Drama is at a dangerous low

[DaemonBomb]

Bottom post of the previous page:

We should debate silicone policy.


Or naming policy.

[tuypo1]

We should debate silicone policy.

sillicons should have near total discretion in deciding what falls under law 1 with regards to ignoring orders (the main one being allowing self harm but theres a few others)

i really only say this because i hate the idea that silicons should pretend they dont know somebody is up to no good so maybe a better policy would be giving the ai more discretion in who is harmfull.

And of course by that i mostly mean theres no good reason to enter the upload.

I cant think of anything drama inducing to say about names.

[LiamLime]

The "Unban ERP" thread is dying down ;_; nooo

[asskek]

ihm *shniff* permahbanned *sft* *snort* *shniff*
absholute ideology

[DaemonBomb]

I cant think of anything drama inducing to say about names.

You play as "Ra Dom Name", right? What the fuck kinda last name is "Name"? It breaks my emulsion, ban he for ruining my photographs.

[imblyings]

Ra(Space Egyptian mother, Ra reference to ancient Terran mythological figure), Dom(Short for Dominick, childhood nickname, refer to pg.1539 of snowflake biography) Name(Space Moonpeople father, surname is Romanized form of なめ TIL's note: 'Hiragana for "Name"')

clearly Ra Dom Name is a very legit name

[tuypo1]

I cant think of anything drama inducing to say about names.

You play as "Ra Dom Name", right? What the fuck kinda last name is "Name"? It breaks my emulsion, ban he for ruining my photographs.

i actualy only intended to use the name for one round i keep forgeting to to set it back.

[Aloraydrel]

Hi!

[peoplearestrange]

Hi!

What do you think you are? Drama?
Pah,

You'll never be Oldman/Saeg tier.

[Gun Hog]

I have all the drama you need right here: https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-statio ... -146898426

ARANCLANOS VS CHERIDAN! Two senior maintainers, with Cheridan being the Repo owner. Who KNOWS how this will go down!?

UPDATE: Aranclanos closed the PR, but Miauw re-opened and merged it anyway!

[Aloraydrel]

Hi!

What do you think you are? Drama?
Pah,

You'll never be Oldman/Saeg tier.

Leaving my name here so I can show my kids this far into the future

[fleure]

Hi!

What do you think you are? Drama?
Pah,

You'll never be Oldman/Saeg tier.

Feedback forum renamed to "Oldman's Soapbox" when?

[Xhagi]

I have all the drama you need right here: https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-statio ... -146898426

ARANCLANOS VS CHERIDAN! Two senior maintainers, with Cheridan being the Repo owner. Who KNOWS how this will go down!?

UPDATE: Aranclanos closed the PR, but Miauw re-opened and merged it anyway!

Well I guess that ends that drama for the moment.

Quick, someone come up with more drama.

Edit: oh god i was wrong this just gets better

[Gun Hog]

IT JUST GOT BETTER: ARANCLANOS JUST CREATED A REVERT-REVERT PR AND INSTANTLY MERGED IT HIMSELF. This is a gross violation of maintainer rules! How will Cheridan respond!?

[peoplearestrange]

"0 of 2 checks passed" "merged commit"

Oh ma-

Wait I just realised this thread has become a mini singlo now...
And I'm contributing to it...
SHIT!
No one tell oranges

[EndgamerAzari]

[peoplearestrange]

Revert "Revert "Revert "Removes alien driveby"""
https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/12269

[Xhagi]

What if we just revert Xenomorphs?

[peoplearestrange]

PR#12270
"Removes all Xeno due to copyright infringement"

: O

[AnonymousNow]

By the way, in terms of player behaviour and content, we're now Goon with less features.

This is because every attempt to not be Goon that has been made over the years has been opposed with variations on the theme of "YOU'RE TRYING TO TURN US INTO BAY WAAAAAH", every single step away from being Bay and closer to Goon. Inexplicably (I'm being sarcastic here, I know why) those same people got a lot of their sorandom merges and means through, to the degree where nobody remembers that we're not really supposed to know exactly what a threat is and how to handle it at a glimpse, not even admins.

