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scaredofshadows

There's no point in having head admins if the host keeps flexing their authority over them.

Under sos I felt less like a driving power and more like I was just his assistant. I was powerless in all cases where it actually mattered, as everything was either vetoe'd or dictated by the host. The ...

scaredofshadows

I still plan on being the technical host for as long as the community wants me to fill this role.

For the people who want me to be absent again, wish me good luck on the job interviews this week.

scaredofshadows

I'm resigning my adminship due to insurmountable disagreements about policy between scaredofshadows and myself. Thank you to my supporters, I hope I made the game better during my reign of terror.

I've handed over administrative power to the head admins. Right now it's just an0n3.

I'm pretty ...

scaredofshadows

TheTerbs should PM me if he wants to play on the servers again. I just don't want to see him fuck up his life any more than he already has.

scaredofshadows

SoS, why are you viewing everything as black and white? All of your posts seem to me like you think you're just being personally attacked. In your own mind, you do not take blame. You have not accredited blame to yourself once. You think you were just and that people are picking on you because you ...

scaredofshadows

When you blatantly disregard a headmin decision that you agreed to abide by, it's extremely objectionable. It comes off as "I'm the host so fuck you I don't have to follow rules". In addition, 99% of the "heat" in this situation is due to you being the one placing the jobban. If the ban had ...

scaredofshadows

If you truly believe that, why do you spend virtually every round deliberately fucking with security, stealing from them or otherwise making it difficult for them to do their jobs, which involve protecting the station?

I was slipping and tabling everyone. It was fun for a while, but seeing the ...

scaredofshadows

The rules have been clarified for a long time SoS

I agree. It has been clarified that security is held to a high standard.

, During a riot, lethal force has been an option

Yes, lethal force has been an option during a riot against rioters. The ban was placed because John Wolfe shot lethals ...

scaredofshadows

Giving yourself admin powers when you have been stripped of them.

Well, I'm the server host. I've re-adminned to place a single week jobban which was deserved. Is this really that objectionable?

If you do it without consent from headmins, then its not really fair on them at all considering, as ...

scaredofshadows

Not sure what your point is bro?

I got a cousin and a brother who plays.

Is revealing other keys that have used my IPs supposed to matter? most admins can tell you that I consistently warn ahead of time if we are going to play at the same time. I did it just today because I had one of them over ...

scaredofshadows

There is no selfless act here. If you are not supposed to have admin powers, then do not give yourself admin powers. All you did was make a bad situation worse. If it was another admin, then a headmin wouldve probably chimed in by now, rendered a verdict and closed the thread. But nope, it was SoS ...

scaredofshadows

Yeah, Which is why I don't play it very often anymore.

And it's not just about this one ban, you got like... five threads about you?

http://puu.sh/eT6g9/b13601f65c.png

Jesus fucking christ m8

And It's not like I kill as security, I can't remember my last murder.
I'm talking more about ...

scaredofshadows

It's stressful and hard, because at certain points, nothing you do is right.

No one is forcing you to play security. You also don't see all the times we let security murdering people go unpunished. I can't give you exact, written in stone guidelines for when it's okay to murder people as security ...

scaredofshadows

There is no selfless act here. If you are not supposed to have admin powers, then do not give yourself admin powers. All you did was make a bad situation worse. If it was another admin, then a headmin wouldve probably chimed in by now, rendered a verdict and closed the thread. But nope, it was SoS ...

scaredofshadows

Well, It may not have been rioting, there was definitely looting.

SoS, you are arguing that the crime was shooting at a medbay guy trying to clone people, But isn't it fair if those people were not supposed to be cloned?
And he says he told him to stop.

Also, the whole "didn't want anyone else to ...

scaredofshadows

And what about the fact that ScaredofShadows gave himself admin powers again to enact a ban against a person he was personally dealing with IC? Something I feel should be adressed as well.

Here's what I did and happened to me during the round. I wet some floor tiles, was arrested by John Wolfe ...

scaredofshadows

I'll go back on topic then. I'll quote the rules on this.

In the scenario above, people were rushing into the brig. Multiple people, both in this thread and in game, have stated this.

And at least one of them were killed for it. The ban was not placed for this reason.

We can argue ...

scaredofshadows

We'll be having a roundtable discussion on teamspeak tonight to discuss events and address recent issues. I want to try to keep this to no more than 30 minutes of official business.

When: Tonight, January 24th at 6pm EST.
Where: teamspeak courtesy of MSO - ts.tgstation13.org.
Who: All are invited ...

scaredofshadows

-snip-

People running into the Brig, and allegedly looting the armoury, is a clear cut case of rioting, or at the very least major trespass and a myriad of other crimes more than worth of a permanent sentence.

The only person actually 'storming the armory' was Jack Steiner and he got killed for ...

scaredofshadows

Security players are not admins, we don't have the ability to instantly know the intent of anyone.

You say the OP is Shitcurity for firing at people randomly but you fail to realise that not only are Officers allowed to use lethal force against a crowd of rioting people, but also these people were ...

scaredofshadows

Peetrss wrote:And I will only admit I was at fault is if a punishment is given to Sos that will actualy change his greytide mentality and his one style of play which is just slipping and tabling people.

I guess since you won't change your shitcurity mentality, you will serve the rest of your week sec jobban.

scaredofshadows

I was not involved but per An0n3's rule I want to highlight this section of security policy (which I realize is its own can of worms, but this is how policy reads as it currently stands):

Mob-mentality / "Shitlers" / "Graytide"
If a mob of crew members swarms the brig, you are free to use lethal ...

scaredofshadows

This is what happened in the round from my perspective.

