (I get grabbed, turned around, blast the thing) or avoid getting normal hits from the mob in L4D2, now I gotta time my attacks correctly, because the dwarf is quite slow, and getting mobbed isn't fun.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:53 am #137241

I like witch hunter most but the dwarf is definitely better

DrPillzRedux · Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:05 am

I actually got around to finishing all maps on cata last week. Now when I host all the filthy elves and dorfs can see I'm a real lad. I already have good exotics for every character so I'm just waiting for the DLC. I'll be able to make all my legendary weapons pretty much right away.

Also my new soundcard really brought this game to life. Surround sound speakers work way better with this now and even the music utilizes it to further spook you.

Takeguru · Post by **Takeguru** » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:02 am #137289

I haven't been playing much.

I'm still trying to get everything done on hard, and all my blues are elfshit because RNG has a way of shitting on me.

Also, pubs can't seem to handle well defense on hard.

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:14 am #137300

Pubs can't handle shit.

I've been playing fallout 4, Undertale, and Cataclysm lately, but I still have room in my heart for this in the near future.

DrPillzRedux · Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:46 pm

I actually did half my cata maps with 2 pubs. If you find people who barely get hit in hard you can do NM then cata. It's just about not taking damage.

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:21 pm #137411

DrPillzRedux wrote:I actually did half my cata maps with 2 pubs. If you find people who barely get hit in hard you can do NM then cata. It's just about not taking damage.

Finding those people is hard af

Effective coordination is easier to achieve for most people than never getting hit, and will still see you through Cataclysm even if your moment-to-moment combat is less than perfect. (Obviously, you still have to be competent, but coordination reduces the need for consistently perfect combat.)

DrPillzRedux · Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:29 pm

I should probably make a tactic guide or something but it really comes down to very simple things.

Diamond formation with people watching their sides

Gathering in an area that forces the rats into a funnel like a doorway

Knowing how to dodge ogre stomp and block the swing

Abusing your pushes while going through your combo and dodging backwards to get out of being surrounded

Watching one anothers backs by pushing rats

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:56 pm #137415

To add to that:

Have a designated sniper to drop specials after they get pinged (Any of the characters can actually do this- Waywatcher with a longbow and good aim/Trueflight bow, WH with a crossbow, Dwarf with a handgun, soldier with a harquebuss, BW with a Bolt staff. Dwarf and Soldier are the best at it and sacrifice the least to be good at it, though.)

Don't compete for special kills, let the person who can handle it best (both in terms of gear and current positioning) deal with it (Far too often in pubs I see people break off from the group to try and get DEM SPESHUL KILLZ).

Coordinate your group's trinkets with your behavior- if one person has a pickled fish and the Dove of Shallya, let them pick up medical kits and use them on other people, give potions to people with global potion trinkets, etc, etc.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:50 pm #137422

I could only barely play this because my laptop just couldn't handle it

But new PC soon so I might play

Update soon too

DrPillzRedux · Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:07 pm

This game is far more CPU heavy than GPU. Devs goofed and designed combat so that only 5 rats can be attacking you at a single time, so the game is constantly checking to see which rats are.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:38 pm #137452

Just got Mordheim city of the damed, so it is probably gonna be my warham fantasy fix for a time

DrPillzRedux · Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:10 am

Patch notes are out. Update soon.

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Feature Changes
– Added Shrine of Solace to Red Moon Inn (Unlocks at level 5)
– Added Page 1 of 3 to Shrine of Solace: PRAY – Spend Tokens to acquire loot (More coming soon!)
– Added New Weapon Tier: Veteran – Each Veteran weapon is unique and can only be obtained once. Their traits can only roll perfectly.
– Added 40 Veteran Weapons

– Forge 2.0
Alongside the new shrine, our beloved Forge is also receiving a number of changes in 1.1:
‣ Tokens can now be spent in place of items whilst Fusing an item
‣ Exotic weapons can now be salvaged
‣ Trinkets can now be salvaged
‣ Hats can now be salvaged

– Reworked Tokens
Tokens have been significantly reworked in 1.1 and will now be far more valuable than before.
‣ Increased amount of tokens received for salvaging items
‣ Increased trait upgrade costs
‣ Tokens are now rewarded upon mission defeat if the party progressed sufficiently
‣ Tokens can now be used to Pray for items in the Shrine of Sigmar and replace items whilst Fusing in the Forge

capi duffman · Sun Dec 06, 2015 8:46 pm

So I completed the campaign, and decided to go hard, because I already felt I was good enough with the dorf. Things were mostly lucky the first session, with dudes who knew how to block and dodge, and actually avoided stormvermin patrols.

In my second session there was this lv6 elf, though.
I think it was a buddy of the host, because the elf was always silent, always hogging the potions (and was like the bots, drinking the moment she hit 50% health) always getting mobbed and so on, but the host never told her to get her shit together. There are ok players, there are bad players, and then, there are players who tackle hard in a game that can win against you in normal, without even knowing the basics of a game like this (Come on, I'm sure there are a lot fo L4D vets in here, who know how to stay together, or when is a good moment to heal.)
I had my doubts about grabbing the grimoires, I was right, but then I only got a green for my problems.

