MetaStation Thread (v41J 11/05/2015)

Shadowlight213 · Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:07 am

Bottom post of the previous page:

The various randomized posters seem to add their title and description to the base rather than replace it.
That's a poster - Obey- Free Drone.
A large piece of space-resistant printed paper. A poster instructing the viewer to obey authority. This poster commemorates the bravery of the rogue drone banned by CentComm.

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:31 am #125362

You may want to consider removing the auto rifles from the armoury.

Or keep them, you already did what I wanted to do and keep the rifles but remove the excess magazines. If only that update was on the server more than twenty four hours.

onleavedontatme · Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:55 am

Meta didn't have any extra magazines when I played earlier.

DeutscherMajor · Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:09 pm

What i have noticed is, theres now an empty maintenence room in south eastern escape that links with the xenobio windows. What is this room for and why is it so weird?

Luke Cox · Post by **Luke Cox** » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:35 am #127314

The RD got his own hardsuit on Box recently. Any chance that it will get added to meta?

Edit: Just realized that it's at the toxins testing launch area. I'd move it to the RD's office, so that it's more in line with the other heads who have hardsuits in their offices.

Takeguru · Post by **Takeguru** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:58 am #130145

Gang won by placing the dom on the AI Sat exterior because the place was called "Hallway"

Fix that shit

metacide · Post by **metacide** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:46 pm #130192

Takeguru wrote:Gang won by placing the dom on the AI Sat exterior because the place was called "Hallway"

Fix that shit

Looks like a code issue, more info here.

Think I'll remove autorifles with the next update though, would welcome any thoughts on that.

TheNightingale · Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:48 pm

The autorifles are why the Meta armoury is better than the Box armoury. Maybe remove two and add some buckshot boxes in the ammunition locker?

CPTANT · Post by **CPTANT** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:49 pm #130194

I just noticed that the AI foyer turret control console, does in fact not control the turrets in the AI foyer.

metacide · Post by **metacide** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:59 pm #130226

CPTANT wrote:I just noticed that the AI foyer turret control console, does in fact not control the turrets in the AI foyer.

This had only started recently, not sure why exactly. Will look into it.

Gun Hog · Post by **Gun Hog** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:56 pm #130240

Keep at least one Steelrifle I guess. Metastation is more generous and luxurious than Box, something that I love about it. It should only mirror Box on things that are expected or required. (Such as the Captain having his laser, the HoP having Ian, or there being a medbay on the station)

invisty · Post by **invisty** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:30 pm #130246

It's probably just me but I find the visual "clutter" on MetaStation a bit much. The copious amount of hazard markings in every corner of the map and posters on the walls being culprits. There's nothing explicitly bad about it - it just makes the cognitive aspect of the game more taxing.

metacide · Post by **metacide** » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:30 pm #130446

CPTANT wrote:I just noticed that the AI foyer turret control console, does in fact not control the turrets in the AI foyer.

Looks like Jordie worked out what went wrong and has fixed it.

More detail here.

invisty wrote:It's probably just me but I find the visual "clutter" on MetaStation a bit much. The copious amount of hazard markings in every corner of the map and posters on the walls being culprits. There's nothing explicitly bad about it - it just makes the cognitive aspect of the game more taxing.

I guess I'm used to how much I've added compared to box. I feel box is really empty myself, guess it's all relative to your frame of reference. When I see densely packed and busy areas on other codebases I feel much as you describe.

Super Aggro Crag · Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:22 pm

i like your map metacide.

metacide · Post by **metacide** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:42 pm #131045

Thanks, good to hear.

Just submitted a small update:

MetaStation v41I (01/11/2015):

[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/858120/Static/SS13/MetaStation/15-11-01%2016-19%20MSv41I%20Full%20-%20800.png[/img]
(Image of the station, click for full-size)

Added lethal shotgun ammo locker and rubber buckshot boxes to the armory
Added independent area designation to armory (formerly part of brig control)
Added more flashes to the AI chamber to give AIs more delaying power against borg attacks
Added camera monitor to AI chamber foyer letting borgs see in to open the blast door
Added windows to the mailroom conveyor to stop mail falling off it
Added a few posters to non-command non-security areas of the station
Added more twists and turns to some of the long, straight paths in maintenance
Added winter boots to various lockers in the locker room
Gave roboticists access to the R&D lab
Moved AI holopads off vents on the MiniSat walkway
Remove most autorifles - one remains in the warden's locker.
Removed posters from command/security areas
Removed random grille spawns blocking areas of maintenance
Removed duplicate intercom in the teleporter room
Renamed Secure Lab to Xenobiology again for slime management system

Will also add Kor's slime management console system once this goes through.

