Windows 10

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:32 pm #108515

Who else applied the upgrade? I went out of my way and made an image of my hard drive, and I'm happy I did because I am honestly considering a rollback.

It's not that Windows 10 is broken, it's that I keep running into these small bugs like an unresponsive task bar or driver issues (oh god the driver issues) that make me wish I had waited a bit longer with upgrading.

So yeah, what are your experiences?

Remie Richards · Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:57 pm

My experiences are Windows made the folder with the files on the 10th of July, but didn't fill it with any files until yesterday (the 29th)
which is funny.

Other humorous occurrences at the moment includes the infamous:

Something Happened
Something Happened

Error message.

I'm holding off on installing it until people say it's ok, some people I've spoken too say it is, and then you're here saying it's broken in little key places.

tl;dr I'mma wait till it's stable.

Post by **Thunder11** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:06 pm #108523

My pet vulture told me it was full of bugs and to be avoided until it was cleaned up.
Dear god though, why would anyone make an error message "something happened"? It's crashed, I fucking know SOMETHING happened, what I want to know is WHAT happened.

Post by **oranges** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:55 pm #108542

I always a month or two so early adopters like you can iron out bugs

Summoner · Post by **Summoner** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:03 pm #108543

I've had it for the past weeks, I had no issues.

If you have any driver issues I recommend clean installing so you don't have any Win7 or Win8 compatibility errors.

Incoming · Post by **Incoming** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:04 pm #108545

Thunder11 wrote:My pet vulture told me it was full of bugs and to be avoided until it was cleaned up.
Dear god though, why would anyone make an error message "something happened"? It's crashed, I fucking know SOMETHING happened, what I want to know is WHAT happened.

Presumably "something happened" is the default string that's supposed to be overwrite with error specific information. Some error(s) [don't have/aren't passing] that information OR error reporting itself isn't getting/processing that information.

Takeguru · Post by **Takeguru** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:33 am #108602

I have the free upgrade in the wings, don't really want to mess with any incompatibilities so I'm just waiting.

Alex Crimson · Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:48 am

Yeah i have the free upgrade option too. Im holding off on it because ive heard its buggy and ive never upgraded my OS before(on a computer that i dont want to completely wipe, atleast).

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:35 pm #108716

Usually the rule with windows is wait until the first string of updates.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:22 pm #108879

Enjoy your keylogger

...Seriously, this shit is far past illegal in Europe

https://i.imgur.com/9DoVoix.jpg

It will never be a viable OS because it's absolutely retarded with all these things

callanrockslol · Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:38 am

XSI its entirely viable and people are using it right now. Whether they should be is another thing all together.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:48 pm #109156

I don't consider macs viable either, but somehow a whole lot of people think they are perfectly fine

Ahammer18 · Post by **Ahammer18** » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:33 am #109581

Honestly I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with windows 10. I kind of like it, in fact.

Pros
Sleek design
No compatibility errors so far
More multitasking capability
Legacy start menu
No more internet explorer

Cons
No more local passwords (its all microsoft accounts now)
Everything seems kind of small, even the CMD text

invisty · Post by **invisty** » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:44 am #109586

Ahammer18 wrote:No more local passwords (its all microsoft accounts now)

So does this basically add your local drive to the NSA dragnet if they so wish?

Summoner · Post by **Summoner** » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:20 am #109592

You can have a local account and local password but if you want to use things like Cortana they force you to create and only use the Microsoft Account.

Post by **Vekter** » Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:17 am #109616

>Go to download Win10
>Realize I never activated this copy of 7
>don't have a valid key for Ultimate
>going to have to install Home Premium THEN install 10

RRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Post by **Vekter** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:14 am #110168

The good news is, I fixed that shit and I'm on Windows 10 now.

The bad news is, for whatever reason, windows 10 makes Dota 2 lag to fuck.