And while we're at it, what is the obsession with rounds cycling as fast as humanly possible? Where does it come from? Do people think that calling the emergency shuttle as soon as it becomes available somehow gets you more playtime? Because it doesn't. It does the complete opposite of that. And it stops later-game stuff from appearing. I've seen, throughout the last couple of weeks, enough combat mechs made in robotics to count on ONE HAND. And I am not using my thumb. We just played a 45 minute start-to-finish round, and there were people saying "Ugh, I hate long rounds". 45 MINUTES. Twice that is an actual round, let alone fucking "long". Are 75% of the players on our servers having collective and continual strokes?

[MisterPerson]

By the way, in terms of player behaviour and content, we're now Goon with less features.

This is because every attempt to not be Goon that has been made over the years has been opposed with variations on the theme of "YOU'RE TRYING TO TURN US INTO BAY WAAAAAH", every single step away from being Bay and closer to Goon. Inexplicably (I'm being sarcastic here, I know why) those same people got a lot of their sorandom merges and means through, to the degree where nobody remembers that we're not really supposed to know exactly what a threat is and how to handle it at a glimpse, not even admins.

And while we're at it, what is the obsession with rounds cycling as fast as humanly possible? Where does it come from? Do people think that calling the emergency shuttle as soon as it becomes available somehow gets you more playtime? Because it doesn't. It does the complete opposite of that. And it stops later-game stuff from appearing. I've seen, throughout the last couple of weeks, enough combat mechs made in robotics to count on ONE HAND. And I am not using my thumb. We just played a 45 minute start-to-finish round, and there were people saying "Ugh, I hate long rounds". 45 MINUTES. Twice that is an actual round, let alone fucking "long". Are 75% of the players on our servers having collective and continual strokes?

There are people saying the exact same thing about longer rounds. "Why would you want a longer round where nothing happens, etc". So there's some mixed messages floating around.

Wait a minute that's serious and legit discussion that doesn't belong here, oh shit.

[AnonymousNow]

But things DO happen in longer rounds. Admins need press one, two buttons if there's no antagonists.

[Zilenan91]

Perhaps the question should be asked about why literal "gods" need to intervene to make a round interesting instead of the game being designed around lasting that long. Probably because it isn't designed around lasting that long.

[AnonymousNow]

Perhaps the question should be asked about why literal "gods" need to intervene to make a round interesting instead of the game being designed around lasting that long. Probably because it isn't designed around lasting that long.

Except that several attempts have been made to change this (Tensioner, Mulligan, Datum-Antag) which have been put forward as fixes.

[John_Oxford]

Did someone say drama?

Tell ya what, i bribed sticky not but 15 minutes ago to give me admin, this is now forced and put into effect:

Remember, i am the fucking drama master.

Spoiler:

The fucking socialism conspiracys end here! *gavel smack*

Preamble
Essentially, this removes all the room for ANYONE to be shitheads/corrupt bastards withen the politcal/adminstration side of tg. By basically installing some good ol' fasion fucking democracy.

ADMIN RESHUFFLEING [S.1A]
Elections [S.1B]*
All admins/moderators are removed from the txt
All Coders/Spriters/Mappers titles are compressed down to "Developer"
A election for 1 Head Developer is ran.
A election for 1 Head Admin is ran.
A election for 20 in-game adminstrators is ran.
A election for 15 in-game moderators is ran.
A election for 10 developers is ran.
A election for 25 fourm admins is ran.
A election for 20 fourm moderators is ran.
A election for 15 admin trainers is ran.*

*Admin Trainers are selected from the current pool of retired/veteran admins. If the quota of 15 is not met, they are selected from the pool of current adminsistrators.