Duncdar · Post by **Duncdar** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:15 pm #131054

comfydorms when?
No other part of the station has been completely gutted and redesigned as the crew quarter has, and I miss the view of space we had.

Spoiler:

Post by **MMMiracles** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:43 pm #140195

There's a set of shutters with the AI-Core door that can be shut from the inside to prevent intruders. I get why this is a thing but all it really does is exist to let the AI essentially bolt+depower the door without the disadvantage of losing environment power. This fucks over syndiborgs really bad, to the point where its considered a bannable offense if AIs do this roundstart.

Its probably a good idea to remove the shutters until shit is sorted out with the syndiborg meta stats or something.

TheNightingale · Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:54 pm

Can't they just crowbar it open?

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:57 pm #140204

Syndi borgs don't have crowbars

Post by **MMMiracles** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:13 am #140205

They do, but shutters can only be crowbarred if its depowered, same with blast doors.

So, no, they still can't get in.

ChangelingRain · Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:35 am

MMMiracles wrote:They do, but shutters can only be crowbarred if its depowered, same with blast doors.

So, no, they still can't get in.

They actually can, as the shutter isn't on the core APC, it's on the APC in the foyer with turrets.

lzimann · Post by **lzimann** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:43 pm #147906

Toxins/toxin storages has way too many empty canisters, don't really need that much, would be better to add one more o2 canister aswell!

TheWiznard · Post by **TheWiznard** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:04 am #148244

You should add some of these so called canvas items to art storage or something, they seem really cool from what I can tell and might be a cool little thing you can add since from what I can see is a pretty solid map so far.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:06 am #148245

That's a great idea actually. Can you also add an airlock painter in there if you get around to it?

Also there seems to be way too many plasma canisters in toxins storage than there should be. I've been in numerous blob rounds where they got burst open and a ridiculous amount of plasma locked the crew out of fighting the blob for 10+ minutes.

metacide · Post by **metacide** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:54 pm #148431

I checked box and both stations have 4 toxins canisters, seems normal. But sure, I'll replace one of the empty canisters with an O2 one to match the 4 toxins canisters.

Should be an airlock painter in art storage already, but I'll definitely add some painting/canvas stuff.

Actionb · Post by **Actionb** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:02 pm #149405

There's no spare circuit imprinter board in tech storage.
Easy game for a smart blob.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:53 am #149803

The back of the bar is missing a stack of metal and glass to build rage cages with

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:53 am #153106

bumping this because it'd be really nice to have those materials for rage cages

Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:34 am

Zilenan91 wrote:bumping this because it'd be really nice to have those materials for rage cages

dont forget the wire for the rare disco bar

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:35 am #153151

There's already wire in the locker but there's not enough.

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:07 pm #154830

Well the barkeep is literally 15 paces away from art storage with like 8 stacks of wire but alright

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:41 pm #154969

Minor bug with the tesla, the shocks are rebounding into maintenance and breaking those airlocks/shockign anyone in that area. Putting a few grounding rods on the opposite sides of the current two ought to fix it, so it's a simple fix. In theory.

Yakumo_Chen · Post by **Yakumo_Chen** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:07 am #155627

Exosuit fab board is missing in tech storage.

Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:48 pm

Atmos has a red phone on a desk that can't be reached due to computer consoles reeeeeee
EDIT: Shift the alert consoles one tile west and replace that newly empty space with a table reeeeeeeeee

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:38 am #157255

The HoP's ID swiper can't be reached from the ground. You have to climb the table.

Gun Hog · Post by **Gun Hog** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:45 pm #157392

Zilenan91 wrote:The HoP's ID swiper can't be reached from the ground. You have to climb the table.

It must have been designed for Mekhi as HoP!

Thundercoot · Post by **Thundercoot** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:31 pm #165575

The stacks of glass in Engineering each have only 12 sheets instead of 50.

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:43 pm #166672

I've found deleting the safety signs around the singulo/tesla area fixes it destroying the airlocks and cameras

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Fri May 06, 2016 6:56 am #174314

Let's see, now.

Atmospherics aft-starboard section has a single missing glass window, right there in the corner by the table with the paper bin on it.
Also, the mix tank's controls are fucked: gas input/output settings don't always work (make that a never for output, actually.)

Derpu · Post by **Derpu** » Fri May 06, 2016 9:46 am #174343

DemonFiren wrote: Also, the mix tank's controls are fucked: gas input/output settings don't always work (make that a never for output, actually.)