Amnestik · Post by **Amnestik** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:58 am #110174

So is Windows 10 any better than Windows 8? I upgraded to that expecting an improvement over 7, but it's kind of shit.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:29 am #110219

IMO it's not really better, but if you hate Metro they moved all that stuff back into the start menu now. So all you really have is a much smaller Metro.

Incomptinence · Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:26 pm

DX 12 is better but not a lot of things support it yet so I am just waiting.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:41 pm #110257

Win10 does have a nice storage overview, that gives you some good information about how much crap you have saved to your computer. Certainly helps if you want to find out what happened to that 100gb that used to be empty. Could be a bit more detailed though, and it's not 100% accurate as far as I can see.

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:37 pm #110303

what's the backward compatibility like

Arty · Post by **Arty** » Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:27 pm #112386

ALRIGHT SO

I was really hyped up for the free update and I was kinda dumb and rushed it just as it came out for 7

That was a pretty fucking stupid move - my permissions and rights and user folders and shit and whatnot became all messed up and turned up almost exclusively read-only, with pretty much little to no hope of actual restoration - it was all literally fucking locked away from me for some reason and I had to go as far as killing UAC and using Tweaking.com Windows Repair to at least try and fix that mess, but it ultimately failed

So I backed up all of the important data and formatted my primary drive and installed 7 again (the restore features refused to work properly), and that's where I began to understand where it all possibly went wrong

The automatic update tool fucking sucks, alright? As for an example it puts you in a goddamn queue, but you can easily force it to download anyway with a few commands
Maybe it works fine for 8 and 8.1 but it did not do well for me with 7. Probably because Avast was running at the time, I don't know.

Now here's the method that worked perfectly for me:

So I got this "windows media creation tool" thing from MS and began the update from scratch from there

I HIGHLY recommend selecting the third option when the program asks you as to what would you like to keep. Yes, it erases everything. It's almost like a format or a clean install except that it's not (a CLEAN install of Win 10 would be from a USB or a DVD but I don't have a 3+ gb flash drive or any empy DVDs on me right now), this can be called a "dirty clean installation". Your old system files are actually kept for 30 days for easy rollbacks.

Once it installs you should get a 99% clean and fresh installation of Win 10 with you.
However, since the system is a fucking nightmare for tinfoil hats here's a tip: use DoNotSpy10. It's a tiny program that collects all of the 35+ "security" options in Windows 10 like keylogging in one neat and compact interface and allows you to disable (and enable) all of them or each at a time. Very useful and may probably even increase performance.

Also CCleaner is mandatory for getting rid of all the old files. There's a special new option introduced in the newest versions designed for Win 10.

All in all the system works great for me so far, barely any compatibility issues (the ones I had were fixed by manually applying compatible drivers), little to no backwards compatibility issues - even if there's something that doesn't work try running it in a compatibility mode - and there's a LOT of them now. Also
Very clean interface
EXTREME performance gain in most modern AAA titles - I got over 20 free FPS just by playing GTA V under Win10
Booting is now 2-3x times even though I don't even have an SSD yet
The system in general is very fast by itself, literally zero lag at all no matter what I do, can alt-tab in and out of heavy apps and games with ease
MULTIPLE VIRTUAL DEKSTOPS HOLY SHIT FINALLY + FUCKING GREAT HOTKEYS
Automatic updates (Yes, I like that one controversial feature along with auto driver updates)
A really cool-looking start menu
Store and its Metro apps (note: do not work if you force disable UAC using tools like TweakUAC) - some of the are far too tablet-ish but you can get used to that if you want, also tiles are pretty cool but lack customization and grid settings
A new compact control panel (the old one is still there though!) simply called Settings
OH BOY A NOTIFICATIONS CENTER which is seriously fucking useful - there's one in Android, iOS, Ubuntu and finally one appears on Windows
A ton of other neat things that are really fucking rad but I don't remeber what they are right now.