*No rank may run for more than 2 consecutive terms. However many terms you served, is the length that you cannot serve. (IE: I serve 2 3 month terms, i must wait 6 months [2 terms] to run for elections again])

*Hosts are cycled every 9 months, if there is no one willing to be the host, the host will remain at his rank. If the host is stripped of his rank, The head admin becomes host. All head admins must be willing to become the host at any period in time

*Elections will be created on a strawpoll, by the host, each election has 7 days to run, The winner is elected at the end of the 7 days, if its a tie, a revote lasting 2 days is created. The winner of that gets the positon.

ADMIN COMPLAINTS [S.2A]
Once a complaint is made, the affiliated admin is deadmin'd untill the complaint is resolved.
The adminstration team must remain completely unbiasd when dealing with the complaint, attempting to gather as much information as possible from the complainer.
The adminstration team will then make a decision, boiling it down to a 2 option decission. (Generally accepting or denying the appeal, other actions may be taken)
Once the decission is made, it will be sent to the player council. 2/3rds of the council must approve the complaint decission for it to pass.
If the complaint is deemed reasonable, and is a logical complaint, in favor of the complainer. The affiliated admin is deadminned, and may not serve the rest of their term, or the following term after that.
If the complaint is deemed unreasonable, the affected admin is promoted back to their original rank, and verbally compensated. the complainer is sent a message explaining why this is a case, and given several solutions on what could be done to improve the situation.

BAN APPEALS [S.3A]
The banned player creates a appeal.
The adminstrative team determines if it is a valid appeal, gathering as much information in the fourm post as possible (Yes or No determination)
The descsion from the admin team is sent to the council, a 2/3rds vote from the council is needed to confirm the decission.
If the decission is reached, in favor of the banned player, the player is unbanned, and compensated with a cool, non protective hat for one round. And the admin who banned him recieves a period of deadmin ship equal to the time that the player served in a banned status.
If the decission is reached that the player was wrong, by both the council and adminstration team, the players ban time is doubled, if it is a perma ban, the player may only re-appeal 6 months from the last appeal

BAN REQUESTS [S.3-AA]
The requestee creates a request.
The adminstrative team determines the cause, and creates a verdict, gathering as much information as possible. The paperwork sent to the council should include the ban time, ban reason, and modifiers.
The verdict from the admin team is then sent to the council, the council votes if they should deny the appeal, or accept the appeal.
The council must have a 2/3rds vote on the final verdict.
If the vote passes, with 2/3rds of the council agreeing, the requested players are banned for the reason caused.
NOTE: The council may not modify the ban time, but may decline it, and send it back to the admin team with a requested ban time.

THE COUNCIL [S.4A]
In the case that a 2/3rds vote is not reached due to the council members not voting, the ones who did not vote will be removed from the council, and may not serve on the same term. Their slots are then filled by a immidate election for council members.
If the ejected council member spots are not filled withen 3-7 busniess days, the head adminstrator will be contacted to make a decission.
If the head adminstrator is unavalible, the appeal is automatically accepted in favor of the appealee.
Council members do not answer ahelps, and do not have admin powers, they only have a in-game rank title, and access to the asay verb, to be able to communicate in game with the adminstration team.
Corruption/Bribery [S.4B]
If a council member is suspected of corruption/bribery by a player/other council member/admin, they are stripped of the ability to vote, and they're ingame powers and rank.
The adminstrative team will investigate the afilliated council members/players
If it is deemd that the Council member recieved a offer to be bribed, but denied it, the player/admin/council member who sent the bribe will be banned in game for 2 weeks, and barred from politcal positions.
If it is deemd that the Council member recieved a bribe, and accepted it, both will be banned for 1 month, and barred from politcal decissions.
Corruption follows the same proceedures as the admin team, see: Section 5B
Blackmailing [2.4C]
Council members suspected of recieving blackmail, will temporaily be stripped of rank to preserve the tranquility of the political body that is /tg/station.
The adminstrative team will then investigate if the council member has been black mailed.
If the council member has been blackmailed, the player/admin/council member that blackmailed him will be banned from the server for 2 weeks, and barred from joinning politcal positions.
If the council member has not been blackmailed, the council member will regain his rank after what he has been blackmailed with is deemed to no longer be able to be used to blackmail him.

