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Falamazeer

Oh yeah you're the guys that sign the release papers when I go to pick em up with a hearse.
Nah, Need an actual nurse for that, I'm the step below that

Please never forget to cover them with a sheet. Not only does it make extraction easier on us, it prevents purge from reaching the floor and ...

Falamazeer

I'm a CNA (Certified Nursing Assistant) at a retirement facility, I'm one of three male employees in the whole damn building, and of those three I'm the only one on day shift. twelve hour shifts, making me half of all available muscle in the building during hours where you're likely to need muscle ...

Falamazeer

I'll tell you what hasn't changed, my forum signature.

Falamazeer

Pitching the longest least successful fit about the state of security.

Falamazeer

This adds accountability for overly large sentencing, which will reduce shitcurity trends, and provides a better network of communication for officers, everybody wins.

Falamazeer

We've all been in a situation caused by the misuse or disuse of the security records system
Randomly beepskied, or arrested by a well meaning officer who has no idea why he shot you and dragged you to the brig, and can't find out either, nobody responds when he asks, and the mystery remains.

If you ...

Falamazeer

taking away officer brigging rights is a terribly stupid idea. Security has always had problems from the HoS/warden positions being occasionally filled with anti-sec assclowns who only choose the role to interfere in arrests and cut people loose for thin reasoning. and you want to make a whole job ...

Falamazeer

Oh look
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=8533

Your original title for this thread "Anti Fagotry checker" kinda proves the point I'm making about it not being a good idea for security to happily hand over traitor gear for you to either use for yourself, or use to print out shit for ...

Falamazeer

If they won't go to science to decon, they won't decon even with one in their place.
Not true, I'm not comfortable handing traitor tech to anyone who isn't a head, or more specifically, my head. I don't hand gear to scientists because some scientists will use it on me, and even if there was only a ...

Falamazeer

Security stealing traitor gear for themselves you say?
Well I can't say for others, I don't personally use tator tot gear because someone might mistake me for said tator tot, but I do see what you mean.

Better solution, put a deconstructive analyzer thingy-mabob in security, that way security has ...

Falamazeer

This is how every thread with security in the title will go, from now until the end of time.

Falamazeer

Security sucks to play because the default assumption for why you do anything is because you're a valid hunting salt seeking piece of shit who cannot possibly be motivated by anything more than the most basic of primitive animal insticts to hold down the smallest monkey and fart on him.

Go play sec ...

Falamazeer

first reply seems like a good idea if i understand it right, like, after you did the assistant/librarian crud, you'd have to cargo tech a few rounds to unlock QM too.
How do you resolve the captaincy? or the HoP-captain line in general?
AI as well, How would you unlock borg? to then unlock AI?

In ...

Falamazeer

I've worked every day since haloween (Including it) twelve hour shifts except one.

I've got blisters on my blisters but I got a week off for it, And it won't even hurt my paycheck, the way the pay cycle is cut, My time is all in. No overtime through the same witchcraft, but at least I get what ...

Falamazeer

There's really no room to wiggle here. Even if, for example, you ahelp to inform us you're mentoring a new player over a voice chat and you have no intention on revealing any IC information to them. Yes, we understand, and it doesn't matter. To protect the sanctity of the round all in-game ...

Falamazeer

tbh the fact that there are people bumrushing the chef to steal these things makes me feel pretty good about enforcing those limitations
They seem fair to me, but you should consider that nuke-disk one, that sounds hilarious.
And sharpening hats, gotta get dose bond referances in yo.
(clown masks ...

Falamazeer

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801
My idea for lidocaine got shot in the dick, but is all self surgery just bad in general?

How about using an ice block on yourself while targeting your mouth let's you perform the dentistry surgery to implant a pill?

And while we're talking ...

Falamazeer

Sligneris wrote: Just add a hand labeler so that I can at least tell if they fuck it up out of ignorance or because they feel like being selfish fucks.

This seems reasonable and fair.