I wet a few floor tiles (not even pushing or tabling) and got brigged for 5 minutes. John Wolfe was such shitcurity that the entire station was trying to screw with him. After my timer expires, I run around south of the bridge through a hole ...

scaredofshadows

Unknown in a gas mask running around? I'd slip and search him myself even if I wasn't security. That's like prime "this guy is clearly up to no good" material. Hardly even a search at that point.

I suppose this is true.

I was wrong to adminPM Amelius. There's no bans or notes, so there's nothing ...

scaredofshadows

Sorry if I riled you up, that was not my intention.

I will keep the targetted search and security constraints in mind.

scaredofshadows

No bans, jobbans or notes were applied.

You were asked to not randomly search people under code blue.

Yes, I have the ability to adminPM you out of the blue. No, we're not going to have another rousing round of 'dehost scaredy' whenever someone gets their butt frosted over being adminPMed.

What ...

scaredofshadows

If a player interferes with a traitor being arrested, and enabling them to escape they get BWOINK'd.

A trailmin was temporarily deadminned because he spawned a stamp in order to give himself an in game advantage.

How do we deadmin the host? You can't just go "this guys being shitty, lets fuck ...

scaredofshadows

I'm guilty of the griffing charges.

However, I am contesting the accusations of abuse of power. It seems that my methods are not appreciated by the valid hunting, 'gotta win' security players.

I will be evaluating security policies and applying jobbans and server bans instead of gently griffing ...

scaredofshadows

The ban has been edited to 8 years due to your statement that you are 10 years old. It will not be overturned.

scaredofshadows

All of the jobbans expire on December 30th. They were not intended to be permanent jobbans.

EDIT: you killed 2 rev-heads and 2 heads of staff during a rev round by dragging the supermatter shard back onto the station from space. You wound up killing around a dozen people in the explosion. There was ...

scaredofshadows

Since the last time you played, we've banned ERP. Some of the things you've done in the past while not technically ERP would be creepy enough to net you a ban.

Can you handle playing without emoting rubbing your butt on things or other stupid shit?

scaredofshadows

I'm giving the playerbase the power to determine my future involvement with server policy.

If I'm voted out of a policymaking position, I will handoff all policy decisions to the three head admins.

scaredofshadows

AnonymousNow wrote:deliberately anti-social, powergamey, kill-counting behaviour will get you out by the ear and on your arse. A little extension to rule 1. That's all.

That was exactly the wording and intent of this policy.

scaredofshadows

The policy has been repealed.

scaredofshadows

We'll be having a townhall meeting on Friday, December 19th at 6pm EST. Venue is still being sorted out.

scaredofshadows

We had an example of this policy being applied today.

A traitor with objectives to assassinate an atmos tech and escape alive spent the round cremating people who were not their target. The victims weren't rushing to the chapel to stop the cremations, they were simply running around in the halls ...

scaredofshadows

It might be better for you if you played a week as a non-antag, then we can discuss removing it.

scaredofshadows

miggles wrote:>summon guns is no longer a murderfest
holy shit sos i thought you were cool i guess i was wrong

You can take the attitude and insert it up your ass. I've seen this kind of thing happen for too long and taken comments like this in stride for far too long.

scaredofshadows

Specifically exempt from this policy are nuke ops in nuclear emergency rounds. Their goal is to destroy the entire station and mass murder is expected.

This is merely the first of a multitude of clarifications that will likely be necessary.

scaredofshadows

EDIT: After discussing things with the head admins, there's no point in having a policy that 2/3rd of the playerbase don't want and all three head admins don't support. Consder this officially repealed. I believe there's only one actual antag ban in place under this policy and I will go remove it ...

scaredofshadows

Honkmaster Sly says, "You're a fuccboi now." Reply PM from-Slyhidden/(Honkmaster Sly): So I robusted him and made him a subby little bitch.

Calling someone a 'fuccboi' and straightjacketing them isn't banworthy by itself. There would have to be another element to make it cross the line into ...

scaredofshadows

Consider this your message. You're banned. You're not going to be unbanned.

scaredofshadows

While watching someone get raped in the brig, you had this to say

[23:34:27]SAY: Indrick Boreale/Masterchief567 : why dont you take that fine pussy?

[23:38:29]SAY: Indrick Boreale/Masterchief567 : I am finished with this whore, let me out.

scaredofshadows

This permanent ban will not be overturned and I won't allow an appeal.

You should find a different server to play on, we don't want this behavior on /tg/station.

scaredofshadows

Jordie0608 wrote:Are those statistics for both game servers combined?

Yes, the graphs show all traffic in and out of both of the servers combined.

scaredofshadows

Not a ton. Latency is much more important for small amounts of data (e.g. game traffic to and from players and the server).

scaredofshadows

UtterNewbie wrote:
scaredofshadows wrote:just use your head as a security.
It is unbelievable how out of touch you are.

Explain. How is it out of touch to require that you refrain from lasering an obviously non-hostile chaplain to death in a nuke op round?

scaredofshadows

SoS if even you can't see that this was a bad ban or even take the effort to understand the situation, then I don't care anymore and won't repeat myself.

I only got back after my previous quit because elections looked promising, nothing changed. In fact it's only worse. Go ahead and extend the ban ...

scaredofshadows

I honestly thought I shot him only once or twice because he fell down so quick.

As HG linked, we're allowed to use lethal force to subdue a target. Fact is I stopped once he fell down and tried to revive him once he was no longer a threat and manage to get to him. He chose to die from what I ...

scaredofshadows

Why not just adminhelp about the 2 afk ops and have them replaced?

This would be the best thing to do. We can easily have another player 'synced' into the AFK nuke ops.

It would have been best to revive the dead op and let things roll (as long as they don't go back to teamkilling). If lumipharon ...

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