THE ADMINSTRATION TEAM [S.5A]
Corruption [S.5B]
Any sign of corruption determined by the council or players, will be investigated by the council.
If deemed corrupt, affiliated admins will be deadmin'd, and they're spots will remain empty until the end of the term. The affiliated admins may not serve the term after their deadminship.
The adminstration team must remain absolutely professional at all times, breaking this is terms for a period of power removal, varrying in time for the action preformed.
Button pushing / spamming events, (Determined by the council/players) is cause for power removal for a extended period of time (6 months+)
Abuse, is cause for permanent admin removal (Determined by other admins/council/players) This is run through a vote in the council, 2/3rds of the council must deem it abuse. If the verdict is deemed true, affected admin is stripped of his power, and barred from ever serving a term as a admin/council member.

Blackmailing [S.5C]
Follows the same proceedure as the council, see Section 2.4 C

EVENTS [S.5-AA]
All events that are created, must be ran through the council to be approved.
If your event is not approved, and you run it, you will recieve a 6 month event ban. Disallowing you from making events, even if they are approved.
Hosting another unapproved event results in a 2 week server ban, and being stripped of your rank, you may not run for the same position until 2 terms have passed (Including the one you are currently in)


CHAIN OF COMMAND[S.6A]
The Host The Host leads the adminstrative team, trains the adminstrative team, and insures they are kept to a high standard, he also trains newly elected head admins. He has a vote in the adminstrative team votes, he cannot overturn votes from the adminstrative team, he cannot discharge admins/mods without going through a process (This disincludes dire circumstances IE: The admin is destroying/DDOSing the server) He is responsible for managing elections, and insuring this entire system doesn't turn into one big clusterfuck.
TERM LENGTH: 9 MONTHS

The Head Admin The Head Admin is the second in command of the admin team, sharing most of the responsabilitys of the Host, that's why he will be trained by the host. This should generally be a polite, friendly, intelligent, and well-respected player. A player who is also capable of getting the job done
TERM LENGTH: 4 MONTHS

The Head Developer Responsible for keeping track of github updates, and updating the changelog, is also responsible for finding bugs and fixing them. He leads the dev team, and is mainly responsible for keeping them in track. This player should generally be experienced in NTSL, Spriting, and mapping. Also capable of handling exploits, ect ect.

The Council Leader This is one person elected by the council, they are equal to the council, but are generally the most active. They are responsible for communicating with the players and admin team, insuring all the information/vote decissions are communicated between every individual. He is also responsable for keeping and transfering all the appeals and paperwork between the admin team and council. All the rules that apply to the council, also apply to him.
TERM LENGTH: 30 DAYS

The Council A team of 30 well respected, polite, and politcal players. They will be responsible for anything that requires a vote. They are essentially the larger, more direct version for a voice for the players. They are also the final stop for appeals, ban requests, and admin complaints.
TERM LENGTH: 30 DAYS

The Admins A team of 20 polite, professional, and effective people. They are responsible for handling a-helps, handling server threats, hosting events, and answering questions. They are encouraged to be welcome members of the community, constantly playing rounds with the community to build trust.
TERM LENGTH: 3 MONTHS

The Moderators A team of 15, polite, professional, and effective people. Generally insuring the rules are not constantly being broken, assisting adminstrators, and even being one when there is currently not one on the server.
TERM LENGTH: 2 MONTHS

The Developer
Creates Sprites, Maps, And codes. Responsible for bug fixing, exploting patching, and feature additions. Generally should be experienced in their own field.
TERM LENGTH: 2 MONTHS

The Fourm-Admins A team of 25 polite, professional, people, whom of which are experienced in phpBB, and are capable of being semi-active to regulate fourm posts. And also capable of watching over fourm-moderators. And generally capable of handling posts / determining / fourm banning trolls / troll posts
TERM LENGTH: 3 MONTHS

