Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos

[Tunder]

Okay, I get it, because MSO coded fastmos we're stuck with it.

But that doesn't magically make spacewind compatible with the prior station layouts.

I propose that hull airlocks to space be given a cycling system wherein only one door can be open at a time, and the hall between two airlocks be given a cycle button to quickly close the exterior airlock.

The problem with airlocks and spacewind now is that you are able to open the inside airlock and the exterior airlock at the same time, leading to a breach that sucks the crew member in the airlock out again. This needs to be dealt with, and a cycling mechanism is the easiest way to do that.

I always felt that a cycling mechanism was missing from the station designs, but now it is essential.

[lumipharon]

Fuck.
Space wind.

It is honestly the most awful thing I've seen in this game.
This is comparing it to shit like slowspace, stungloves, LAGuloth, and the several dozen hilariously broken/buggy thing goofchem has gone through.

All those things above were either bad gameplay or bad coding. They've also all been (to various degrees) fixed.

Our current atmos is just plain FRUSTRATING.
Like holy shit, when I see someone (or myself) getting fucked by fastmos, either gettin endlessly pulled back for a minute. Or someone flood ANY gas, ANYWHERE causing fucking pressure differences that make walking down a perfectly safe corridor a 5 minute chore, and walkin through a side door an all but impossible task, all I can think is of is memesters on git spouting "I thought you guys wanted a more lethal station?"

Fuck you. This shit is not more lethal.
It is not more fun.
It does not improve gameplay for anyone.
I never see anyone complimening fastmos
I constantly see people bitching about it.

Why are we stuck with it?

Edit: Proper cycling airlocks would be neat either way, but I asked about it one time, an was given some reason or another for why it wasn't practical, can't remember.

[Tunder]

Fuck.
Space wind.

It is honestly the most awful thing I've seen in this game.
This is comparing it to shit like slowspace, stungloves, LAGuloth, and the several dozen hilariously broken/buggy thing goofchem has gone through.

All those things above were either bad gameplay or bad coding. They've also all been (to various degrees) fixed.

Our current atmos is just plain FRUSTRATING.
Like holy shit, when I see someone (or myself) getting fucked by fastmos, either gettin endlessly pulled back for a minute. Or someone flood ANY gas, ANYWHERE causing fucking pressure differences that make walking down a perfectly safe corridor a 5 minute chore, and walkin through a side door an all but impossible task, all I can think is of is memesters on git spouting "I thought you guys wanted a more lethal station?"

Fuck you. This shit is not more lethal.
It is not more fun.
It does not improve gameplay for anyone.
I never see anyone complimening fastmos
I constantly see people bitching about it.

Why are we stuck with it?

Edit: Proper cycling airlocks would be neat either way, but I asked about it one time, an was given some reason or another for why it wasn't practical, can't remember.

We're stuck with it because the community has devolved to the point where criticizing anything triggers the many redditors among us.

[Bombadil]

No its coders saying "DONT REMOVE MAH FEATURES I WORKED HARD ON THAT BLARARDSFGHDFH"

[PKPenguin321]

just close the airlocks behind you

[Tunder]

just close the airlocks behind you

t. someone who apparently doesn't spacewalk.

You can't close the airlock because you are either always inside the doorway being sucked out, or you've gone too far and opened the inner airlock and air is now rushing out and pushing you with it.

[Not-Dorsidarf]

just close the airlocks behind you

t. someone who apparently doesn't spacewalk.

You can't close the airlock because you are either always inside the doorway being sucked out, or you've gone too far and opened the inner airlock and air is now rushing out and pushing you with it.

Step to using an airlock:

1) Open external airlock, wait a second or two for the air to leave
2) Step into airlock
3) close external airlock
4) Open internal airlock
5) wait a second for the air to come back in
6) Rejoice

Or, if you're dragging something:

1) cry
2) rage
3) push the thing into the airlock, close the door behind it, and look for another airlock to come in by.

[Bluespace]

Spacewind + fastmos fucks over alien queens in hilarious ways.

[newfren]

Spacewind + fastmos fucks over alien queens in hilarious ways.

It took me 5 minutes to get inside a room once when I broke a single window ("I'm IMMUNE TO SPACE what a great idea this is!")

[callanrockslol]

For anyone still around to remember the old virology airlock please just unfuck Fastmos and don't give us back the doors of perpetual failure.

[peoplearestrange]

I hate myself for saying this, but, bay seems to cope just fine with cycling airlocks. Personally I never got why we didnt have cycling airlocks anyway. Adds a nice pinch of realism and also gives traitors a fun mechanic to fuck with and screw people over with.
Right now it sounds like we're in that shitty "in between" stage where one thing has been changed, but the map hasn't in order to keep it balanced/working.

[Not-Dorsidarf]

For anyone still around to remember the old virology airlock please just unfuck Fastmos and don't give us back the doors of perpetual failure.

Viro still has airlock doors you know. It's toxins with it's special controller thingie that breaks all the time.

[Saegrimr]

Cycling airlocks is going to suck when the shuttle arrives.

[Takeguru]

Turn off the cycling when it arrives.

[Miauw]

we would have to code cycling airlocks that dont suck for this to be plausible.

[PKPenguin321]

just close the airlocks behind you

t. someone who apparently doesn't spacewalk.

You can't close the airlock because you are either always inside the doorway being sucked out, or you've gone too far and opened the inner airlock and air is now rushing out and pushing you with it.

lol i do it all the time, just close the airlock as you step in so it shuts before you can get pulled out (git gud)
spacewind is still a problem though, with things like breaches, but airlocks aren't too bad

[Screemonster]

Cycling airlocks is going to suck when the shuttle arrives.

Steal Bay's. They've got "force inner/outer door" buttons (that show up with a nice red highlight and hazard triangle when the other door is also open) that allow someone to have both doors open at once if they really really mean it.

[imblyings]

airlock cycling panel interfaces and buttons etc, need to be made constructable before we even think of doing this

[Saintish]

So what exactly is fastmos? Slowspace's little turd of a child? I've experienced its shittiness, but I don't understand how it works or what its intended purpose is.

[Tunder]

So what exactly is fastmos? Slowspace's little turd of a child? I've experienced its shittiness, but I don't understand how it works or what its intended purpose is.

I don't think anyone knows, but it's the host's code so good luck getting an admission that it's shit or a reversion. Best we can do is work with it.

[Scott]

Step 1. Remove pipes
Step 2. You're done, the airlocks won't cycle anymore.

[Saegrimr]

Fastmos isn't anything unique. Its just our current atmos system running faster than it was last year.

[JackHunt]

Why not change how strong spacewind's push and pull is? Base it on w_class or something. Our old atmos system was incredibly slow and it would make things like scrubbing plasma impossible. Pretty much any atmos changes were permanent and fucked over the station.

[Shadowlight213]

Fastmos is great, because it means that atmos techs actually can refill breached areas with oxygen. Why would you want to go back to the old way where it took 20 minutes to just fill a small room back up with air?

[Not-Dorsidarf]

Why not change how strong spacewind's push and pull is? Base it on w_class or something. Our old atmos system was incredibly slow and it would make things like scrubbing plasma impossible. Pretty much any atmos changes were permanent and fucked over the station.

It does. That's why it throws you all over the hallways now.

[onleavedontatme]

You guys are mixing up fastmos and Cheridans space wind change.

[Saintish]

I assume it's the space wind change we should be bitching about then? I'm confused.

[AnonymousNow]

Remember when airlocks weren't solid for your tile?

You and the door could happily co-exist on the same tile, because they were considered to be behind your character, as if you'd been teleported onto/built underneath you a wall.

Good times.