Falamazeer

Security needs to focus less on antaghunting and, oh I don't know, try to counter the new way that engineering fucked up Don't have access to engineering or any tools to counter the tesla, singuloth or whatever they fucked up Make sure the spare ID and da disk are secure? Don't have access Deal ...

Falamazeer

There needs to be some sort of IC check/hurdle to teleporting people away into lava hell for petty crimes. I'd even seen the detective using the computer. Shiny new toy, yeah it's excessive for petty crimes, but like I said, maybe it shouldn't be lava-hell, there are fixes here

If they're worth ...

Falamazeer

Balance reasons, officer probably won't go to the trouble of gulaging and they'll just give them a normal sentence.
Why is that balance?

Gulag is the middle ground between perma and timers, the reality is as a result of this some will end up in perma instead, and some will get timed cells instead ...

Falamazeer

Why is it somehow better for the much more safe and expedient option to be locked to higher access or otherwise limited numerically.

If you were to be going to the gulag either way, wouldn't you rather skip the booking time?

And by what logic is this, or limiting the teleporter our only options ...

Falamazeer

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/commit/99d00d1b5666010804b9b4a0b9fe7f5f3bb33449
Why kor? I thought you were a fan of the telegulag, Working off sentences and whatnot 'Can't AFK through a gulag sentence' you said.

If you make it so a security officer has to go through the warden, HoS or ...

Falamazeer

I'm talking bout you motherfuckers that be searching everyone at roundstart at the drop of the hat

The ones who go to quiet areas of the station at roundstart to try to catch some poor sap trying to use his uplink

the cube drone squares that are watching the health monitor for anyone losing blood ...

Falamazeer

Maybe suck it up and actually work on RnD?

Pretty much this, it's like the same people who as doctors will watch you bleed out on the medbay foyer, but dart you for breaking into the room with all the medkits.

Or bartenders having access to the cure to the disease running around but isn't ...

Falamazeer

Mate I love playing security, just think that sec should not be the ultimate validhunters.
Yeah me too, I never said ultimate, power wasn't in the topic until you brought it up, twice,

I'm just saying sec should be the antag-hunters, because that's the role in the game.
and making it not so ...

Falamazeer

Reyn wrote:
Reece wrote:Yeah, not 'make sure everyone is alive' because that's Medicals job, it should be 'make sure that no one is getting killed', Security is prevention and retaliation, not maintenance.
Thats what i meant. shitty wording on my end

Well no. that's the AIs job

But no, that does fix it.

Falamazeer

. I don't know where I was going with this but whatever
Neither do I. None of that has anything to do with what I was talking about, This has nothing to do with buffs or nerfs, nor anything to do with searches or security power. I feel like your cat walked over your keyboard halfway through your ...

Falamazeer

You of all people suggesting something to cater more to powergamers... What?
No, the game's about paranoia, there's no paranoia if you can do everything yourself and get all that super cool shit without having to throw yourself at the relative mercy (you're still conscious) of someone else once in ...

Falamazeer

everythingwrongwithsecurity.thepost
Says a greytide apologist.
How about challenging any single point rather than meme at me?
You obviously think hunting antags is bad, I disagree, and I used a wall and a half of text to explain multiple facets of my opinion, Can't you muster up a complete ...

Falamazeer

Sorry guys, I'm not gonna role-play as hollywood sugar glass, fit only to be dramatically burst through, as you leap through me, bursting me into millions of slow motion shards, while all your adoring fans oooh and ahhh at your robust skills.

Maybe you should play somewhere else then?
Why would ...

Falamazeer

oranges wrote:the fact that Atlanta Ned and Falamazeer think it's a good change honestly makes me think we should revert it.

Cute.

Well, you're a fruit. Nuff said.

Falamazeer

DemonFiren wrote:I've augged people in the past.
Of course, I've regularly gotten murdered when they offered to aug me.

Kinda the heart of the issue here.

we're all too jaded for the system not allowing self surgery.
Hell we're too jaded to put ourselves in anyones power even for super powers.