The Fourm-Moderators A team of 20 polite, professional, people, whom of which are semi-experienced in phpBB, and capable of moderating the fourms for atleast 50 hours a week. And generally capable of handling posts / determining / fourm banning trolls / troll posts
TERM LENGTH: 2 MONTHS

The Admin Trainers A team of 15 veteran, experienced, harden admins/moderators, who are willing to teach newly elected moderators/admins. They hold juristicion over Adminstrators, Moderators, Fourm Moderators, And Fourm Admins for 1/3rd of their terms. This learning period is men't to teach new admins how to properly handle things.*
* Previous Admins/Moderators/Fourm-Admins/Fourm-Moderators are excempt from this learning period unless a Head Admin or Host determines that the previously experienced need to be trained again.

[SECTION 21A]
Due to the restriction on the ammount of deveolpers. All current developers will serve this term, the next term, only 10 of them may be elected.


I believe i've covered everything, comment what i missed and i'l make a new one after a while.

[Xhagi]

>bribing sticky for anything

Come on he couldn't even make ERP stick, let alone an overhaul of how the administration works. Git gud.

[duncathan]

if that happened (as if) I can assure you that the separation meme would become reality

[PKPenguin321]

Did someone say drama?

Tell ya what, i bribed sticky not but 15 minutes ago to give me admin, this is now forced and put into effect:

Remember, i am the fucking drama master.

Spoiler:

The fucking socialism conspiracys end here! *gavel smack*

Preamble
Essentially, this removes all the room for ANYONE to be shitheads/corrupt bastards withen the politcal/adminstration side of tg. By basically installing some good ol' fasion fucking democracy.

ADMIN RESHUFFLEING [S.1A]
Elections [S.1B]*
All admins/moderators are removed from the txt
All Coders/Spriters/Mappers titles are compressed down to "Developer"
A election for 1 Head Developer is ran.
A election for 1 Head Admin is ran.
A election for 20 in-game adminstrators is ran.
A election for 15 in-game moderators is ran.
A election for 10 developers is ran.
A election for 25 fourm admins is ran.
A election for 20 fourm moderators is ran.
A election for 15 admin trainers is ran.*

*Admin Trainers are selected from the current pool of retired/veteran admins. If the quota of 15 is not met, they are selected from the pool of current adminsistrators.

*No rank may run for more than 2 consecutive terms. However many terms you served, is the length that you cannot serve. (IE: I serve 2 3 month terms, i must wait 6 months [2 terms] to run for elections again])

*Hosts are cycled every 9 months, if there is no one willing to be the host, the host will remain at his rank. If the host is stripped of his rank, The head admin becomes host. All head admins must be willing to become the host at any period in time

*Elections will be created on a strawpoll, by the host, each election has 7 days to run, The winner is elected at the end of the 7 days, if its a tie, a revote lasting 2 days is created. The winner of that gets the positon.

ADMIN COMPLAINTS [S.2A]
Once a complaint is made, the affiliated admin is deadmin'd untill the complaint is resolved.
The adminstration team must remain completely unbiasd when dealing with the complaint, attempting to gather as much information as possible from the complainer.
The adminstration team will then make a decision, boiling it down to a 2 option decission. (Generally accepting or denying the appeal, other actions may be taken)
Once the decission is made, it will be sent to the player council. 2/3rds of the council must approve the complaint decission for it to pass.
If the complaint is deemed reasonable, and is a logical complaint, in favor of the complainer. The affiliated admin is deadminned, and may not serve the rest of their term, or the following term after that.
If the complaint is deemed unreasonable, the affected admin is promoted back to their original rank, and verbally compensated. the complainer is sent a message explaining why this is a case, and given several solutions on what could be done to improve the situation.

