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BrolyButterfingers

I have been told repeatedly and by multiple Manuel admins that slur usage makes people valid, and that retard is a slur.

Could you name the admins in question? If you have been misled by any of us in the past, that takes some culpability away from you and into our hands. I am happy to sort ...

BrolyButterfingers

Its silly to expect us to play all the roles. I'd have to roll for antag, ew. Whenever a heretic question pops up I just ask someone, it's fine.

I definitely don't expect admins to play all the roles, but if there was one role that I'd expect admins needed to be familiar with compared to any ...

BrolyButterfingers

I've always made it clear to Bmon that I dislike their playstyle. However, I've been very happy with their tenure as trial admin, with the one exception that they have next to zero AI playtime and lack a lot of understanding with respect to laws/threats, and I had one particularly rough ticket ...

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If it pisses off an admin enough and they think you're gaining some tangible benefit from persistent across-shift friendships, yeah for sure it's against the rules. It's not even an MRP thing, LRP cliques occasionally get busted for this sort of grouping as well, but it caused less issues ...

BrolyButterfingers

I don't see an issue with it, I just don't know if we should have any kind of spicy paintings at all.

I don't remember what our decision was on erotic content in library books, but I think this should mirror that, for the most part. If I could personally choose, I don't think I'd permit anything ...

BrolyButterfingers

Archie700 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 11:58 pm There are also other ways to get organs that don't require killing players (mutating and killing monkeys, stealing bodies from morgue)

Why the fuck am I gonna do that when there's free real estate right there

BrolyButterfingers

That was a player who was ultimately banned for MY ACTIONS because of their note history. They were not particularly irresponsible, I gamed it hard as FUCK with passive healing, a modsuit I stole and an uplink to buy tools, and then spread the chaos as hard as I could as an antag, and Maia bit the ...

BrolyButterfingers

Notes are logging tools and learning opportunities for admins and players, nothing else. People go overboard with being upset at their notes and people start to view them as punishments when they are not. Players do however choose to make notes punishments when they're given a chance to learn from ...

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Seems a CE flooding would make sense but IMO only if the other heads are dead along with sec. If sec and the other heads are long gone I’d think you can start massively nuking parts of the station to oppose the rev threat.

I also got noted for giving the AI the lawset "prevent revolutionary ...

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I've tried to N2O flood as chief engineer a few times on the clear losing end of a revolution so that I can try to get to an escape route. Admins have almost universally looked down on me/given me shit for it. Feels bad.

It always feels weird when I'm playing, like, Chief Engineer and I'm expected ...

BrolyButterfingers

I will say: I absolutely LOVE AIs being firmly neutral, law-aligned entities. I would hate to see that disappear. I really do enjoy the kind of super oppressive AI that reads their way into light antagonism on untested lawsets, as long as it's done well.

BrolyButterfingers

If it's department-related and the prisoner seems into it OOC go nuts. Don't hand out prisoners to assistants. Probably be a little suspicious about it as the warden if it's not a scientist asking.

BrolyButterfingers

Just use expiring notes more often.

I'm struggling to express this. Admins get to see everything. As it stands, an admin can see expired notes. I think this is good (but y'know I'm biased cause I'm an admin)

The important thing is admins judging. We should be more encouraged not to give ...

BrolyButterfingers

Just use expiring notes more often.

I'm struggling to express this. Admins get to see everything. As it stands, an admin can see expired notes. I think this is good (but y'know I'm biased cause I'm an admin)

The important thing is admins judging. We should be more encouraged not to give much ...

BrolyButterfingers

Just use expiring notes more often.

BrolyButterfingers

Anybody who disagrees that notes are a punishment need only look at this thread https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=33374&p=665448 to see that a person copped a FOUR DAY BAN for an antagonist breaking out of a plasma prison and starting a fire that damaged nothing and injured nobody ...

BrolyButterfingers

If you get rid of the spook doot horn I will be very sad and it's pretty much the last fun thing left in maintenance

BrolyButterfingers

Stop removing all the stuff I find fun

Whenever I find it I just ask if people want to become a boner

Also turning someone into a skeleton without their consent should just be assault like anything else

That said, rounds are like 60 minutes long, I don't really care if how mad you are that your ...

BrolyButterfingers

I just thought of another one. Nightmares plasma flooding, nightmares changing the AI laws to antimov... What else can a nightmare do that runs counter to their goals as being a spooky deadly monster?

Recently I haven't seen any of that from a nightmare, it has all be flavorful. Maybe players are ...