Falamazeer

I don't enjoy blob, I don't see the point. the rounds drag forever or they end too soon but either way big projects are worthless because either you have to keep the stalemate alive or you can let the station die, thus ending your big project anyways.

Meteor is pretty fun though, Still needs to be ...

Falamazeer

sec is not anti antag outside of rev or cult, please stop that meme.

Outside of rev or cult you're there to make the antags have a sense of paranoia as they attempt to achieve their objectives without getting caught, not to chase them all down and smash their heads in as you triumphantly ...

Falamazeer

Top priority, Making sure the station doesn't get nuked by nuke ops or,This almost happened, THE FUCKING CLOWN. That's not just a security job, that's a captain or acting captain job, which was you, you should have resolved this yourself by refusing, fighting if neccesarry, dying and ahelping that ...

Falamazeer

It's fair, and balancing, stunprods just became the new stungloves which were highly abused and imbalanced and unfair.

Being hard to hide by being very not compact makes it fair, nerfs are never taken well, But I stand behind the coder & maintainer who had the great big massive, clanking, luscious ...

Falamazeer

Just as the title suggests, you should be able to perform surgery on yourself if you have Lidocaine, Also, a bit should come from the mining vendor (at mid-high cost) to address the recent controversial legion soul nerf https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7790 Some should also be ...

Falamazeer

HoS mails in order and co-operates the RD under threat of arrest (for conflict of interest)

Easy, there and done.
I find it so adorable that some people think this is how security operates.

How do you think you'd respond to a HoS trying to strong arm the most devastatingly powerful department ...

Falamazeer

This is useless for its intended purpose, roboticists do not and will not strive to make something for security. This is just like adding more guns to science research, or ordering guns from cargo.
It only benefits the department itself, and pretending otherwise is inviting MORE powercreep.

Falamazeer

Remind me why people aren't being banned for breaking into the Kitchen just to steal whetstones (and probably fighting back against the chef for it)?
Because being a bit of a dick isn't punishable by death, and not every conflict comes pre-packaged with an admin to hold you hand through it. Dry ...

Falamazeer

If you're worried about them being stolen... take them and put them in your bag? Does no one do this? If anyone asks just say someone already came in and stole/used 'em.
Great idea, except some people line up at the kitchen like it's the HoP office at round start.
I did it once, Not my proudest ...

Falamazeer

Isn't that the entire point? Also please add some sort of tutorial for ash lizards fucking somewhere so people don't waste the medical supplies and destroy tendrils
Pretty much this, I'll stop fucking shit up when I know how shit works. Someone got mad at me for using part of a medkit I found and ...

Falamazeer

The last thing we need is for you to have another reason to meander into secure security areas.
The shades were never the point

Spoiler:

Falamazeer

Awesome Nsos, guess we know theterbs is still alive.

Falamazeer

Then players with broken keys are fucked
whaddya mean broken keys?
As in missing parts of a broken keyboard or are you referring to different styles of keyboard, cause I don't know any keyboards that don't have not one, but two sets of shift alt and cntrl.

I mean honestly, we already cater to ...

Falamazeer

so remove pull and examine and rotate, if those are gone cntrl-click and shift click will become the norm, then make alt-click rotate windows pipes and whatnot.

You could get rid of a lot of verbs then

Falamazeer

i dunno guys, I do see the potential for it to be an amazing thing, Give it enough time to stop being a laggy shitty piece of shit, and I'm thinking it could be a lot of fun to toy with.

BZ on the other hand is a shitty terrible rehash of a broken system of hallucinations where every new trippy ...

Falamazeer

Add Maintanance access to Scientists. Please.

Now that they have an actual reason to be there (strange objects), it feels awful to be locked out of maint by default.
That's a terrible excuse, I used to drop those off on the desk, and nobody bothered, except when they did and got nothing from it ...

Falamazeer

This is all doable with basically no coding experience and copy and pasting, you could easily apply most if not all of these changes
Yeppers that was what I was thinking, at least for grindable things, which I'm slowly building a list of new grindables, but I'm still working out how I might be ...

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