I've only had that happen once. And it was when you messed with it.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Fri May 06, 2016 11:00 am #174356

Derpu wrote:
DemonFiren wrote: Also, the mix tank's controls are fucked: gas input/output settings don't always work (make that a never for output, actually.)
I've only had that happen once. And it was when you messed with it.

Curiously enough this shit never worked for me.
Evidently the map developer has something against me.
HELP I AM BEING METAGRUDGED

metacide · Post by **metacide** » Thu May 12, 2016 7:19 am #175917

Submitted a minor update on GitHub, if it interests anyone

MetaStation v41J (11/05/2016):

[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/858120/Static/SS13/MetaStation/16-05-13%20MSv41J%20Full%20-%20800.png[/img]
(Image of the station, click here for full-size)

MetaStation v41J Changelog:

Added extra grounding rods to the engine area to stop the tesla destroying some cameras. The main sign-conduction issue had already been fixed.
Added missing circuit boards to tech storage to match current box boards - exosuit fabricator, circuit imprinter, teleporter, and AI integrity restorer boards.
Added some glass, metal, and more wire to the bar backroom closet to allow for easier remodelling.
Added a selection of blank canvas to art storage and some easels to maint.
Added cameras to each xenobiology containment pen so the slime computers don't bug out so often.
Added missing indoor window pane in atmos by one of the computers.
Added a custom name to the armory securitron, which now also starts active and will by default detain unknowns and those holding guns without clearance.
Added formal uniform crate to the armory anteroom.
Adjusted layout of the aft arm of the engine area, making it a separate maint tunnel which is part of the engineering escape pod area.
Adjusted positions of some machines in the cargo office and QM office so the cargo APC and other items can be accessed properly again.
Adjusted interrogation access - now anyone with brig access can get in, such as the lawyer.
Anchored the O2 lockers in the engine room airlocks to stop them being dragged out by spacewind every time the airlocks are used.
Fixed glass sheet stacks in engineering having 12 sheets not 50.
Fixed the mutli-belt typo.
Fixed maint autodrobe incorrectly requiring theatre access.
Fixed some of the emergency shuttle exit airlocks requiring certain access levels.
Moved the portable flashes out into the armory anteroom, adding racks to where they were, which hold extra flashes, tear gas grenades, emergency doughnuts, and a rack of barrier grenades.
Moved HoP keycard authentication device so it can be reached without having to clamber on a table.
Replaced an empty canister in toxins with a fourth O2 canister.
Replaced some blood and gibs present on roundstart with their correct 'old' variants.
The cloning APC now starts unlocked.
Removed version suffix on filename in keeping with other maps.

Bolien · Post by **Bolien** » Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:52 am #183686

I feel like toxins, or at least science somewhere needs a heater.
If I want a heater I have to take apart the cooler and switch it, which I feel like is an unnecessary pain.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Sat Jun 04, 2016 1:09 pm #183731

I have no strong feelings one way or the other, but why was the library made into a windowless fortress with only one door? I feel like it isolates an already sidelined job and makes people less likely to visit than before

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:46 am #183910

I think the AI satellite isn't actually connected to the main powernet properly. Mind checking the wire near the external area of the satellite, specifically near the APC?

Sidon · Post by **Sidon** » Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:55 am #184474

Meta add these stools to the bar & kitchen portion instead of the current ones, also the maint bar as well:

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/18263

metacide · Post by **metacide** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:14 pm #185898

I think you can make any heater a freezer or vice versa by screwdrivering it open and wrenching it, or something like that.

Regarding the station and MiniSat having separate powernets, it's intentional - but you can easily connect the two, if you want to powersink the lot or recharge the MiniSat or whatever. MiniSat has independent power that should last hours and hours, though.

The new bar stools were kindly recently added by Xhuis.

As for the library being more secluded, it was suggested and I thought I'd give it a go. The only people who really noticed though were those who disliked it, so I'll change it back when I next have the time.

Sidon · Post by **Sidon** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:39 pm #185993

I like the secluded library

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:01 am #186129

On the library: keep both entrances, but lose the windows.

metacide · Post by **metacide** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:03 pm #189740

Will look into changing a few MetaStation things in due course. In the meantime looking at a Mini-Station sort of thing, designed for ~20 pop : Captain, Lieutenant, 3xSec, 3xSci, 3xMed, 3xEng, 3xCargo, 3xCiv. If anyone has any thoughts on how best to do this, do fire away.

If anyone's interested, this is what I have so far (not much, just bridge+sec):

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:07 pm #189742

Looks good so far. With Birdboat seemingly being voted off the island by casuals we need a new nice lowpop map