BrolyButterfingers

I'll be real:

This area of policy seems so edge-case that I don't see it needing its own ruling. This could probably be addressed using RP rule 1 or rule 8 or just a kick in the ass to do a more interesting bit without a specific ruling than trying to define an extremely edge-case interaction of ...

BrolyButterfingers

IC objectives are usually "go do X minor thing that effects absolutely nobody" or "round remove one guy silently". I don't know why they even exist on MRP.

On the other hand, if IC justifications were a requirement for why players/characters choose to do what they do, antagonist or not, that ...

BrolyButterfingers

So what about players like me that don't even read their objectives when they roll traitor

Because I don't give a shit about my objectives whatsoever, I use my antag roll purely to Cause Problems On Purpose. I've never ascended as heretic, I've never even TRIED, I just use it to get the abilities I ...

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BrolyButterfingers

I will say this for everyone reading:

I had two options as an antagonist here. I could have deconstructed one tile to the left, flooding departures with plasma as I escaped the chamber or I could have deconstructed one tile to the right, safely into space. I had a hardsuit, and I had internals. I ...

BrolyButterfingers

> It's worth noting that, historically, players are responsible for the projects they choose to create. If you make a burn mix chamber somewhere and someone else lets out the plasma, it's also on you for building something dangerous in a public place.

The perverse incentives created here for antags ...

BrolyButterfingers

Also for reference: from what I saw, this was the total size of the fire at its absolute largest (until after the shuttle left, dunno if it reignited at that point)

It only made it onto the shuttle because I, as an antag, was actively and intentionally walking the spread into the shuttle to try to ...

BrolyButterfingers

> To reiterate from our ticket, you are responsible for your public projects

What meaningful damage was caused that they are responsible for? Nobody died and nothing important was broken. From what I could tell they were responsible for maybe a light fixture and a third of an airlock door until the ...

BrolyButterfingers

I'll pipe up and say that yeah, I talked to Maia and I think this ban is completely ridiculous. I'd even go so far as to say that this ban borders on spiteful, and I told Maia to consider an admin complaint based on the outcome of this thread. I was a traitor, they were my target, I spent pretty ...

BrolyButterfingers

I can tolerate that I guess.

There are a fair number of people I talked to who have been pushing me to request a full removal regardless and to be honest while I generally feel that way as well I don't personally have the energy to do that; I'm alright with this revised note as the final outcome ...

BrolyButterfingers

Uhh, probably something like "Player was approached after shouting unprompted non-rulebreaking obscenities as a split personality. Explained they had a medical condition and that it was an infrequent but involuntary occurrence. While initially judged as degrading to the roleplay environment, an ...

BrolyButterfingers

Someone pointed out to me on Discord:

A future reading of the note could be interpreted as me having engaged in larger rulebreaks and then using my medical condition as a defense; I think some more exculpatory language clarifying that it was specifically just random swearing might be necessary so ...

BrolyButterfingers

Okay I don't have any more questions yet, but I have decided to take a new approach. After the posting of this appeal behind the scenes the admin team has debated this topic for quite a few hours. It's quite literally a civil war for lack of a better term. On one side we have what I'm going to ...

BrolyButterfingers

According to an admin in the peanut thread I apparently don't even do this nearly as much as I thought I did; they said 6 or 7 times since the start of 2022, though they probably missed a variant or two so maybe a dozen times this year? Maybe a touch more than that? Usually at the start of a round ...

BrolyButterfingers

Additionally I do have a question:

What is the trigger for this tic?

Is it hearing "Welcome to the station crew, enjoy your stay"? If so that confuses me, the reason why this came to my attention at all was because you took over another player as a split personality and the language you used ...

BrolyButterfingers

Additionally I do have a question:

What is the trigger for this tic?

Is it hearing "Welcome to the station crew, enjoy your stay"? If so that confuses me, the reason why this came to my attention at all was because you took over another player as a split personality and the language you used ...

BrolyButterfingers

I'm going to tackle this in serveral parts.

The first most pressing point I have to make is notes are not, nor will ever be, directly a punishment. Notes are utalized for several things, mostly to give other admins a context on your game history while they are investigating you. However we also ...

BrolyButterfingers

I was told to jury-rig the ban template for this, so apologies if that doesn't work out well

BYOND account: DurrHurrDurrHurr

Character name: Broly Butterfingers

Ban type: Note

Ban length: N/A

Ban reason: (MRP) Was asked to tone back using language like "IT'S TIME TO SHIT AND PISS", claimed ...

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