BAN APPEALS [S.3A]
The banned player creates a appeal.
The adminstrative team determines if it is a valid appeal, gathering as much information in the fourm post as possible (Yes or No determination)
The descsion from the admin team is sent to the council, a 2/3rds vote from the council is needed to confirm the decission.
If the decission is reached, in favor of the banned player, the player is unbanned, and compensated with a cool, non protective hat for one round. And the admin who banned him recieves a period of deadmin ship equal to the time that the player served in a banned status.
If the decission is reached that the player was wrong, by both the council and adminstration team, the players ban time is doubled, if it is a perma ban, the player may only re-appeal 6 months from the last appeal

BAN REQUESTS [S.3-AA]
The requestee creates a request.
The adminstrative team determines the cause, and creates a verdict, gathering as much information as possible. The paperwork sent to the council should include the ban time, ban reason, and modifiers.
The verdict from the admin team is then sent to the council, the council votes if they should deny the appeal, or accept the appeal.
The council must have a 2/3rds vote on the final verdict.
If the vote passes, with 2/3rds of the council agreeing, the requested players are banned for the reason caused.
NOTE: The council may not modify the ban time, but may decline it, and send it back to the admin team with a requested ban time.

THE COUNCIL [S.4A]
In the case that a 2/3rds vote is not reached due to the council members not voting, the ones who did not vote will be removed from the council, and may not serve on the same term. Their slots are then filled by a immidate election for council members.
If the ejected council member spots are not filled withen 3-7 busniess days, the head adminstrator will be contacted to make a decission.
If the head adminstrator is unavalible, the appeal is automatically accepted in favor of the appealee.
Council members do not answer ahelps, and do not have admin powers, they only have a in-game rank title, and access to the asay verb, to be able to communicate in game with the adminstration team.
Corruption/Bribery [S.4B]
If a council member is suspected of corruption/bribery by a player/other council member/admin, they are stripped of the ability to vote, and they're ingame powers and rank.
The adminstrative team will investigate the afilliated council members/players
If it is deemd that the Council member recieved a offer to be bribed, but denied it, the player/admin/council member who sent the bribe will be banned in game for 2 weeks, and barred from politcal positions.
If it is deemd that the Council member recieved a bribe, and accepted it, both will be banned for 1 month, and barred from politcal decissions.
Corruption follows the same proceedures as the admin team, see: Section 5B
Blackmailing [2.4C]
Council members suspected of recieving blackmail, will temporaily be stripped of rank to preserve the tranquility of the political body that is /tg/station.
The adminstrative team will then investigate if the council member has been black mailed.
If the council member has been blackmailed, the player/admin/council member that blackmailed him will be banned from the server for 2 weeks, and barred from joinning politcal positions.
If the council member has not been blackmailed, the council member will regain his rank after what he has been blackmailed with is deemed to no longer be able to be used to blackmail him.

THE ADMINSTRATION TEAM [S.5A]
Corruption [S.5B]
Any sign of corruption determined by the council or players, will be investigated by the council.
If deemed corrupt, affiliated admins will be deadmin'd, and they're spots will remain empty until the end of the term. The affiliated admins may not serve the term after their deadminship.
The adminstration team must remain absolutely professional at all times, breaking this is terms for a period of power removal, varrying in time for the action preformed.
Button pushing / spamming events, (Determined by the council/players) is cause for power removal for a extended period of time (6 months+)
Abuse, is cause for permanent admin removal (Determined by other admins/council/players) This is run through a vote in the council, 2/3rds of the council must deem it abuse. If the verdict is deemed true, affected admin is stripped of his power, and barred from ever serving a term as a admin/council member.