8.5/10

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:52 pm #112402

Well. Looks like the Windows Rule stands still.
Every other version is garbage. (I consider windows 2000 to be a prototype for Windows XP and as such, exempt to the rule).

95: Meh
98: Awesome
ME: OH GOD KILL IT KILL IT
2000/XP: Awesome(after the first and second service packs)
Vista: WHY!? WHYYY!?
7: Holy shit this is what Vista should have been!
8/8.1: I can't begrudge you for trying something new with your GUI, BUT IT SUUUUCKS!

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:55 pm #112403

2000/NT seem much like XP at all, plus those were marketed towards more of a corporate/workstation thing. Solid nonetheless.

Post by **Thunder11** » Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:56 am #112506

ThanatosRa wrote:Well. Looks like the Windows Rule stands still.
Every other version is garbage. (I consider windows 2000 to be a prototype for Windows XP and as such, exempt to the rule).

95: Meh
98: Awesome
ME: OH GOD KILL IT KILL IT
2000/XP: Awesome(after the first and second service packs)
Vista: WHY!? WHYYY!?
7: Holy shit this is what Vista should have been!
8/8.1: I can't begrudge you for trying something new with your GUI, BUT IT SUUUUCKS!

9: Would have been good but they killed it before it had a chance
10: Guess where that brings us back to in the cycle

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:13 pm #112512

Actually, 8 was garbage, 8.1 was acceptable-ish, 9 would have been garbage, so they skipped to 10.
Honk.

Post by **Thunder11** » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:16 pm #112514

8.1 was just 8 with a coat of varnish on it though. A varnished turd is, at heart, still a turd.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:59 pm #112515

Yes, but it's a prettier turd.

Kinda like Vista and 7!

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:54 am #112606

Windows 10

Literally worse than Hitler

http://localghost.org/posts/a-traffic-a ... windows-10

Post by **ShizCalev** » Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:55 am #112642

I like how they snuck this in as the default option;

TheWiznard · Post by **TheWiznard** » Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:08 am #112643

DemonFiren wrote:Actually, 8 was garbage, 8.1 was acceptable-ish, 9 would have been garbage, so they skipped to 10.
Honk.

I am currently using windows 8/8.1 and spoilers

Spoiler:

I don't even have a touch screen and the swiping to the top left thing doesn't even bother me
I don't care about no start menu because the search bar when you swipe top left searches the computer for you and you can get what program you need in like 3 seconds. and most of the programs I use 99% of the time are on my desktop/taskbar
everything sucks when you aren't used to it, but I've been using it for like what 2-3 years now and I haven't had any major problems with it.

Post by **oranges** » Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:15 am #112652

privacy stuff is all bullshit, but I dont' see why people are so against sharing updates via a dht style network.

As long as it has very conservative bandwidth constraints it should never be a problem and it will improve your download experience.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:56 pm #112720

oranges wrote:privacy stuff is all bullshit, but I dont' see why people are so against sharing updates via a dht style network.

As long as it has very conservative bandwidth constraints it should never be a problem and it will improve your download experience.

Some people are still on metered connections, and then there's the fact that they're using your internet connection that you pay for in order to save themselves money.
If i wanted to be a communist I'd be using linux

Thunder11 wrote:My pet vulture told me it was full of bugs and to be avoided until it was cleaned up.
Dear god though, why would anyone make an error message "something happened"? It's crashed, I fucking know SOMETHING happened, what I want to know is WHAT happened.

Error messages with actual technical information scares the dumb ignorant techno illiterate masses that M$ is desperately trying to claw back from Apple

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:56 am #113013

Malkevin wrote:
oranges wrote:privacy stuff is all bullshit, but I dont' see why people are so against sharing updates via a dht style network.

As long as it has very conservative bandwidth constraints it should never be a problem and it will improve your download experience.
Some people are still on metered connections, and then there's the fact that they're using your internet connection that you pay for in order to save themselves money.
If i wanted to be a communist I'd be using linux

To add on to this, the Fair Usage Policies of UK ISPs are a fucking joke.