DrPillzRedux · Sun Dec 06, 2015 8:59 pm

Play some cata and hard becomes the new normal, normal becomes easy, and easy becomes how the fucm did you die on this.

capi duffman · Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:15 pm

DrPillzRedux wrote:Play some cata and hard becomes the new normal, normal becomes easy, and easy becomes how the fucm did you die on this.

gimme time to grab some blues at least, seriously I use a green warhammer, a green gun, and my trinkets suck

DrPillzRedux · Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:16 pm

You can do nightmare with greens as I've learned. Just need to git gud at block dodge spam.

capi duffman · Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:51 pm

DrPillzRedux wrote:You can do nightmare with greens as I've learned. Just need to git gud at block dodge spam.

That's what I'm doing right now, getting good at blocking the mobs, and trying to do an ogre without getting hit. The stormvermin where already easy with the warhammer (the normal attack stuns them, so they simply cannot stop me) and the other specials are more of a matter of having a good team with you, and aiming fast for a killing headshot.

Geez, two cursed die, three tomes, two grimoires, hard mode, a freaking green, and for the WH

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:10 pm #138868

Dorf with Axe + Shield rules this game.
Stamina for days. Chopping down rats like Paul Bunyan.

I bought enough computer upgrades that I'm basically building a whole new computa and I'll be back on soon.

capi duffman · Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:10 am

I got these blue dual guns for the dorf, they heat up, anyone used them before? I'd rather keep using the handgun, since I only use ranged to snipe stormvermin and specials, but it may be useful against ogres or something.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:18 am #139009

I can't imagine a better ranged weapon for the DORF than the handgun, categorically.

I can imagine a handgun that has better stats but if you're using the axe and shield something that does a fuckton of damage very precisely to a single target at range is exactly what he needs to balance that equation.

DrPillzRedux · Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:42 am

Dorf should only use drakes. Have the guy playing soldier use his handgun instead.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:44 am #139035

How good is the Empire Soldier anyways, I've been liking how he plays and I want to know if he's good to main with.

DrPillzRedux · Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:47 am

He's in pretty much every cata group. Mace and shield or 2 handed hammer are best.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:49 am #139039

Doesn't the warhammer permastun everything? I've mostly been rolling the mace + shield for that phat shield combo, but from what I've seen when not playing him he can stun specials with it.

DrPillzRedux · Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:52 am

You should only use charged attacks with 2handers and range on all specials. I've barely ever seen anyone melee specials besides maybe runners.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:54 am #139041

Yeah we were playing on hard and our soldier was going absolutely ham on a bunch of stormvermin with a warhammer and stunning them. He won after we got there and started helping him out.

capi duffman · Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:58 am

Huh, that's how I play dorf, with a handgun for sniping, and a warhammer for fun slaughter.
The issue with the axe and shield is that I found myself not killing enough or fast enough against both slaves and stormvermin, and sometimes, they key with blackrats is to stun them before they get to kill the elf.

DrPillzRedux · Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:50 pm

If you take a shield up you accept that your whole existence is CC, not killing. Do 2 strikes then a charge attack. Although the first point applies to everyone. You're not supposed to try and get the highest killcount, you're supposed to watch eachothers backs by pushing enemies flanking others.

capi duffman · Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:58 pm

DrPillzRedux wrote:If you take a shield up you accept that your whole existence is CC, not killing. Do 2 strikes then a charge attack. Although the first point applies to everyone. You're not supposed to try and get the highest killcount, you're supposed to watch eachothers backs by pushing enemies flanking others.

Yeah, well, the moment I switched from shield to warhammer, suddenly I found myself beating missions. I only play with pubs, and so I depend a lot on someone of the team being good, or me doing great to compensate.
Also, my warhammer has 4 points of stamina, so I actually do push the enemy around a lot, while I'm not flaying like crazy to keep the rats away from the witch.

EndgamerAzari · Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:01 pm

My primary loadout is greatsword and harquebus for the soldier. The hammer's a bit more powerful, sure, but it's shit at crowd control and the gun drops most specials in one good headshot. The name of the game is wade in 'n' bladin'.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:44 pm #139240

I keep trying to play this but I'm forever getting dumped back to the main menu or the level restarts.
What gives?

capi duffman · Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:47 am

Malkevin wrote:I keep trying to play this but I'm forever getting dumped back to the main menu or the level restarts.
What gives?

If the host disconnects or you lose connection, you're boned, simple as that.

I dislike a lot that part of the game, not having any kind of servers, and depending on good hosts all the time.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:05 pm #139306

What sucks the most, last I checked

If the host leaves, someone else gets the host. So everyone gets to load and connect to them
Then they leave, and it goes to the third person. Who also leaves. So now you've had 4 loading screens, and you ended up right back in the tavern

DrPillzRedux · Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:02 am

I always host so I never have to deal with that or lag.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:04 am #139806

Apparently this has hackers now who are noclipping everywhere and instakilling all the rats ever

I witnessed a dwarf who appeared to have infinite ammo, his upper body twitching and flailing in random directions at an insanely fast rate. Aimbot, most likely.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:09 am #139807

So that's the "vermin" in Vermintide, huh?

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:10 am #139809

They're hacking in PvE so they're probably worse

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:32 pm #139855

I don't see the point in doing that

Either way, new computer works, poke me sometime and we can wreck some rats
Already have an orange crossbow for the dwarf