Blackmailing [S.5C]
Follows the same proceedure as the council, see Section 2.4 C

EVENTS [S.5-AA]
All events that are created, must be ran through the council to be approved.
If your event is not approved, and you run it, you will recieve a 6 month event ban. Disallowing you from making events, even if they are approved.
Hosting another unapproved event results in a 2 week server ban, and being stripped of your rank, you may not run for the same position until 2 terms have passed (Including the one you are currently in)


CHAIN OF COMMAND[S.6A]
The Host The Host leads the adminstrative team, trains the adminstrative team, and insures they are kept to a high standard, he also trains newly elected head admins. He has a vote in the adminstrative team votes, he cannot overturn votes from the adminstrative team, he cannot discharge admins/mods without going through a process (This disincludes dire circumstances IE: The admin is destroying/DDOSing the server) He is responsible for managing elections, and insuring this entire system doesn't turn into one big clusterfuck.
TERM LENGTH: 9 MONTHS

The Head Admin The Head Admin is the second in command of the admin team, sharing most of the responsabilitys of the Host, that's why he will be trained by the host. This should generally be a polite, friendly, intelligent, and well-respected player. A player who is also capable of getting the job done
TERM LENGTH: 4 MONTHS

The Head Developer Responsible for keeping track of github updates, and updating the changelog, is also responsible for finding bugs and fixing them. He leads the dev team, and is mainly responsible for keeping them in track. This player should generally be experienced in NTSL, Spriting, and mapping. Also capable of handling exploits, ect ect.

The Council Leader This is one person elected by the council, they are equal to the council, but are generally the most active. They are responsible for communicating with the players and admin team, insuring all the information/vote decissions are communicated between every individual. He is also responsable for keeping and transfering all the appeals and paperwork between the admin team and council. All the rules that apply to the council, also apply to him.
TERM LENGTH: 30 DAYS

The Council A team of 30 well respected, polite, and politcal players. They will be responsible for anything that requires a vote. They are essentially the larger, more direct version for a voice for the players. They are also the final stop for appeals, ban requests, and admin complaints.
TERM LENGTH: 30 DAYS

The Admins A team of 20 polite, professional, and effective people. They are responsible for handling a-helps, handling server threats, hosting events, and answering questions. They are encouraged to be welcome members of the community, constantly playing rounds with the community to build trust.
TERM LENGTH: 3 MONTHS

The Moderators A team of 15, polite, professional, and effective people. Generally insuring the rules are not constantly being broken, assisting adminstrators, and even being one when there is currently not one on the server.
TERM LENGTH: 2 MONTHS

The Developer
Creates Sprites, Maps, And codes. Responsible for bug fixing, exploting patching, and feature additions. Generally should be experienced in their own field.
TERM LENGTH: 2 MONTHS

The Fourm-Admins A team of 25 polite, professional, people, whom of which are experienced in phpBB, and are capable of being semi-active to regulate fourm posts. And also capable of watching over fourm-moderators. And generally capable of handling posts / determining / fourm banning trolls / troll posts
TERM LENGTH: 3 MONTHS

The Fourm-Moderators A team of 20 polite, professional, people, whom of which are semi-experienced in phpBB, and capable of moderating the fourms for atleast 50 hours a week. And generally capable of handling posts / determining / fourm banning trolls / troll posts
TERM LENGTH: 2 MONTHS

The Admin Trainers A team of 15 veteran, experienced, harden admins/moderators, who are willing to teach newly elected moderators/admins. They hold juristicion over Adminstrators, Moderators, Fourm Moderators, And Fourm Admins for 1/3rd of their terms. This learning period is men't to teach new admins how to properly handle things.*
* Previous Admins/Moderators/Fourm-Admins/Fourm-Moderators are excempt from this learning period unless a Head Admin or Host determines that the previously experienced need to be trained again.

[SECTION 21A]
Due to the restriction on the ammount of deveolpers. All current developers will serve this term, the next term, only 10 of them may be elected.


I believe i've covered everything, comment what i missed and i'l make a new one after a while.

what the fuck
if there was ever a post that could be replied to with "too long didn't read," this is that post

[Saegrimr]

if there was ever a post that could be replied to with "too long didn't read," this is that post

Its a John_Oxford post that starts with a "preamble" and section tags.

fuck
that

[newfren]

B U R E A U C R A C Y M E M E S

[MisterPerson]

That's a lot of text. I'll hide from it behind my tactical chair.