Take Virgin media for instance, a 100Mb/s 'unlimited' connection will drop to half speed for an hour if you upload more than 1GB in an hour, and will further drop to one third speed for two hours if you upload more than 1.5GB in an hour.

Amnestik · Post by **Amnestik** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:58 pm #113062

Ricotez wrote:Win10 does have a nice storage overview, that gives you some good information about how much crap you have saved to your computer. Certainly helps if you want to find out what happened to that 100gb that used to be empty. Could be a bit more detailed though, and it's not 100% accurate as far as I can see.

WinDirStat works much better for this.

TheWiznard wrote: I don't care about no start menu because the search bar when you swipe top left searches the computer for you and you can get what program you need in like 3 seconds.

Really? With XP, 7, 8.1 and now even 10 I've found Windows searches to be slow as fuck and to miss a lot of files/folders. I use Everything instead.

TheWiznard · Post by **TheWiznard** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:38 pm #113099

Amnestik wrote:[
TheWiznard wrote: I don't care about no start menu because the search bar when you swipe top left searches the computer for you and you can get what program you need in like 3 seconds.
Really? With XP, 7, 8.1 and now even 10 I've found Windows searches to be slow as fuck and to miss a lot of files/folders. I use Everything instead.

i dunno for me I just swipe up to the top left click search and it searches my whole computer; exe/image/folder whatever and it doesn't take 6 years to do it.

mosquitoman · Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:42 am

oranges wrote:privacy stuff is all bullshit, but I dont' see why people are so against sharing updates via a dht style network.

As long as it has very conservative bandwidth constraints it should never be a problem and it will improve your download experience.

"download experience"? is somebody paying you to post this inane shit?

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:35 pm #113665

mosquitoman wrote:
oranges wrote:privacy stuff is all bullshit, but I dont' see why people are so against sharing updates via a dht style network.

As long as it has very conservative bandwidth constraints it should never be a problem and it will improve your download experience.
"download experience"? is somebody paying you to post this inane shit?

Put on your tinfoil hat and go sit in the corner.

mosquitoman · Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:26 pm

You don't need a tinfoil hat. Windows 10 is spying on every user and it's a widely known, confirmed fact. Wouldn't be beneath them to hire plants to post encouraging messages on the internet.

nsos · Post by **nsos** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:13 pm #113693

im being paid

nsos · Post by **nsos** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:13 pm #113694

buy... windows ME... runs great on my intel celeron from Gateway Computers

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:14 pm #113695

You're an idiot if you think our shitty little community is anywhere near important enough to do that to.

nsos · Post by **nsos** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:15 pm #113698

[youtube]jTVzMRGtq9U[/youtube]

Incomptinence · Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:03 am

Ain't wasting my precious aus bandwidth on helping web ads be more accurate.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:26 am #113727

Turned off all the spying, it'll probably still think me for a zoophiliac pedophile spambot farming virus seeding filthy software pirate.

I will be v& within the next six months, mark my words.

nsos · Post by **nsos** » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:26 am #113792

i mean those are your words not ours

mosquitoman · Post by **mosquitoman** » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:39 am #113817

DemonFiren wrote:Turned off all the spying, it'll probably still think me for a zoophiliac pedophile spambot farming virus seeding filthy software pirate.

I will be v& within the next six months, mark my words.

I hope you know those options are purely cosmetic. No matter what you select or "disable", it still broadcasts all your info for all to see. Microsoft has always been an evil company but what they've done this time is truly mindboggling. A bloodcurdling horror of lovecraftian proportions unfolding in real time. A giant alien entity hungry for all data it can consume.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:34 am #113823

Uh, that's Google. Microsoft is a slightly retarded Lovecraftian alien hungering for ways to stop BSODing.

mosquitoman · Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:59 am

BSOD is so 90s. I have never seen it once on Win 7 and I have my Win 7 machine running 24/7 for month without a single restart.