[Stickymayhem]

>bribing sticky for anything

Come on he couldn't even make ERP stick, let alone an overhaul of how the administration works. Git gud.

Easiest money I ever made

[tuypo1]

wasent it decided accepting bribes was an instant deadmining after it got erp unbaned.

[Stickymayhem]

Unfortunately yes. We've had to be a bit more covert about it since.

Hey how about "Singulo's Next Top Admin"

A series of ridiculous challenges for the chance at getting trialmin and breaking into the industry. We could probably set up a modelling contract with chocobros upcoming tgstation magazine

[tuypo1]

i would watch it

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[captain sawrge]

By the way, in terms of player behaviour and content, we're now Goon with less features.

This is because every attempt to not be Goon that has been made over the years has been opposed with variations on the theme of "YOU'RE TRYING TO TURN US INTO BAY WAAAAAH", every single step away from being Bay and closer to Goon. Inexplicably (I'm being sarcastic here, I know why) those same people got a lot of their sorandom merges and means through, to the degree where nobody remembers that we're not really supposed to know exactly what a threat is and how to handle it at a glimpse, not even admins.

And while we're at it, what is the obsession with rounds cycling as fast as humanly possible? Where does it come from? Do people think that calling the emergency shuttle as soon as it becomes available somehow gets you more playtime? Because it doesn't. It does the complete opposite of that. And it stops later-game stuff from appearing. I've seen, throughout the last couple of weeks, enough combat mechs made in robotics to count on ONE HAND. And I am not using my thumb. We just played a 45 minute start-to-finish round, and there were people saying "Ugh, I hate long rounds". 45 MINUTES. Twice that is an actual round, let alone fucking "long". Are 75% of the players on our servers having collective and continual strokes?

this but the opposite

[Steelpoint]

I'm personally happy we're moving away from hour plus rounds to around 45 ish minute rounds.

Of course we have no fracking idea what direction to take this game.

We still need a proper discusion, problem is when we want more of X then suddenly people cry how that's a bad thing.

[DrPillzRedux]

Funny because goon rounds last over an hour now and people RP.

It's like tg switched with goon.

[AnonymousNow]

Funny because goon rounds last over an hour now and people RP.

It's like tg switched with goon.

I will have to confirm this. It's been a while since I played on Goon, but if I find that this is the case, I may be gone some time.

[Ricotez]

it's almost like communities are dynamic entities that slowly change over time

[QuartzCrystal]

I've been waiting a bit to drop this drama bomb:

I've rigged all the player elections. Lollerderby is actually me. Stickymayhem is my cousin and he's actually also MSO and he's actually a girl from Newark.

[Ricotez]

I've been waiting a bit to drop this drama bomb:

I've rigged all the player elections. Lollerderby is actually me. Stickymayhem is my cousin and he's actually also MSO and he's actually a girl from Newark.

[Remie Richards]

Stickymayhem is my cousin and he's actually also MSO and he's actually a girl from Newark.

I *KNEW* Spier-Swenson was a made up surname!
(I'm so sorry)

[Timbrewolf]

1) Create alt account
2) Play consistently for a month or two
3) Apply to trialmin
4) Become admin
5) Grandstand politicking to become headmin again
6) Pull off rubber mask, reveal true self, plunge server into chaos once more

[ThanatosRa]

I think You'd be welcomed back just because of the depth of the deception.

[NikNakFlak]

Nah, all trialmins go through background checks nowadays due to an incident. Fuck an0n3 too but yea.

[Ricotez]

an incident

oh my

[Timbrewolf]

Nah, all trialmins go through background checks nowadays due to an incident. Fuck an0n3 too but yea.

Yeah I'm sure it's really comprehensive and there's no way someone could just fake a bunch of shit or get someone on the inside to pass them through it

Yeah but fuck me too

[oranges]

>background checks

ayy lmao, is this JMadison speaking?

[Wyzack]

>Oranges put his christmas hat on at halloween

Oranges confirmed for walmart, REEEEEEEEEE